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On February 27 2011 14:54 Subversive wrote:
BluePabs don't tell him to shut up, and RaFeStaR don't call people brainless. You're actually making the situation worse by being offensive. Keep it civil. It's Inc's apology/discussion blog. Not a brawl.
I'm discussing how ignorant it is to constantly bash a guy who has spent the last 3 days trying to apologize. Not only that, he wants to completely change who he is so people like brah can get satisfaction.
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On February 27 2011 14:50 BluePabs wrote:
Shut up already. You've stated your opinion clearly enough and honestly I'm sure I'm not the only one who gets your point and wishes you to let it go at that. If you have something constructive to say that's another matter but please...we get your point already!
I agree with you... I want to leave it, as I feel I've said all I need too... but...
On February 27 2011 14:51 RaFeStaR wrote:
Incontrol isn't racist, he's fucking hilarious. Anyone who can't see past that is retarded.
EDIT: To add on one of my last points, do you really think incontrol would act the way he does on SOTG, on a professional stream for a tournament worth that much money? I don't think you can separate a show that is done for the community and a huge tournament worth lots of money and exposure for western esports.
This guy just doesn't get it.
I SAY that I find what iNcontrol said was a joke... He retorts my point, but agrees with me :S
Then some stupid shit about not being a jackass on the proper NASL stream etc... Is like saying Lindsey Lohan won't snort coke on the set of the Disney movie, she'll do it in her own time, so its OK.
This guy just doesn't get it
Final point... Like it or not, as the face of a product, you need to be professional at all times.
Bluepabs, I thought I made my point clear enough already too... Thanks for the affirmation.
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i dont want to place blame on 'her', but the e-drama on this site has hit stratospheric levels and its having such a terrible effect on the community at large. you can't even get an opinion in without starting a war.
like what chill was saying on weapon of choice (i think?) with djwheat. people are no longer players of the game. people far more enjoy the drama, the daily soap of esports. the fact that even incontrol feels he needs to be apologize for, well, being incontrol, is mind boggling (aside from the gsl restream). dear incontrol, hopefully you dont get sucked into all this crap and will continue to be the big gaudy bear we all love. dont let oversensitive people get to you. its that bear we all know and would hate to lose.
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Bluepabs, I thought I made my point clear enough already too... Thanks for the affirmation.
And I apologize for the abrasiveness of my post. I should have been more thoughtful in choosing my words, I'm sorry if it was offensive.
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On February 27 2011 15:07 BluePabs wrote:Show nested quote +
Bluepabs, I thought I made my point clear enough already too... Thanks for the affirmation.
And I apologize for the abrasiveness of my post. I should have been more consciousness in choosing my words, I'm sorry if it was offensive.
I took no offense.
What you said was correct... I have been going on and on and on like a broken record. There is always an individual who mistakes my posts as "iNcontrol BASHING!! WAHH!!" instead of "This guy is looking out for the sponsors which make these events possible."
Heres hoping I can retire from this thread 
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BluePabs clearly has a point. Incontrol put himself into the spotlight to help grow Nasl. How do you grow NASL? You get sponsors to help expand. Just being hilarious won't help grow Nasl.There has to be a level of professionalism. We here at TL all wants Nasl to succeed. And for the record, some of the sponsors of gsl (newegg/gSkill) has an asian CEO.
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On February 27 2011 15:10 deerpark87 wrote:. And for the record, some of the sponsors of gsl (newegg/gSkill) has an asian CEO.
BAM.
That finishes it off well.
iNcontrol knows this. Thus the reason for this blog.
Onward and upwards!
EDIT:Sorry, not that iNcontrol KNOWS their CEO is Asian. But he realizes it was inappropriate, and unprofessional.
ONWARD and UPWARDS!
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On February 27 2011 14:44 BrahCJ wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2011 14:36 RaFeStaR wrote:
I can't imagine him begging for that responsibility. I'm not sure, because I'm not at all involved. I don't understand your whole "taking the piss out of minorities" statement. Making fun of a horrible caster warrants that? You make absolutely no sense.
Mocking an Asian due to their accent is an age-old joke. I think its a joke, however others would call it overt racism. Some of the people who think its overt racism may be paying for season tickets, or buying X brand's RAM. The responsibility comes with the territory. Lindsey Lohan didn't ask to be photographed snorting coke. When you nominate yourself to be in the limelight, you need to act professional at all times... It sucks ass at times, but thats all part of the game.
