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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 22:10:51
April 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#1
I've been wary of having any expectations for NASL, I'm all for hoping it goes well and that the e-sports scene expands, but i have my doubts.
Ignoring the whole voting for players and not just having an open format problems that i and so many others have with the current outlook, it's looking alright.
Now my first and foremost question: whether it would be worth paying for. I had the same dilemma with gom before eventually spending on access to the paying user features, including the discounted old seasons. While that was a cut out of my budget, I currently consider it entirely worth it. The thing is, if I cut into my budget (and bandwidth) for NASL as well, well that was money i could have used on other things, when i already have gom access.
On bandwidth too, most of the qualities available on NASL according to what i heard a while back sounded too good for my dodgy Australian broadband (both speeds and download limits).
I did check out the payments for NASL page, and i'd have to borrow a credit card and pay a friend back or something, because it doesn't accept paypal, which is my only means to pay online myself
On-top of all this, i don't even watch MLG as is (and im not sure why, i just don't); so im curious, what do you guys think?
Edit: oh sweet; I'm a lurker now!

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apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
April 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#2
I really don't think that MLG can be compared to NASL, because imo, MLG were definitely not prepared.

as for NASL, since it will be streamed on jtv, I'm most likely assuming that it will be also available on 720p and lower res for those who purchased season pass, because I can't see myself streaming at 1080p - else it'll be too laggy. Another reason why I purchased season pass is because there's absolutely no way that I'm going to be watching every single game, every single day. Specially on weekends. so VODs are definitely a big plus
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d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
April 05 2011 22:22 GMT
#3
One more thing to add to the above poster - the games will be casted from replays AND prerecorded, so there's no major connectivity issues to deal with unless your internet is inherently bad.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Nidoa
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-05 22:43:41
April 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#4
afaik its prerecorded, but not casted from replays...

also, i dunno if he was referencing mlg's tech problems (cuz that's what stands out first to most people right now) rather than just the fact that he's never watched major NA tournaments, which wouldn't help judge the value of one NA tournament.

Personnally i'd just wait, maybe try and catch some games on the free LQ (if timezones permit), and mostly wait to see the reaction from the community. I mean, i think it lasts like 3 months, you got ample time to decide wether you want to pay or not, plus you'll get the vods for what you missed if you do miss something incredible.

So yeah, i'd probably wait.
echO [W]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1495 Posts
April 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#5
On April 06 2011 07:22 d3_crescentia wrote:
One more thing to add to the above poster - the games will be casted from replays AND prerecorded, so there's no major connectivity issues to deal with unless your internet is inherently bad.

The games will be casted live, so when X plays Y, Z casters will be watching and casting live. It just won't be broad casted live to ensure no one stream cheats. Also, they will take the casts and put it through post production work.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
April 05 2011 23:31 GMT
#6
Peter, its not casted from replays!
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
April 05 2011 23:36 GMT
#7
What I am still wondering is where all the money is coming from for the NASL. Did they ever explain that?
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 05 2011 23:43 GMT
#8
On April 06 2011 08:36 GreatFall wrote:
What I am still wondering is where all the money is coming from for the NASL. Did they ever explain that?

It is privately funded. They dont want to say any more than that for some reason.
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
April 05 2011 23:55 GMT
#9
On April 06 2011 08:43 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 08:36 GreatFall wrote:
What I am still wondering is where all the money is coming from for the NASL. Did they ever explain that?

It is privately funded. They dont want to say any more than that for some reason.


You know what would be brilliant? If there was actually no real funding but they made this such a huge event that they made the money during the tournament then paid off the winnings with that new found money. It would be a risky and bold move but it would be possible. I mean, how many private millionaires are running around throwing their money around like this? Personally, I smell something fishy. I trust Incontrol and all that; however, who knows who is pulling the strings behind the scenes.

I realize my thoughts are somewhat conspiracy theorist; however, when they refuse to tell you who donated almost half a million dollars and just say 'dont worry about it, it's some rich private fund', they are just asking for people to speculate and theorize what they want.

Like I said. I smell something fishy.
Inventor of the 'Burning Tide' technique to quickly getting Outmatched Crusher achivement :D
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 06 2011 01:52 GMT
#10
If I heard correctly, iNconroL said they are looking on allowing paypal payments for the stream. He isn't the almighty but he does hear a lot of things. For only $25 dollars I would say its safe to say with the NASL schedule you will be getting your moneys worth, if you've seen the schedule thats already put out.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
April 06 2011 01:58 GMT
#11
My only issue is how well the presentation will be. If it is good I will buy the pass.
Brood War forever!
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
April 06 2011 02:03 GMT
#12
On April 06 2011 10:58 Kralic wrote:
My only issue is how well the presentation will be. If it is good I will buy the pass.

That is a very good thing to consider. Currently I'm picturing it being like the EG master cups, if you are familiar with those. I'm just sad that iNcontroL won't be able to cast on Tuesdays as that is his game day.
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
April 06 2011 02:48 GMT
#13
On April 06 2011 08:55 GreatFall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2011 08:43 Mastermind wrote:
On April 06 2011 08:36 GreatFall wrote:
What I am still wondering is where all the money is coming from for the NASL. Did they ever explain that?

It is privately funded. They dont want to say any more than that for some reason.


You know what would be brilliant? If there was actually no real funding but they made this such a huge event that they made the money during the tournament then paid off the winnings with that new found money. It would be a risky and bold move but it would be possible. I mean, how many private millionaires are running around throwing their money around like this? Personally, I smell something fishy. I trust Incontrol and all that; however, who knows who is pulling the strings behind the scenes.

I realize my thoughts are somewhat conspiracy theorist; however, when they refuse to tell you who donated almost half a million dollars and just say 'dont worry about it, it's some rich private fund', they are just asking for people to speculate and theorize what they want.

Like I said. I smell something fishy.

The scenario you're describing is actually not brilliant. It would be illegal, because it would be a scam. I'm not saying that this is what NASL is doing, I'm sure they have money, I'm just clarifying that schemes like these are a short hop, skip, and jump from being sued. See: Ponzi scheme, Pyramid scheme, etc.
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