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Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 13 2011 07:20 GMT
#1
I am very torn that the moment. Lately I have started watching GSL as a friend from work sorta introduced me to it...and I gotta say it's pretty frigging awesome. I was so anti-SC2 initially and a hardcore BW fan...but now that SC2 is more developed it looks like it's shaping into a pretty good game.

Now I am tempted to actually buy the game and play it casual/competitively. However, this is a bit concerning for me because I have quit and come back to starcraft sooo many times...and now is another sort of turning point where I can choose to get into it or do something else.

I recently quit another hobby, so I am looking for a new one that is relatively social and getting some exercise in the process would be a bonus. Problem is that SC2 really doesn't provide any of this. I notice that I seem to get into starcraft when I am in these transitionary periods where I kinda just lost a previous hobby and am a bit bored...because starcraft in general is very easy to get into as you don't even need to leave your house.

The reason why I am a bit concerned is because, even though I am pretty sure I can control my levels of playing....overall...BW has been a pretty stressful experience with quite little rewards. I got into competitive BW in 06'...played on and off since then (though in the past 2 years I haven't played that much) and the only real benefit of that was calling myself "C-" which is pretty lame. Definitely can't put that on a resume or anything along those lines. I look back and think I should have done something more productive with my time. At the moment, I have a BIT of time to spare but not a ton. I go to university, I work part-time (actually I am in the process of quitting my job to get a new one, but I am pretty well always going to be working part-time), and I also DJ as a hobby so I am slightly concerned that if I would get into the game, it MIGHT eat up a bit too much of my time. I suppose that depends on my control levels, but I know that when I get into something (a hobby), I tend to REALLY get into it. Hard to say what would happen.

However, what attracts me to SC2 are a couple things. Firstly, more than likely I would be relatively high level pretty fast just purely from rts knowledge and mechanics (I'm thinking I could get to diamond/masters relatively fast). I played the beta as well so I am not completely new to playing SC2. I've also played at friend's houses so I am aware of the overall mechanics and how they are different from BW. So that's nice to know that just by starting a game, I am essentially not terrible at it (in comparison to random people who have no SC experience who just start playing). Secondly, I like how the mechanics are a bit easier. BW was very punishing in general; if I stopped playing for 1-3 weeks I would be extremely rusty and have to practice a lot in a short time span to compensate for it. I don't feel sc2 would be like that. The game definitely seems more user-friendly...which I actually like as I just want to play it casually, perhaps somewhat competitively but nothing extreme. Overall, just the ease of getting into the game is what attracts me to it, just based on my history with starcraft.

The alternative is that I find another social hobby. Clearly that sounds like the right answer, but that's also a good amount of work/effort to find a new hobby and group of people, compared to starcraft which I can ease into quit quickly. I am currently unsure.

Anyway, if anybody has any opinions on what they think of this situation, or if they are/have been in this situation, I'd like to hear them.

For reference, I am 20 years old, turning 21 in a month.

GriMeR
Profile Joined February 2010
United States148 Posts
March 13 2011 07:23 GMT
#2
well worth it.. it is social and it is fun.. and is and will be forever better than bw.. comming from a bw since i was 7
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Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 07:31:32
March 13 2011 07:26 GMT
#3
Save your $60. Gets boring after awhile, really. I guess teamplay is fun with friends, but 1v1? It really doesn't appeal to me.


On March 13 2011 16:23 veE wrote:
well worth it.. it is social and it is fun.. and is and will be forever better than bw.. comming from a bw since i was 7


As it stands, SC2 is nowhere even close to BW..
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
March 13 2011 07:27 GMT
#4
Your question is way too subjective. Literally every person's experience with the game is different. Only way to know for sure is to try.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 07:29:48
March 13 2011 07:28 GMT
#5
On March 13 2011 16:23 veE wrote:
well worth it.. it is social and it is fun.. and is and will be forever better than bw.. comming from a bw since i was 7


Well I wouldn't go that far lol.

On March 13 2011 16:26 Amnesia wrote:
Save your $60. Gets boring after awhile, really. I guess teamplay is fun with friends, but 1v1? It really doesn't appeal to me.


It would be more actually. Need to upgrade my comp too...maybe $200 max.

