EPTtl;dr : Im sorry about my behaviour this week
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Mafs
Canada458 Posts
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GhettoSheep
United States150 Posts
Ignoring the fact that there's always like 10 other restreams of the GSL, and people only bashed on you, the second the JustinTV mod warned you that you shouldn't do it, you turned it off. I really don't understand why people are hating on you. With the Kelly thing, yeah it was probably wrong, but she asked you to stop and you did. The people that made fun of her weren't making fun of her because you did, they were going to anyways. It was probably right to apologize and you did, people need to just get over it lol. There are a ton of haters in the community and unfortunately they are the vocal majority, but I really think the large majority of all starcraft fans actually love your personality. So I don't think you should change at all, maybe just don't make fun of Kelly. Let the haters hate and just be yourself man. | ||
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reyk
United States21 Posts
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Proflo
United States148 Posts
On February 27 2011 23:55 Torte de Lini wrote: Sigh, I feel an apology is having a reverse effect. By apologizing, you underline that there is a problem with you, your attitude and how you talk to people. You admit there are flaws, we all do, but it becomes the focus of you. Those who talked, sputtered crap, those who were fine with you did what mattered: watched your stream and support you. We won't come to your rescue in these topics because we all know it's pointless. The haters will talk and they'll talk loud ruining everyone's enjoyment and making the waters mucky. But honestly? You're a great man and your deeds are not under appreciated or unappreciated at all. Remember that. Did you cross the line a few times? Not to me, but that's my perception, it's good that you apologized for those a bit sensitive, but in the end, your actions will speak louder than words and you know this. That's it, just wanted to give you a pat on the back, shield my face and continue cheering you on. I hate Protoss but I know we're brotosses mang! ^^ Sadly i agree with this post, only gonna allow haters to hate with permission :'(. iNcontroL Hwaiting! | ||
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NearPerfection
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syrupychinadian
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But unfortunately the business world doesn't work like that and he'll have to tone it down and might even disappear from community projects like SotG. Or maybe it'll be ok as JP is a great example of a company man and great community person. But if Incontrol doesn't turn out to be JP#2, I wish him the best. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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MythArc
United States35 Posts
One of the things i like best about the starcraft community is how laid back it is. We don't try to take ourselves too seriously. We are just playing a game, after all. That's why i was pretty excited to see incontrol as the prominent figure for the NASL- he's a guy that likes to fuck around. I understand there's a large desire for esports to grow in the west, but this whole forced "professionalism" of starcraft is not something i want to see. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka27178 Posts
On February 27 2011 12:36 iNcontroL wrote: I've responded to every PM I've received about that. mani brought it up in this thread for reasons beyond me.. they aren't connected at all and it's out of place here. I just thought it was related, since this thread seems to be your chance to clear the air on a lot of stuff, especially when you posted this: "My profession and the community that is exposed to my profession demand a more serious approach. I do not look at this as a sacrifice but a necessary change. If I was just some player trying to commentate some games I would think my persona fine for that role. But I am not. I am the commentator for a league that is seeking to expand eSports in the west. I am a "face" for a brand that means a different future. " And I was wondering how that new face relates to some of the other brands you have promoted. Maybe now is the time to address it as it might be more damaging later on when you have a higher profile. That was my motivation. | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On February 28 2011 04:41 Proflo wrote: ^^ Sadly i agree with this post, only gonna allow haters to hate with permission :'(. iNcontroL Hwaiting! To think there wasn't anything to apologise for is a bit naive.. things needed to be addressed and this was the most mature way to do so.. Hey man - sure there have been some questionable comments in the past but none that would discourage me from placing my esports faith in someone with your passion, drive and commitment to the industry.. By admitting the issues it seems you have accepted the task of change and growing to be a better representative of one of the leading organisations in Western eSports. There will always be a vocal minority; there will always be a less than enviable douchebag posting nerd-rage on reddit when he feels neglected or unloved.. The maturity in this posts shows that you are better than all of that.. At the end of the day however, actions speak louder than words so only time will tell.. You will always have a huge amount of fans that support you 10000% .. Just keep making history :D | ||
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rift`
Australia31 Posts
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Kyhol
Canada2575 Posts
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
