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How do I enjoy sc2?

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TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
March 23 2011 23:10 GMT
#1
I'm someone who came to sc2 from a different game, LoL/DoTa/HoN, and I was decent at the game but never really met the right people to get competitive. When I learned about sc2 I started at TL.net, not playing casually but looking at the game from a competitive perspective. Don't get me wrong I thought and still do think the game is awesome but I don't have fun while I'm playing, sure I have that moment of pure satisfaction when I win but it's not the same as truly enjoying playing. I don't know if it's because I just don't like playing sc2 because I had fun when I first started but the more and more I started to learn about the game and how complex it is I started to view it as a puzzle, something to be solved, and not necessarily something to be enjoyed. I really do love sc2 but playing it just wasn't fun for me anymore. I hope that someone out there has the right thing to say to me because I really want to play but every time I get inspired I get discouraged again so quickly. I need a change of perspective.

*****
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
March 23 2011 23:14 GMT
#2
switch races, take a month off. idk, i dont have fun either but i play because of the money involved
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
March 23 2011 23:19 GMT
#3
On March 24 2011 08:14 Fallen33 wrote:
switch races, take a month off. idk, i dont have fun either but i play because of the money involved


that is literally the worst reason to play sc2 lol
FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
March 23 2011 23:22 GMT
#4
It all really depends on why you are playing in the first place. If you are playing because you want to get to the professional level and make a living off of Stracraft 2 and you really want to get to that level there is several things you can do.

First off, you can take a short day or so break from playing seriously (ladder games, tournaments, stressful environments, etc.) and play custom games with friends or FFA games. Try playing some custom games on some of those wonky custom maps even.

Secondly, you can try changing your race temporarily to see if the new scenery gets your interest and excitement back into playing. It's hard for someone that plays random to ever get bored of repition.

Also you can always try watching some of the pro games and see if their extremely high level of play gets your brainstorming or excited to play as well. I know a lot of inspiration for me to play has come from watching top level games casted by HD or analyzed by people like Day9.


But if all else fails, try to find an outside motivation to fuel you. Play for a lost family member, friendm etc. Play for what and those you care about, even if your outside influences are completely unrelated to Starcraft 2.
I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 23 2011 23:25 GMT
#5
If you don't enjoy it, don't try and force yourself to do so, sit back, watch others do it for you(so to speak) and enjoy. Something I have been doing aswell for both Brood War and Starcraft 2.
WriterXiao8~~
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
March 23 2011 23:30 GMT
#6
I dunno, see if you enjoy team games with your friends. It's totally possible that you just don't like to play the game and that's 100% fine. I don't have fun playing moba games, I therefore don't play them, and my life is perfectly fine
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
March 23 2011 23:34 GMT
#7
All I do these days is watch "pro" streams. I don't want to play sc2 for the money, for some of you winning 5 grand at an MLG might seem like a lot but it's nothing to me. I play games because I'm a competitive person and I want to be the best at something. At first only watching streams was enough but it's not anymore.
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
March 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#8
wait isn't that your motivation for gaming then?

you said you like the competitiveness of sc2, but then you complained about it being like a puzzle. i just want you to clarify what sort of competition it is that you enjoy doing if not something like this: a challenge.
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
FODDER~
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States109 Posts
March 23 2011 23:38 GMT
#9

TrainFX:

All I do these days is watch "pro" streams. I don't want to play sc2 for the money, for some of you winning 5 grand at an MLG might seem like a lot but it's nothing to me. I play games because I'm a competitive person and I want to be the best at something. At first only watching streams was enough but it's not anymore


Who said anything about the MLG specifically? Plus GSL had an $80,000 1st place finish last season? Unless you are Bill Gates or Oprah that isn't too shabby to make off of 1 tournament.
I am a Diamond league Protoss player in need of any form of help that can be given. If you believe you can help please contact me. I really want to improve more than anything and just need a form of guidance and small push in the truely right direction.
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
March 23 2011 23:42 GMT
#10
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.
BW for life !
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-23 23:51:21
March 23 2011 23:48 GMT
#11
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.

On March 24 2011 08:42 DorF wrote:
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.


Ehhh you won't be "rich" and the only people who will know you are other gamers. Plus, you're going to need several hours a day of playing to get anywhere near pro level. Just start playing, see if you like, and get to diamond or whatever before you start thinking about going pro.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
March 23 2011 23:54 GMT
#12
On March 24 2011 08:42 DorF wrote:
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.