On March 13 2011 16:27 Zim23 wrote:
Your question is way too subjective. Literally every person's experience with the game is different. Only way to know for sure is to try.


Yeah I just want opinions/feel like chatting.
Combine
Profile Joined July 2010
United States812 Posts
March 13 2011 07:32 GMT
#6
On March 13 2011 16:26 Amnesia wrote:
Save your $60. Gets boring after awhile, really. I guess teamplay is fun with friends, but 1v1? It really doesn't appeal to me.

The games are actually getting more fun, for me at least. With everyone's play becoming more refined and bigger maps in the map pool. I'm having way more fun in games than I was a month ago.

It's subjective though. If your ok spending the money, I think you should get it.
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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
March 13 2011 07:34 GMT
#7
On March 13 2011 16:26 Amnesia wrote:
Save your $60. Gets boring after awhile, really. I guess teamplay is fun with friends, but 1v1? It really doesn't appeal to me.



SC2 is boring if you're bad at it/make it boring.

Fierce competition is never boring.
Lanaia is love.
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
March 13 2011 07:37 GMT
#8
Try out some sports or martial art or something if you want something social that can also give you some exercise. But there's nothing wrong with playing SC2 on the side if you want to. If you stay as a casual gamer, you probably won't put that much time into it.
MuTT
Profile Joined July 2010
United States398 Posts
March 13 2011 07:39 GMT
#9
Girls are a big enough hobby for anybody.
MC's strength: confidence weakness: over confidence
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 07:44:21
March 13 2011 07:41 GMT
#10
Meh. I still play SC2 with BW mechanics. I just dont want to let go
ionno its good to have but not good enough to get into it seriously
oh no way in hell is it worth over $250 lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 07:43:46
March 13 2011 07:41 GMT
#11
On March 13 2011 16:34 Zerokaiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 16:26 Amnesia wrote:
Save your $60. Gets boring after awhile, really. I guess teamplay is fun with friends, but 1v1? It really doesn't appeal to me.



SC2 is boring if you're bad at it/make it boring.

Fierce competition is never boring.


Before there was that Master League, I played quite a few games on my friend's account (he was Diamond) and I won most games without having full knowledge of the game (I still don't, rofl :D), then I got bored of it. :/

There is plenty of competition on ICCup and it is also quite challenging.
tbh I'd rather play at the C-/C level in BW.

@Zapdos_Smith: yeah, just invest in a better hobby if you're going to be forced to upgrade your computer. Or play on a friend's computer to get a better feel for the game? At the end of the day, it's your call.
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 13 2011 07:44 GMT
#12
i dont really understand the question

if you find it fun, go for it, nothing forces you to play. im also not sure why people seem to think enjoying bw and sc2 are mutually exclusive...
HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
March 13 2011 07:47 GMT
#13
As a C- BW player you will be instantly Masters in sc2.

And then you'll be able to say "I'm Masters." If calling yourself C- wasn't fulfilling, this won't be either.
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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 15:42:42
March 13 2011 07:50 GMT
#14
I don't really think its a smart idea to switch to SC2 at this point in time, because of the fact that there are 2 more expansions coming. Why not just wait till Lotv? If you truly want to switch at that point, then do it.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
March 13 2011 07:54 GMT
#15
I played Sc2 for a few months, it got boring pretty fast. Of course, chat channels are helping but BW is much more fun. Sc2... feels too... easy? Squishy? like toys?

I vote no.

ICCup is much more challenging, and not everything has been figured out/semi-figured out (hive-tech ZvZ erhem, + Show Spoiler [Stars v. FOX] +
roro v zero

adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 13 2011 07:59 GMT
#16
UMS alone makes the game worth it. THe campaign, everything the game has to offer is hours upon hours of entertainment

It's best if you have friends to play with it when you aren't trying the 1v1 ladder .

