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On April 11 2011 09:39 zulu_nation8 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:02 JWD wrote:On April 11 2011 08:53 zulu_nation8 wrote:
I like Florine a lot better than The Magic Place, never got into Burial. you might really like him zulu. start out with Untrue ("Archangel" is what got me hooked). I got Untrue when it first came out but it sounded a bit repetitive so I lost interest. Since then I've never been able to get into dubstep or whatever his genre is called. On the topic of instrumentals I'm really enjoying the Nicolas Jaar album. It's surprisingly intricate.
ah yeah, I'll check him out. Thanks for the recommendation. Untrue took a while to grow on me and when I first listened I did find it repetitive/pretty homogenous, so maybe give it another shot
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On April 11 2011 09:19 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:11 WinByDefault wrote:
Wait, so you shouldnt use "rape" because it is a heinous crime and might offend some people, but acceptable alternatives are "murder", "kill" and "massacre"?
If you don't think that the word "rape" should be used, then ok, but you kind of contradict your justifacation when you say that its perfectly acceptable to use those other words.
dang, I was waiting for this one. yes, that rape is a heinous crime is one part of the reason it's probably uncouth to use it to describe a SC game. but maybe it was a mistake to mention that reason, because now you've fixated on it as the only or primary reason. It's obviously not. "rape" is differentiable from "murder" etc. because (1) it has nothing to do with what's actually happening in the game (2) outside a select club, it's not accepted to mean "trounce" or "beat convincingly" and (3) it implicates one sex as victim. (come to think of it, your same point about "kill" and "murder" could also be made about "beat". there's clearly more going on here.)
In response to your points:
(1) You're right, but does that mean its unnacceptable to use "kill" in relation to a video game without violence like a sports game, or even in an actual sport.
(2) Actually, I disagree with you on this one. All my friends, be they male, female, gamers or non-gamers would understand what I ment by "rape" if I used it in this context.
(3) Guys can be raped too. Yes, it is mostly girls, but don't ignore that guys can be raped too if you are trying to teach people to be sensitive.
Also the same cannont besaid of 'beat'. It is not a heinous crime.
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Class, though while I greatly admire the video with Mr Martin, I'm not sold on the vibrant socks with such a short trouser leg. You lose the flash of colour and it becomes somewhat more garish, the white works rather better.
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On April 11 2011 09:42 WinByDefault wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:19 JWD wrote:On April 11 2011 09:11 WinByDefault wrote:
Wait, so you shouldnt use "rape" because it is a heinous crime and might offend some people, but acceptable alternatives are "murder", "kill" and "massacre"?
If you don't think that the word "rape" should be used, then ok, but you kind of contradict your justifacation when you say that its perfectly acceptable to use those other words.
dang, I was waiting for this one. yes, that rape is a heinous crime is one part of the reason it's probably uncouth to use it to describe a SC game. but maybe it was a mistake to mention that reason, because now you've fixated on it as the only or primary reason. It's obviously not. "rape" is differentiable from "murder" etc. because (1) it has nothing to do with what's actually happening in the game (2) outside a select club, it's not accepted to mean "trounce" or "beat convincingly" and (3) it implicates one sex as victim. (come to think of it, your same point about "kill" and "murder" could also be made about "beat". there's clearly more going on here.) In response to your points: (1) You're right, but does that mean its unnacceptable to use "kill" in relation to a video game without violence like a sports game, or even in an actual sport. (2) Actually, I disagree with you on this one. All my friends, be they male, female, gamers or non-gamers would understand what I ment by "rape" if I used it in this context. (3) Guys can be raped too. Yes, it is mostly girls, but don't ignore that guys can be raped too if you are trying to teach people to be sensitive.
(2) I didn't say or suggest they would not understand. I said "not accepted to mean"; as in "beat convincingly" is not an accepted meaning of "rape" among most people.
(3) sure. But the implication (what the word "rape" is generally understood to imply, absent any clarification) is a male perpetrator and female victim.
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On April 11 2011 09:47 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:42 WinByDefault wrote:On April 11 2011 09:19 JWD wrote:On April 11 2011 09:11 WinByDefault wrote:
Wait, so you shouldnt use "rape" because it is a heinous crime and might offend some people, but acceptable alternatives are "murder", "kill" and "massacre"?