Seriously? So you want Starcraft 2 to be your source of income, but you don't enjoy playing it?

Why don't you do something like find a stable normal job or go to school, you won't enjoy those either but you'll make a hell of a lot more money doing it.
wat
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
March 23 2011 23:55 GMT
#13
i don't understand where these people thinking sc2 is easy money is coming from... if you wanna make money get a job, its far easier, far safer, and in all probability you will make substantially more money than in sc2. Unless you are an already established player who can make substantial money coaching and/or streaming, I'm pretty sure that you would make just as much money if not more at mcdonalds or something.
TrainFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States469 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 00:06:50
March 23 2011 23:58 GMT
#14
On March 24 2011 08:48 Loanshark wrote:
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.



I'm not saying I wouldn't become a pro at sc2, money just wouldn't be my motivation. I tend to agree with you about the watching huge balls 1a into each other though, in TvP for example in a typical game if your the protoss your opening build is meant to stop the stim timing push while getting an expo and then in the midgame you get your collosus and attack the terran at which point the game usually ends and if it doesn't you get a third and make phoenix and then attack again, or get attcked depending on the state of the game. It just seems like there is so little room for what day9 would call "tactics", which in my opinion make the game fun, not seeing who has the better build/strategy.

edit:

execution of the build is important and sure micro is fun but when I watch games I don't get the impression that players are thinking, hmm what can I do to throw my opponent off and take an advantage. This isn't always true as I have seen some amazing things but most games just look formulaic.

Maybe that's what starcraft is, and I just got the wrong impression from watching bw matches because I don't understand that game as well.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
March 24 2011 00:31 GMT
#15
On March 24 2011 08:58 TrainFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 08:48 Loanshark wrote:
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.



I'm not saying I wouldn't become a pro at sc2, money just wouldn't be my motivation. I tend to agree with you about the watching huge balls 1a into each other though, in TvP for example in a typical game if your the protoss your opening build is meant to stop the stim timing push while getting an expo and then in the midgame you get your collosus and attack the terran at which point the game usually ends and if it doesn't you get a third and make phoenix and then attack again, or get attcked depending on the state of the game. It just seems like there is so little room for what day9 would call "tactics", which in my opinion make the game fun, not seeing who has the better build/strategy.

edit:

execution of the build is important and sure micro is fun but when I watch games I don't get the impression that players are thinking, hmm what can I do to throw my opponent off and take an advantage. This isn't always true as I have seen some amazing things but most games just look formulaic.

Maybe that's what starcraft is, and I just got the wrong impression from watching bw matches because I don't understand that game as well.


If you want to play starcraft and you hate these things.... bw
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3128 Posts
March 24 2011 00:33 GMT
#16
On March 24 2011 08:48 Loanshark wrote:
If you don't like playing it, there's really no reason to continue. What do you gain by continuing? Nothing. You aren't trying to be pro (pretty smart decision at that), and you're going to waste your time watching huge balls 1a into each either.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 08:42 DorF wrote:
I will start to play sc2 when the summer comes and I have some free time , for money reasons.
Who doesn't want to be rich and famous !
I don't see much reason to play this game personally other than that actually.


Ehhh you won't be "rich" and the only people who will know you are other gamers. Plus, you're going to need several hours a day of playing to get anywhere near pro level. Just start playing, see if you like, and get to diamond or whatever before you start thinking about going pro.



idk this guy is swedish...
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
March 24 2011 01:14 GMT
#17
It's probably the most mechanically challenging game there is, so I'm constantly seeking to improve my hand speed. It gets more fun the better you are.


*o*
I get brain like a skull
Trowabarton756
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States870 Posts
March 24 2011 01:31 GMT
#18
On March 24 2011 10:14 jimmyjingle wrote:
It's probably the most mechanically challenging game there is, so I'm constantly seeking to improve my hand speed. It gets more fun the better you are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZF87zRo22
*o*


ya...moon is actually pretty slow comparatively, in the razer apm video he said he only averages ~150 where as nada is going 350-400.
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Trowabarton756
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
March 24 2011 01:35 GMT
#19
When I get tired of sc2, I play BW on iccup.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9504 Posts
March 24 2011 01:47 GMT
#20
On March 24 2011 10:35 101toss wrote:
When I get tired of sc2, I play BW on iccup.

Same. It's weird, but playing sc2 made me enjoy bw even more...
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