If you play other games ont he PC in general it would be advisory to upgrade it regardless. Seems like there's a lot of bias against SC2, like it was a poorly made game. It's awesome.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 13 2011 08:00 GMT
#17
On March 13 2011 16:59 adeezy wrote: Seems like there's a lot of bias against SC2, like it was a poorly made game. It's awesome.

its because of all the awkward antifans of sc2 :p
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 13 2011 08:05 GMT
#18
True eon, out of most games this game will get you the most hours per buck. In a good way too. The only thing I can think that's more cost efficient for hours is Pokemon thats only a specific niche lol
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 13 2011 08:09 GMT
#19
Adeezy i like how youre very pro SC2 but the UMS is still not the greatest. one of the main problem that make that part of SC2 lacking is the restricted interface. If we were able to play games with freewill, we would explore much more deeply.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 13 2011 08:11 GMT
#20
Yeah I don't like the interface limitations as well, but as for the positives, it's also very good. There's tons of very good games and it's easy to get into them, it's fast easy entertainment which is a good thing.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 13 2011 08:17 GMT
#21
not really tons but a good amount. Some of the more popular games are so bad (GreenTD is a good example. What the hell so boring)
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 13 2011 08:20 GMT
#22
If you don't want to play BW, then SC2 is the way to go. Even if it gets boring after a while, you'll probably get more hours of entertainment per dollar compared to any other game on the market, except for maybe Minecraft lol.

It might feel slightly watered down compared to BW, but it's still Starcraft nonetheless and is still a treat to play. Also, as people had said previously in the thread, you'd want to upgrade your computer anyways to handle the new games coming out in the market.
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adeezy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1428 Posts
March 13 2011 08:22 GMT
#23
Yeah, but keep in mind that this is only Starcraft's first part, can you imagine once heart of the swarm comes out, and then after the protoss one... whatever that's gonna be called.
I asked my friend how the ratio at a party was, he replied. "Let's just say for every guy there was two dudes."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 13 2011 08:23 GMT
#24
well now we're talking about the future of the game. not worth it for the UMS yet
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Exhale-
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 10:09:11
March 13 2011 08:24 GMT
#25
I really don't like it when people try to compare SC2 to BW. Its apples and oranges people, why can't you see that? Either way I find it funny that people are trying to comment on how boring the game is/was when there not currently playing it or they played it a few months ago, the game has honestly changed so much since then. It went from every game being a "who can 1 base better" situation and never getting past the 10 minute mark, to now where people are actually FEing a LOT now and games are starting to become back and forth and not just 1 big decisive battle. Sometimes the problem isn't the game its just the way the game is being played. Anyway to wrap up if your starting to enjoy SC2 try it out, just because your buying the game doesn't mean you need to be a top 200 player or high masters, it can just be an enjoyable way to pass the time and for me currently SC2 is that

P.S.
LOL at the person who said more and more SC2 people are leaving for brood war. I love brood war, I hope it still lives on in some form (blizz no lawsuit plz) but honestly outside of korea its dieing and its sad to see an end to such a great era.

edit:adding a word
gogo Mvp!!
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 13 2011 08:38 GMT
#26
Why do people always refer this as a 'part 1 of SC2'

Isn't this the 2nd part of SC as a whole? by then, blizzard should have a great deal of knowledge on how to make the game more lovable especially by the LOYAL fans of the 10 year old game. And even if you say it's a different game altogether, the concept that made SC:BW live on even after the world has gotten over it has to be included in SC2 like competitive maps, functional ladder without bonus points, International Connectivity, LAN.

Poeple keep saying that it's the 1st part of SC2, but I think blizzard made you think its the 1st part of SC. Making you forget what Broodwar did for the success of SC2.
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Airact
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland366 Posts
March 13 2011 08:45 GMT
#27
Well in Starcraft 2 you actually never, or very rarely get the "epic" feeling when a game is really good before Masters League.

I'm personally struggling to get even into Masters(2,9k Diamond, slumping even. God it's annoying to lose massive amounts of overall bad games) and I maybe get one really good game in a week when I play 15-20 games a day. I play Zerg so that might affect both my struggling and the "epic" feeling.

Anyway, before Masters you generally still see games where two Balls 1a each other and one wins. Less and less overall, but it's still mostly that.

I personally think BW is a bit more enjoyable in LANs and when you play casually with friends, but SC2 is easier to become competitive at and might be more fun being competitive when the games become actually good.
anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
March 13 2011 08:50 GMT
#28
in your particular circumstances, it's definitely worth the 60 bucks, i'd recommend you grab it

it's not only a lot more accesible, but also a lot more rewarding for a casual(ish) experience than bw, especially considering you already got bw experience

and you can go to the gym/play sports when boredom/annoyance kicks in so you'll get both starcraft and exercise :-))
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
Hakker
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1360 Posts
March 13 2011 09:02 GMT
#29
On March 13 2011 16:50 etheovermind wrote:
don't do it. More and more are coming to bw from sc2, why spend the money.