Yes, there is a bit more onus for InControl to act more 'professional' and diplomatic. But what exactly has he done that even comes close to:
a) snorting coke
b) showing the paparazzi his vagina
c) cheating on his wife with dozens of women, including pornstars
d) claiming that the Jews ruin everything
e) etc., etc.
The worse thing the guy has ever done is make some off-color remarks.
In regards to racism against Asians -- I'm Chinese, and personally, I thought he was making fun of Milkes and not Asians in general. I didn't find it offensive at all. But that's just me.
People might find InControl offensive from time to time, and I understand that. But to his to credit, when the guy has fun with people, he's equally offensive across all cultures and ethnicities -- Jews, Germans, British, Koreans, Horses ... I have a hard time believing that his humor comes from a dark place.
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On February 27 2011 15:17 Defacer wrote:
I have a hard time believing that his humor comes from a dark place.
For what its worth, I couldn't agree with you more.
Its just the image of eSports I'm looking out for
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On February 27 2011 15:17 Defacer wrote:
b) showing the paparazzi his vagina
Lollollollol.
SC - such a welcoming community! We support trannies and all!
Could be helpful to do that if the CEO of... Say, Microsoft was a trannie...... Hmmm.
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What's wrong with Huko?
In what planet does
"Watching a re-stream" == "Restreaming".
If anything, iNcontroL should've been warned / banned / whatever for dubious judgement or abusive use of his moderating powers, but your ban should have never been lifted.
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iNcontrol is the bees nees nuff said. Everyone makes mistakes its the important thing that he knew he made mistakes and said sorry. Apology accepted
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iNcontroL fighting!
*insert haters gonna hate pic*
Edit: @ everybody saying apology accepted, I say apologize for what, being funny?
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iNcontroL ftw!
Being yourself is what makes you a good 'selling point' if you weren't so off-color and charismatic no one would care. You'd be boring. But you're not; so keep doing what you're doing and let the haters hate!
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Well, I'm going to become really sad if you stop being on SotG or streaming - or especially if you continue doing those, but only commentate on stuff like a lawyer would do, with no personal opinion or huge chunk of sarcasm.
I have grown into a huge fan of you and even though you have no idea who I am, I really hope your life is as awesome as it can be, andyeah. </gay>
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I'll be honest, I've always thought of you as a little over-arrogant, but that could very well have been due to the limiting nature of online posting. I could probably enjoy your crude remarks and offensive jokes in real life.
Looking forward to NASL!
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On February 27 2011 16:37 fer wrote:
What's wrong with Huko?
In what planet does
"Watching a re-stream" == "Restreaming".
If anything, iNcontroL should've been warned / banned / whatever for dubious judgement or abusive use of his moderating powers, but your ban should have never been lifted.
what dubious judgement? and what abusive use of his moderating powers?
Watching a restream and restreaming both give out the same result i.e showing live gsl matches, but it is free anyway (unless you watch HQ, but people aren't gonna restream something that they paid for, i mean would you feel like showing hq stream to others when you paid for it and they didnt?) so i don't know what the big fuss is about with the restreams.
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Beeing honest and giving people a hard time is what I really like about you Geoff. There are many public figures who choose to be outspoken and gain huge support because of it, beeing controversial is not wrong in itself. I would hate to see you try to please everybody if it would go against your own nature. Besides there's always going to be people complaining no matter how politically correct you are.
You are an important person in e-sports so you have to be a role model when it comes to the industry, other than that I think you should give fuck all and keep doing your thing.
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Geoff I think that you're a fantastic person and perfect representative of the SC2 community. You're fun and sarcastic when streaming, in State of the Game, etc., and when it becomes necessary to take the podium you can just change face and be a professional.
With that said, I think that you should remember how the most vocal people are the ones with the least to say and that the cry of one person that thinks you're shit is easily heard about the rest. But I'm willing to bet that there's only like 1 out of every 400 people that actually doesn't think you're doing a fantastic job.
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On February 27 2011 18:37 Animostas wrote:
Geoff I think that you're a fantastic person and perfect representative of the SC2 community. You're fun and sarcastic when streaming, in State of the Game, etc., and when it becomes necessary to take the podium you can just change face and be a professional.
With that said, I think that you should remember how the most vocal people are the ones with the least to say and that the cry of one person that thinks you're shit is easily heard about the rest. But I'm willing to bet that there's only like 1 out of every 400 people that actually doesn't think you're doing a fantastic job.
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I honestly lost all respect for InControl when I saw his cast mocking Kelly. Totally inappropriate.
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