On February 28 2011 06:55 rift` wrote: This community is so serious at times... i swear. I've found that part of the seriousness is what makes this community so legit. People actually give a shit about stuff that happens which is awesome. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On February 28 2011 06:22 Manifesto7 wrote: I just thought it was related, since this thread seems to be your chance to clear the air on a lot of stuff, especially when you posted this: "My profession and the community that is exposed to my profession demand a more serious approach. I do not look at this as a sacrifice but a necessary change. If I was just some player trying to commentate some games I would think my persona fine for that role. But I am not. I am the commentator for a league that is seeking to expand eSports in the west. I am a "face" for a brand that means a different future. " And I was wondering how that new face relates to some of the other brands you have promoted. Maybe now is the time to address it as it might be more damaging later on when you have a higher profile. That was my motivation. Alright that makes sense I appreciate that. I have responded each PM I have received but I guess I can mention it here as well: We originally said we will update the guide with videos and maintain it and that was eveyone's intention. The owner/guy that runs everything had his first child and since then became too busy to maintain the site. he tried to delineate work to others to keep it a float but without the main dude driving everything it kinda slowed to a halt. There were SOME updates but nowhere near what we had talked about. Since then he has been really busy and obviously so have I/machine. The guide is still 13 hours + of content for a 1 time purchase but it isn't as great as we wanted it to be with the "living document" idea. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
The claim is that "unprofessionalism" will hurt your chances at success, but I haven't seen it negatively impact Dana White and loads of other people promoting niche entertainment. To be honest, I care more about Mani's points than anything else here. | ||
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Centorian
United States95 Posts
I don't play this game to be awesome at it. It's fun and so is e-sports. You are the reason I usually listen to the pod-cast. Its like stand-up (or in this case, probably sit-down) comedy about starcraft. Fuckin awesome. If you gotta change your image to make the suits and h8ers happy. Hey... gotta do what you gotta do. Just keep bein funny. | ||
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iNcontroL
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Eurekastreet
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On February 28 2011 07:12 iNcontroL wrote: Alright that makes sense I appreciate that. I have responded each PM I have received but I guess I can mention it here as well: We originally said we will update the guide with videos and maintain it and that was eveyone's intention. The owner/guy that runs everything had his first child and since then became too busy to maintain the site. he tried to delineate work to others to keep it a float but without the main dude driving everything it kinda slowed to a halt. There were SOME updates but nowhere near what we had talked about. Since then he has been really busy and obviously so have I/machine. The guide is still 13 hours + of content for a 1 time purchase but it isn't as great as we wanted it to be with the "living document" idea. If you're talking about http://gosuguide.com/, maybe it's time to delete your signature from the bottom of that homepage then and leave the problems to the impromptu father. 100 USD for a site that's as good as dead but still advertizes weekly updates, roundtables, etc for such a bargain price doesn't seem like a fair deal anymore. | ||
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rift`
Australia31 Posts
On February 28 2011 07:12 iNcontroL wrote: Alright that makes sense I appreciate that. I have responded each PM I have received but I guess I can mention it here as well: We originally said we will update the guide with videos and maintain it and that was eveyone's intention. The owner/guy that runs everything had his first child and since then became too busy to maintain the site. he tried to delineate work to others to keep it a float but without the main dude driving everything it kinda slowed to a halt. There were SOME updates but nowhere near what we had talked about. Since then he has been really busy and obviously so have I/machine. The guide is still 13 hours + of content for a 1 time purchase but it isn't as great as we wanted it to be with the "living document" idea. Here's the way i see it iNcontroll, if this community was pure Australia(inb4hatefromtrolls) i think people wouldn't give a shit, what you and the production team are doing, is fucking amazing man. Esports needs to be pushed everywhere and in any way possible. I wish we had someone like you in Aus pushing it for us cause over here it fucking sucks. This whole 'drama' is actualy hilarious to me and my friends who are reading this and i know we all agree you shouldn't care so much what the intertrolls say due to you laying down a handfull of jokes around in what like two sentences. What i think this whole "situation" is like for anyone without a brain I dont understand this whole expectation of you to act like a robot who is perfect in every single way, i think you need to listen to tasteless' mild rants during GSL when he talks from the perspective of cave-nerds in their basement troll-hut when the slightest hiccup occurs during some cast/production or situation that is so far beyond them that the only satisfaction they will get from wasting 6 seconds of their time is making you upset. Stay awesome dude and stay above the trolls, its what makes you so entertaining. | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
On February 28 2011 07:18 Jibba wrote: I wasn't around for what happened but I wish I was. This professionalism thing is being taken too far, and I hope it doesn't start sterilizing everything. Of course the things you said were mean, but so was BiggerT, trolling on BGH and Klazart impressions, and they're all hilarious. The claim is that "unprofessionalism" will hurt your chances at success, but I haven't seen it negatively impact Dana White and loads of other people promoting niche entertainment. To be honest, I care more about Mani's points than anything else here. Perfectly summed up my view on this. G'luck with everything Geoff! | ||
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