This is completely unfactual and false. I hate making inflammatory posts, but I honestly wish I had a report button. Virtually every post I've seen of yours is spouting some factual innacuracy about sc2. You make the BW fans of this site look desperate and poisonous to the community. I love BW, I love sc2. There's no reason to come into threads like this and try to ruin both communities by acting like a spoiled child.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
March 13 2011 09:06 GMT
#30
On March 13 2011 17:23 Kenpachi wrote:
well now we're talking about the future of the game. not worth it for the UMS yet

Well there is SC2:BW

Close enough to BW and has the new pretty graphics!
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 13 2011 09:23 GMT
#31
On March 13 2011 18:02 Hakker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 16:50 etheovermind wrote:
don't do it. More and more are coming to bw from sc2, why spend the money.


This is completely unfactual and false. I hate making inflammatory posts, but I honestly wish I had a report button. Virtually every post I've seen of yours is spouting some factual innacuracy about sc2. You make the BW fans of this site look desperate and poisonous to the community. I love BW, I love sc2. There's no reason to come into threads like this and try to ruin both communities by acting like a spoiled child.

^ QFT

hes been banned before for this anyway but still persists :O
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
March 13 2011 10:19 GMT
#32
I play sc2 for fun, its still not quite as fun as bw..
but

i enjoy broodwar better but, still gotta go with the times i guess
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
March 13 2011 10:24 GMT
#33
Damn dude I'm in like the same situation as you. I too would have to upgrade my computer to play SC2, and I swear when I watch games I think "OMG I COULD SO DO THAT EASILY TOO".

It doesn't help that a couple of my friends play the game and talk about it. And when they do all I can say is, "Wow dude, I'd whoop you and I've never played the game before lol".

I too was C- iccup, probably could have gotten higher, but I would have to grind out more games and I never really had the dedication for it.

Haven't played in 2 years? Me too.

IDK man, it gets me excited and wanting to play SC2, but I think for now I'm going to try and concentrate on other hobbies, and save up some money. I'm thinking about checking out SC2 during the summer...
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 11:17:01
March 13 2011 11:11 GMT
#34
Wow C on IcCup!
If I was your boss and you had that on your resume guess who'd be getting a promotion ASAP!!
On March 13 2011 18:23 AnotherEon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 18:02 Hakker wrote:
On March 13 2011 16:50 etheovermind wrote:
don't do it. More and more are coming to bw from sc2, why spend the money.


This is completely unfactual and false. I hate making inflammatory posts, but I honestly wish I had a report button. Virtually every post I've seen of yours is spouting some factual innacuracy about sc2. You make the BW fans of this site look desperate and poisonous to the community. I love BW, I love sc2. There's no reason to come into threads like this and try to ruin both communities by acting like a spoiled child.

^ QFT

hes been banned before for this anyway but still persists :O

Agree. This guy is ob just flamebaiting as usual... I thought he had changed for the better after that blog of his. Apparently not!
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IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 15:49:45
March 13 2011 15:45 GMT
#35
On March 13 2011 20:11 SushilS wrote:
Wow C on IcCup!
If I was your boss and you had that on your resume guess who'd be getting a promotion ASAP!!
Show nested quote +
On March 13 2011 18:23 AnotherEon wrote:
On March 13 2011 18:02 Hakker wrote:
On March 13 2011 16:50 etheovermind wrote:
don't do it. More and more are coming to bw from sc2, why spend the money.


This is completely unfactual and false. I hate making inflammatory posts, but I honestly wish I had a report button. Virtually every post I've seen of yours is spouting some factual innacuracy about sc2. You make the BW fans of this site look desperate and poisonous to the community. I love BW, I love sc2. There's no reason to come into threads like this and try to ruin both communities by acting like a spoiled child.

^ QFT

hes been banned before for this anyway but still persists :O

Agree. This guy is ob just flamebaiting as usual... I thought he had changed for the better after that blog of his. Apparently not!