If you don't think that the word "rape" should be used, then ok, but you kind of contradict your justifacation when you say that its perfectly acceptable to use those other words.
dang, I was waiting for this one. yes, that rape is a heinous crime is one part of the reason it's probably uncouth to use it to describe a SC game. but maybe it was a mistake to mention that reason, because now you've fixated on it as the only or primary reason. It's obviously not. "rape" is differentiable from "murder" etc. because (1) it has nothing to do with what's actually happening in the game (2) outside a select club, it's not accepted to mean "trounce" or "beat convincingly" and (3) it implicates one sex as victim. (come to think of it, your same point about "kill" and "murder" could also be made about "beat". there's clearly more going on here.) In response to your points: (1) You're right, but does that mean its unnacceptable to use "kill" in relation to a video game without violence like a sports game, or even in an actual sport. (2) Actually, I disagree with you on this one. All my friends, be they male, female, gamers or non-gamers would understand what I ment by "rape" if I used it in this context. (3) Guys can be raped too. Yes, it is mostly girls, but don't ignore that guys can be raped too if you are trying to teach people to be sensitive. (2) I didn't say or suggest they would not understand. I said "not accepted to mean"; as in "beat convincingly" is not an accepted meaning of "rape" among most people. (3) sure. But the implication (what the word "rape" is generally understood to imply, absent any clarification) is a male perpetrator and female victim.
(2) Actually, I think they would accept it, they would find it crude, but wouldn't be offended. And it's not just gamers that use the term rape.
(3) Fair enough, but if I was to say to my friend that I raped them, then I mean and will often follow up with a description of me physically raping them (male-male). Now I do not think that that would be an appropriate way to post on teamliquid or any pulic furom, but all I'm trying to say is that when I use it, it has nothing to do with gender.
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On April 11 2011 09:47 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 09:42 WinByDefault wrote:On April 11 2011 09:19 JWD wrote:On April 11 2011 09:11 WinByDefault wrote:
Wait, so you shouldnt use "rape" because it is a heinous crime and might offend some people, but acceptable alternatives are "murder", "kill" and "massacre"?
If you don't think that the word "rape" should be used, then ok, but you kind of contradict your justifacation when you say that its perfectly acceptable to use those other words.
dang, I was waiting for this one. yes, that rape is a heinous crime is one part of the reason it's probably uncouth to use it to describe a SC game. but maybe it was a mistake to mention that reason, because now you've fixated on it as the only or primary reason. It's obviously not. "rape" is differentiable from "murder" etc. because (1) it has nothing to do with what's actually happening in the game (2) outside a select club, it's not accepted to mean "trounce" or "beat convincingly" and (3) it implicates one sex as victim. (come to think of it, your same point about "kill" and "murder" could also be made about "beat". there's clearly more going on here.) In response to your points: (1) You're right, but does that mean its unnacceptable to use "kill" in relation to a video game without violence like a sports game, or even in an actual sport. (2) Actually, I disagree with you on this one. All my friends, be they male, female, gamers or non-gamers would understand what I ment by "rape" if I used it in this context. (3) Guys can be raped too. Yes, it is mostly girls, but don't ignore that guys can be raped too if you are trying to teach people to be sensitive. (2) I didn't say or suggest they would not understand. I said "not accepted to mean"; as in "beat convincingly" is not an accepted meaning of "rape" among most people. (3) sure. But the implication (what the word "rape" is generally understood to imply, absent any clarification) is a male perpetrator and female victim.
I think you also need to campaign to free the word "rape" of it's gender-specificity, while you're at it. It's current use marginalizes male victims of rape, as well as creates a hostile environment towards men by portraying them as the sole gender responsible for the perpetration of heinous sex acts.
Fight the good fight, JWD!
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I like how you have an amazing video of Saturn followed by "Jelly Wobbler".
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I swear you must live no less than five simultaneous lives to have such varied and specific interests. Good read as always!
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awesome as always 
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On April 11 2011 07:11 iNcontroL wrote:If patrick bateman had a blog this is what it would look like 
God damn, i read all these blogs in that voice and i was about to make a comment like this. lol
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Bookmarked this one because at some point in my life I will probably have to dress sharp. 
See also: my last.fm (let's b friends?)
Friended! I've said this before, but the team liquid last.fm group is a sad and lonely place.
It irks me that women can't just be ordinary people around gamer-centric sites like team liquid, but I'm unsure what to do about it other than not participate in the cat-calls and report particularly egregious posts. Keep fighting the good fight, JWD.
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This makes my J. Crew collection feel too casual. Now, I'm just learning to make the right purchases.
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Some awesome videos, especially the puberty one.
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EDIT: nvm, wikipedia lied to me
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And what still blows my mind is that Kate Upton is only 18 years old.
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On April 11 2011 07:42 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2011 07:30 arcfyr wrote:
Most of the internet suffers from a terrible hostility towards women and just because it exists doesn't in any way make it okay. too true. threads involving women here are disgusting, and this is a good forum
On April 11 2011 07:45 Contagious wrote:
kate upton = boner
Exactly
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"phantom of the floppera" - Isn't that Toccata and The Fugue by J.S. Bach?
Epic as always JWD!
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you should take off "own" as well from that list if your so bent on removing words on the internet that target a selective crowd.
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thank you so much for calling TL out on the aggressive masculinity and rape culture. i didn't think anyone else cared (though of course it exists most places on the internet)
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