• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:05
CEST 00:05
KST 07:05
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon98Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Has online-only competition during the pandemic changed your enjoyment of pro SC2? How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament KSL Week #92
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Remastered crash fix suggestions Syncronization issues and can't find games a Announcement on the JEDI Ringing ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D The Casual Games of the Week Thread Small VOD Thread 2.0 BWCL Season 65 Announcement
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Virtual Romance, Real-Life C…
TrAiDoS
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6736 users

How do I enjoy sc2?

Blogs > TrainFX
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
March 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#1
I'm someone who came to sc2 from a different game, LoL/DoTa/HoN, and I was decent at the game but never really met the right people to get competitive. When I learned about sc2 I started at TL.net, not playing casually but looking at the game from a competitive perspective. Don't get me wrong I thought and still do think the game is awesome but I don't have fun while I'm playing, sure I have that moment of pure satisfaction when I win but it's not the same as truly enjoying playing. I don't know if it's because I just don't like playing sc2 because I had fun when I first started but the more and more I started to learn about the game and how complex it is I started to view it as a puzzle, something to be solved, and not necessarily something to be enjoyed. I really do love sc2 but playing it just wasn't fun for me anymore. I hope that someone out there has the right thing to say to me because I really want to play but every time I get inspired I get discouraged again so quickly. I need a change of perspective.

*****
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
March 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#2
switch races, take a month off. idk, i dont have fun either but i play because of the money involved
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
March 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#3
On March 24 2011 08:14 Fallen33 wrote:
switch races, take a month off. idk, i dont have fun either but i play because of the money involved


that is literally the worst reason to play sc2 lol
FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
March 23 2011 23:22 GMT
#4
It all really depends on why you are playing in the first place. If you are playing because you want to get to the professional level and make a living off of Stracraft 2 and you really want to get to that level there is several things you can do.

First off, you can take a short day or so break from playing seriously (ladder games, tournaments, stressful environments, etc.) and play custom games with friends or FFA games. Try playing some custom games on some of those wonky custom maps even.

Secondly, you can try changing your race temporarily to see if the new scenery gets your interest and excitement back into playing. It's hard for someone that plays random to ever get bored of repition.

Also you can always try watching some of the pro games and see if their extremely high level of play gets your brainstorming or excited to play as well. I know a lot of inspiration for me to play has come from watching top level games casted by HD or analyzed by people like Day9.


But if all else fails, try to find an outside motivation to fuel you. Play for a lost family member, friendm etc. Play for what and those you care about, even if your outside influences are completely unrelated to Starcraft 2.
I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 23 2011 23:25 GMT
#5
If you don't enjoy it, don't try and force yourself to do so, sit back, watch others do it for you(so to speak) and enjoy. Something I have been doing aswell for both Brood War and Starcraft 2.
WriterXiao8~~
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 23 2011 23:30 GMT
#6
I dunno, see if you enjoy team games with your friends. It's totally possible that you just don't like to play the game and that's 100% fine. I don't have fun playing moba games, I therefore don't play them, and my life is perfectly fine
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
March 23 2011 23:34 GMT
#7
All I do these days is watch "pro" streams. I don't want to play sc2 for the money, for some of you winning 5 grand at an MLG might seem like a lot but it's nothing to me. I play games because I'm a competitive person and I want to be the best at something. At first only watching streams was enough but it's not anymore.
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
March 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#8
wait isn't that your motivation for gaming then?

you said you like the competitiveness of sc2, but then you complained about it being like a puzzle. i just want you to clarify what sort of competition it is that you enjoy doing if not something like this: a challenge.
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
March 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#9

TrainFX:

All I do these days is watch "pro" streams. I don't want to play sc2 for the money, for some of you winning 5 grand at an MLG might seem like a lot but it's nothing to me. I play games because I'm a competitive person and I want to be the best at something. At first only watching streams was enough but it's not anymore


Who said anything about the MLG specifically? Plus GSL had an $80,000 1st place finish last season? Unless you are Bill Gates or Oprah that isn't too shabby to make off of 1 tournament.
I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
March 23 2011 23:42 GMT
#10
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.
BW for life !
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:51:21
March 23 2011 23:48 GMT
#11
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.

On March 24 2011 08:42 DorF wrote:
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.


Ehhh you won't be "rich" and the only people who will know you are other gamers. Plus, you're going to need several hours a day of playing to get anywhere near pro level. Just start playing, see if you like, and get to diamond or whatever before you start thinking about going pro.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 23 2011 23:54 GMT
#12
On March 24 2011 08:42 DorF wrote:
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.