I'm honestly not trying to flame bait but I did edit my post so that it wouldn't be perceived that way. I was actually just stating something I had observed being on this website, and that there were several posts monthly about people from SC2 switching over to BW. I myself made that switch.
EDIT also, PM if you want to borrow my SC2 account to try it out. I don't really use it any more.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 13 2011 16:11 GMT
#36
theres plenty of people going from BW-> sc2 too dunno what your point is. One just has to view your post history to see all the anti sc2 hate anyway ;p. there has been "starting to play BW" threads for years and years, guess since you are new around here you wouldn't know that though ^^;
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 13 2011 16:16 GMT
#37
On March 14 2011 01:11 AnotherEon wrote:
theres plenty of people going from BW-> sc2 too dunno what your point is. One just has to view your post history to see all the anti sc2 hate anyway ;p. there has been "starting to play BW" threads for years and years, guess since you are new around here you wouldn't know that though ^^;

What do you mean I am new here? You came here 2 months ago I have been here since August(which hasn't been too long but still longer than you). What I mean to say is that SC2 is clearly not a perfect game by the fact that there are people leaving a game with better graphics, easier UI, more people playing, more potential for money to play a game from the 90's. I would just wait until the game is agreed to have better gameplay than BW or at least until Lotv comes out.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 16:18:41
March 13 2011 16:17 GMT
#38

I'm honestly not trying to flame bait but I did edit my post so that it wouldn't be perceived that way. I was actually just stating something I had observed being on this website, and that there were several posts monthly about people from SC2 switching over to BW. I myself made that switch.
EDIT also, PM if you want to borrow my SC2 account to try it out. I don't really use it any more.

This is probably because you need help to switch from SC2 to BW but not the other way around (and judging by the BW community the people who do switch to SC2 probably aren't proud of it lol). You can't make conclusions from a couple of threads in a community of tens of thousands anyway. I don't know why people always think that their anecdotal observations are statistically valid.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 13 2011 16:21 GMT
#39
On March 14 2011 01:17 Redmark wrote:
Show nested quote +

I'm honestly not trying to flame bait but I did edit my post so that it wouldn't be perceived that way. I was actually just stating something I had observed being on this website, and that there were several posts monthly about people from SC2 switching over to BW. I myself made that switch.
EDIT also, PM if you want to borrow my SC2 account to try it out. I don't really use it any more.

This is probably because you need help to switch from SC2 to BW but not the other way around (and judging by the BW community the people who do switch to SC2 probably aren't proud of it lol). You can't make conclusions from a couple of threads in a community of tens of thousands anyway. I don't know why people always think that their anecdotal observations are statistically valid.

I am not trying to be statistically valid. I have an opinion, just like you do. Our opinions on him switching to SC2 was requested for by the OP and I have granted him my opinion. I can give other reasons why I have my opinion but I would rather do them over PM than on this public thread because of the fact that they may offend some.
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AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
March 13 2011 16:25 GMT
#40
On March 14 2011 01:16 etheovermind wrote:
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On March 14 2011 01:11 AnotherEon wrote:
theres plenty of people going from BW-> sc2 too dunno what your point is. One just has to view your post history to see all the anti sc2 hate anyway ;p. there has been "starting to play BW" threads for years and years, guess since you are new around here you wouldn't know that though ^^;

What do you mean I am new here? You came here 2 months ago I have been here since August(which hasn't been too long but still longer than you).

I mean the starcraft scene obviously, you think when someone registers is the first moment they followed progaming? i've been playing and following BW for years and years stay small
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 13 2011 16:27 GMT
#41
On March 14 2011 01:25 AnotherEon wrote:
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On March 14 2011 01:16 etheovermind wrote:
On March 14 2011 01:11 AnotherEon wrote:
theres plenty of people going from BW-> sc2 too dunno what your point is. One just has to view your post history to see all the anti sc2 hate anyway ;p. there has been "starting to play BW" threads for years and years, guess since you are new around here you wouldn't know that though ^^;

What do you mean I am new here? You came here 2 months ago I have been here since August(which hasn't been too long but still longer than you).

