• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 04:20
CEST 10:20
KST 17:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview3[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10
Community News
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !7Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results12026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO12 Results
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base
Brood War
General
Do we have a pimpest plays list? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (Spoiler) Asl ro8 D winner interview BW General Discussion AI Question
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 4 Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL22] RO16 Group Stage - 02 - 10 May
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread OutLive 25 (RTS Game) Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1301 users

Humanity

Blogs > powernapper
Post a Reply
powernapper
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Italy21 Posts
March 12 2011 19:48 GMT
#1
With the recent events in Japan and in general in the world I think a lot of us start to reflect on what we are and what is the purpose of life and the usual questions. I've recently been watching some Sir Ken Robinson videos and although he mostly covers education he also gives some great views on life in general. What I'm about to quote comes from the last part of this video:



Where he comments on Bertrand Russel's quote: "Is man what he seems to the astronomer, a tiny lump of impure carbon and water impotently crawling on a small and unimportant planet? Or is he what he seems to Hamlet? Or is he both at once?"

He responded something like (I've rewritten it a little so it isn't an exact quote but it's the same concept, if you want to hear exactly what he says go to about 1:07:00 in that video.

We may be pitifully tiny in cosmic terms, but nonetheless we are the species that did produce Hamlet, and the Sistine Chapel, and the David, the great religions of the world, and quantum mechanics, and the digital culture and the 6000 languages currently spoken in the word, and these, are not insignificant achievements, and we all owe this to a single capacity that distinguishes us from every other species on earth, the power of imagination. The power to bring to mind the things that are not present in our senses. And we owe everything we take for granted to it.

has left the game
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 12 2011 19:55 GMT
#2
How do you know animals don't have imagination?
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
March 12 2011 19:59 GMT
#3
somehow, developing 6000 languages instead of simply one doesn't strike me as particularly intelligent haha :D
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
March 12 2011 20:02 GMT
#4
Yeah it seems like creative artifacts are new combinations of things that are present in our senses. Animals do the same thing with the homes they build, their communication and the games they play. So either we both have imagination or neither of us truly have imagination.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
powernapper
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Italy21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 20:20:38
March 12 2011 20:18 GMT
#5
On March 13 2011 04:55 zulu_nation8 wrote:
How do you know animals don't have imagination?


I was wondering whether or not to add this to the post but seeing as it was long enough already I decided not to, he says that he doesn't know whether or not animals do or do not have imagination but he makes a great example at the kind of imagination that is being implied. Take a child into the garden and point at the moon and the child will look at the moon where as if you took a dog and did the exact same thing your dog would probably end up staring at your finger. Other animals often sing but they don't compose operas, they often look confused but they don't compose philosophical, they communicate but they don't write plays. As for Tyler's comment I believe he means imagining that what we do not sense at that moment, in the present. Being able to imagine what you cannot sense at that very moment, and MisterD I really don't know what to say to that sorry.


I really can't explain it as well as he does you only need to watch about 10 minutes starting from 1:07:00 that will better answering what you are getting at.

EDIT: To sort of reply to your comment MisterD I would like to say the word intelligent was never used, rather imagination and what incredible results a "lump of impure carbon and water" can achieve thanks to that imagination rather than intelligence.
has left the game
Sotamursu
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland612 Posts
March 12 2011 20:50 GMT
#6
On March 13 2011 04:48 powernapper wrote:
We may be pitifully tiny in cosmic terms, but nonetheless we are the species that did produce Hamlet, and the Sistine Chapel, and the David, the great religions of the world, and quantum mechanics, and the digital culture and the 6000 languages currently spoken in the word, and these, are not insignificant achievements, and we all owe this to a single capacity that distinguishes us from every other species on earth, the power of imagination. The power to bring to mind the things that are not present in our senses. And we owe everything we take for granted to it.

We're tiny, so what? Why would size in the cosmic sense have to do with anything, a black hole is a singularity, pretty much as small as something can be, yet it's one of the most powerful things in the universe. As for significance, we're about as significant as a rock on the moon, if you look at things from an objective point of view. From a subjective view, everything is as significant as you want them to be.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
March 12 2011 20:51 GMT
#7
On March 13 2011 04:55 zulu_nation8 wrote:
How do you know animals don't have imagination?


thanks for the new sig man!
I get brain like a skull
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 12 2011 20:51 GMT
#8
So because a dog doesn't interpret a human gestures the same way a child does the dog lacks imagination?
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
March 12 2011 21:14 GMT
#9
Uhh I think he need to change imagination with abstract thinking and it would be alright.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
March 12 2011 23:24 GMT
#10
i love the word "imagination"
[image loading]

I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech126
StarCraft: Brood War
Killer 289
Mind 203
Mini 116
Mong 74
ToSsGirL 70
910 49
Nal_rA 39
Hm[arnc] 36
Sharp 31
Shinee 16
[ Show more ]
NotJumperer 15
Bale 12
ggaemo 12
ZergMaN 11
sorry 10
soO 3
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
monkeys_forever217
NeuroSwarm78
Counter-Strike
allub191
edward49
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox328
Westballz33
Other Games
gofns16577
singsing829
ceh9499
WinterStarcraft436
Mew2King68
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick966
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 20
• Adnapsc2 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt674
Upcoming Events
Escore
1h 40m
The PondCast
1h 40m
WardiTV Invitational
2h 40m
Zoun vs Ryung
Lambo vs ShoWTimE
Big Brain Bouts
7h 40m
Fjant vs Bly
Serral vs Shameless
OSC
13h 40m
Replay Cast
15h 40m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 1h
SHIN vs Bunny
ByuN vs Shameless
WardiTV Invitational
1d 2h
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 6h
[ Show More ]
BSL
1d 10h
Artosis vs TerrOr
spx vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
1d 15h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Cure vs Zoun
Clem vs Lambo
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
BSL
2 days
Dewalt vs DragOn
Aether vs Jimin
GSL
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Soma vs Leta
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Light vs Flash
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-05
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
Escore Tournament S2: W6
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W7
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026: Closed Qualifier
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.