Seriously? So you want Starcraft 2 to be your source of income, but you don't enjoy playing it?

Why don't you do something like find a stable normal job or go to school, you won't enjoy those either but you'll make a hell of a lot more money doing it.
wat
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
March 23 2011 23:55 GMT
#13
i don't understand where these people thinking sc2 is easy money is coming from... if you wanna make money get a job, its far easier, far safer, and in all probability you will make substantially more money than in sc2. Unless you are an already established player who can make substantial money coaching and/or streaming, I'm pretty sure that you would make just as much money if not more at mcdonalds or something.
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 00:06:50
March 23 2011 23:58 GMT
#14
On March 24 2011 08:48 Loanshark wrote:
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.



I'm not saying I wouldn't become a pro at sc2, money just wouldn't be my motivation. I tend to agree with you about the watching huge balls 1a into each other though, in TvP for example in a typical game if your the protoss your opening build is meant to stop the stim timing push while getting an expo and then in the midgame you get your collosus and attack the terran at which point the game usually ends and if it doesn't you get a third and make phoenix and then attack again, or get attcked depending on the state of the game. It just seems like there is so little room for what day9 would call "tactics", which in my opinion make the game fun, not seeing who has the better build/strategy.

edit:

execution of the build is important and sure micro is fun but when I watch games I don't get the impression that players are thinking, hmm what can I do to throw my opponent off and take an advantage. This isn't always true as I have seen some amazing things but most games just look formulaic.

Maybe that's what starcraft is, and I just got the wrong impression from watching bw matches because I don't understand that game as well.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 24 2011 00:31 GMT
#15
On March 24 2011 08:58 TrainFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 08:48 Loanshark wrote:
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.



I'm not saying I wouldn't become a pro at sc2, money just wouldn't be my motivation. I tend to agree with you about the watching huge balls 1a into each other though, in TvP for example in a typical game if your the protoss your opening build is meant to stop the stim timing push while getting an expo and then in the midgame you get your collosus and attack the terran at which point the game usually ends and if it doesn't you get a third and make phoenix and then attack again, or get attcked depending on the state of the game. It just seems like there is so little room for what day9 would call "tactics", which in my opinion make the game fun, not seeing who has the better build/strategy.

edit:

execution of the build is important and sure micro is fun but when I watch games I don't get the impression that players are thinking, hmm what can I do to throw my opponent off and take an advantage. This isn't always true as I have seen some amazing things but most games just look formulaic.

Maybe that's what starcraft is, and I just got the wrong impression from watching bw matches because I don't understand that game as well.


If you want to play starcraft and you hate these things.... bw
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
March 24 2011 00:33 GMT
#16
On March 24 2011 08:48 Loanshark wrote:
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 08:42 DorF wrote:
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.


Ehhh you won't be "rich" and the only people who will know you are other gamers. Plus, you're going to need several hours a day of playing to get anywhere near pro level. Just start playing, see if you like, and get to diamond or whatever before you start thinking about going pro.



idk this guy is swedish...
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
March 24 2011 01:14 GMT
#17
It's probably the most mechanically challenging game there is, so I'm constantly seeking to improve my hand speed. It gets more fun the better you are.


*o*
I get brain like a skull
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
March 24 2011 01:31 GMT
#18
On March 24 2011 10:14 jimmyjingle wrote:
It's probably the most mechanically challenging game there is, so I'm constantly seeking to improve my hand speed. It gets more fun the better you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZF87zRo22
*o*


ya...moon is actually pretty slow comparatively, in the razer apm video he said he only averages ~150 where as nada is going 350-400.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 24 2011 01:35 GMT
#19
When I get tired of sc2, I play BW on iccup.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9556 Posts
March 24 2011 01:47 GMT
#20
On March 24 2011 10:35 101toss wrote:
When I get tired of sc2, I play BW on iccup.

Same. It's weird, but playing sc2 made me enjoy bw even more...
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
22:00
Masters Cup #151
davetesta14
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 364
Nina 72
Nathanias 59
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 83
League of Legends
Doublelift3657
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3323
Other Games
summit1g11807
Liquid`RaSZi1759
shahzam495
B2W.Neo270
C9.Mang0161
Livibee148
XaKoH 113
Mew2King108
NeuroSwarm52
JuggernautJason36
ViBE21
SteadfastSC18
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1868
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki34
• blackmanpl 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie749
• Shiphtur121
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 56m
IntoTheTV X SOOP
12h 56m
RotterdaM Event
18h 11m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
GSL
1d 12h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
2 days
Spirit vs Mixu
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Shine vs Rush
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-16
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.