I mean the starcraft scene obviously, you think when someone registers is the first moment they followed progaming? i've been playing and following BW for years and years stay small

Ok I am sorry. I am newer to the BW scene than you are.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
March 13 2011 16:29 GMT
#42
Hmm try it ?
If you don't like it stop and come back to bw or find another game. Seems pretty obvious no ?
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 16:39:01
March 13 2011 16:38 GMT
#43
On March 14 2011 01:29 Boblion wrote:
Hmm try it ?
If you don't like it stop and come back to bw or find another game. Seems pretty obvious no ?

He just said that he has to upgrade his computer and buy SC2 itself, thats alot of dollars for some people(especially students).

Get a guest pass, see if you enjoy it. It should give you enough of an impression if its fun to play with friends or your source of ''socializing'' if you will.
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 16:50:00
March 13 2011 16:49 GMT
#44
On March 14 2011 01:38 Kipsate wrote:
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On March 14 2011 01:29 Boblion wrote:
Hmm try it ?
If you don't like it stop and come back to bw or find another game. Seems pretty obvious no ?

He just said that he has to upgrade his computer and buy SC2 itself, thats alot of dollars for some people(especially students).

Get a guest pass, see if you enjoy it. It should give you enough of an impression if its fun to play with friends or your source of ''socializing'' if you will.

Your answer makes even less sense lol.
A guest pass doesn't come with a free 500$ computer. On the other hand he can always try Sc2 at a cybercafé.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
March 13 2011 16:58 GMT
#45
On March 14 2011 01:29 Boblion wrote:
Hmm try it ?
If you don't like it stop and come back to bw or find another game. Seems pretty obvious no ?

No, this is a life altering decision that needs several board meetings and discussions to properly assess.

I often find it funny how people grind out the ladder trying to get better at this game, only caring about their record... I got good at this game just by having fun playing people I know.
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AnotherEon
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom250 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-13 17:12:08
March 13 2011 17:11 GMT
#46
On March 14 2011 01:58 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2011 01:29 Boblion wrote:
Hmm try it ?
If you don't like it stop and come back to bw or find another game. Seems pretty obvious no ?

No, this is a life altering decision that needs several board meetings and discussions to properly assess.

I often find it funny how people grind out the ladder trying to get better at this game, only caring about their record... I got good at this game just by having fun playing people I know.

yeah i dont really understand it either ;o unless you intend on becoming a progamer it doesn't matter at all, i also find it weird how people say they played a game competitively when they have no tournament results. enjoying winning and therefore trying to win != playing competitively, but thats just me nitpicking i guess :p
HudsonK
Profile Joined December 2009
China172 Posts
March 13 2011 17:17 GMT
#47
My 2 cents:
I'm C- Iccup, bought sc2 when it first came out and it went pretty well... then got pretty boring with the mirror matchups. (pvp & zvz) tvt is pretty fun though . Then went back to bw after about 3-4 months in and barely touch sc2 now.

If you have to upgrade your computer just to play sc2, i don't think it would be worth it. :x
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
March 13 2011 17:36 GMT
#48
C- is definitely going to make you masters. Which is just going to feel as unrewarding as before really imo. I mean sure it might be fun climbing to that point and smashing noobs for a while but long-term fun i don't know.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
March 13 2011 18:20 GMT
#49
Interesting opinions, interesting opinions.

I am aware that trying it is the best option, but, as mentioned, it isn't exactly free to try out. Going to a friend's place to play doesn't really cut it as I've already played the game a good amount of times so I know how the game works etc..

I actually might not NEED to upgrade if it can run on a macbook 13.3 inch...anybody know if it can? I upgraded to 4 gigs for all my DJing stuff so it's a bit more beefier. I know you can customize hotkeys so the keyboard wouldn't really be an issue. So that might be a cheaper option....

And yeah I am not comparing sc2 to BW at all. I've played BW for years; I have no motivation to play the game anymore. Obviously I think BW is a better game in terms of depth and mechanics...but as a casual player now, it's a little too demanding. That's why SC2 is appealing. Also it's got a huge fanbase which has kinda blown me away as to how popular it's gotten.

On March 13 2011 19:24 nemY wrote:
Damn dude I'm in like the same situation as you. I too would have to upgrade my computer to play SC2, and I swear when I watch games I think "OMG I COULD SO DO THAT EASILY TOO".

It doesn't help that a couple of my friends play the game and talk about it. And when they do all I can say is, "Wow dude, I'd whoop you and I've never played the game before lol".

I too was C- iccup, probably could have gotten higher, but I would have to grind out more games and I never really had the dedication for it.

Haven't played in 2 years? Me too.

IDK man, it gets me excited and wanting to play SC2, but I think for now I'm going to try and concentrate on other hobbies, and save up some money. I'm thinking about checking out SC2 during the summer...


Yeah totally agree. I was same with iccup too! I never had the dedication to ladder, I totally could have gotten higher than C- in my prime. If you get the game let me know, we can play some games (assuming I end up getting it).
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 13 2011 18:31 GMT
#50
On March 14 2011 03:20 Zapdos_Smithh wrote:
Interesting opinions, interesting opinions.

I am aware that trying it is the best option, but, as mentioned, it isn't exactly free to try out. Going to a friend's place to play doesn't really cut it as I've already played the game a good amount of times so I know how the game works etc..

I actually might not NEED to upgrade if it can run on a macbook 13.3 inch...anybody know if it can? I upgraded to 4 gigs for all my DJing stuff so it's a bit more beefier. I know you can customize hotkeys so the keyboard wouldn't really be an issue. So that might be a cheaper option....

And yeah I am not comparing sc2 to BW at all. I've played BW for years; I have no motivation to play the game anymore. Obviously I think BW is a better game in terms of depth and mechanics...but as a casual player now, it's a little too demanding. That's why SC2 is appealing. Also it's got a huge fanbase which has kinda blown me away as to how popular it's gotten.

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On March 13 2011 19:24 nemY wrote:
Damn dude I'm in like the same situation as you. I too would have to upgrade my computer to play SC2, and I swear when I watch games I think "OMG I COULD SO DO THAT EASILY TOO".

It doesn't help that a couple of my friends play the game and talk about it. And when they do all I can say is, "Wow dude, I'd whoop you and I've never played the game before lol".

I too was C- iccup, probably could have gotten higher, but I would have to grind out more games and I never really had the dedication for it.

Haven't played in 2 years? Me too.

IDK man, it gets me excited and wanting to play SC2, but I think for now I'm going to try and concentrate on other hobbies, and save up some money. I'm thinking about checking out SC2 during the summer...


Yeah totally agree. I was same with iccup too! I never had the dedication to ladder, I totally could have gotten higher than C- in my prime. If you get the game let me know, we can play some games (assuming I end up getting it).

I play on macbook 13 inch. And like I said before, you can try on my account because trails only have 7 hrs max, which isn't enough to really get the true picture.
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
March 13 2011 18:55 GMT
#51
it's fun if you have people to play with, ladder is ok but the skill levels are really wide and most of the time you end up winning by just macro. If you plan to play it regularly for a few weeks I think 60$ would be worth it, however upgrading your pc is always good too even if you don't like SC2 tons of new games out there.

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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9551 Posts
March 13 2011 19:08 GMT
#52
Since we are in a similar position, I can offer you my opinion and experience. Take it as you wish.

I am a BW player who plays BW as a hobby for years and it's just something I do without even thinking about it as a game anymore. But as you, I was also debating of trying out SC2 recently, but there was little to no chance I would give 60 or so bucks to just try out some game. That is until a week ago, when a friend gave me an account on which I can play.

I started playing some teamgames, because that's only thing I play in BW, and I honestly don't know what to tell you. Sometimes I get in a mood to play a game or two, but that mood is usually over by the time games are over. I can't offer you any constructive criticism of the game, because only thing I know how to do is to make Stalkers, AND blink them! (that is so fun, and works too!).
But after I have my fair share of blinking, I usually go back to BW and play some BGH with my friends I know for years and we do our usual game/chatting sessions (it's like going out on a drink with your friends).
So now, I have both BW and SC2 icon on my desktop and just click on which I feel like at the moment (hint: it's usually BW ^^).

So in the end, if you're not swimming in dough, I might put off spending 200+ bucks to try something you MIGHT have fun with and try some other, less expensive, hobbies. And if after some time you're still in search of a hobby and you saved some money, then sure why not, try out SC2 too.
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