• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:02
CET 15:02
KST 23:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1756 users

Anti colossus micro?

Blogs > TzTz
Post a Reply
TzTz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany511 Posts
February 19 2011 23:47 GMT
#1
We have seen anti baneling micro softening up the hardcounter to marines.

I just wonder after again after watching some of the GSTL games: Why don't players counter colossi more by micro? I had great success in 4v4s with it, and I don't even execute it that well... Basically colossi have splash rectangular to the direction they fire in. So typicalls when two armies fight two frontlines will form. You can reduce colossus splash a LOT by selecting 1-2 units at a time and moving them a step to the front or a step to the back. Colossi hit 2-3 units at a time if you do well.

Of course forcefield makes this difficult, but there are lots of possibilities where this kind of micro should really help, but i never saw it used really...

What do you think?

mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
February 19 2011 23:52 GMT
#2
This would be more viable with 1-2 colossi, but in most large engagements, that kind of micro would be negligible, because the colossi numbers would be a little too much.

But generally speaking, in an engagement with few colossi, there's a lot of micro anyway.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
February 19 2011 23:54 GMT
#3
Well, forcefields are mostly used to trap units between the forcefield and your units. There's no micro room. In situations where you CAN micro, especially with zerg, all your doing is taking an already scarce number of units out of fighting range. In PvP people do micro, but it's mostly microing the colossus.
Lanaia is love.
SiN]
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States540 Posts
February 20 2011 01:08 GMT
#4
Forcefields and ranged units make it not worth doing.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
February 20 2011 02:50 GMT
#5
On February 20 2011 10:08 SiN] wrote:
Forcefields and ranged units make it not worth doing.


Indeed. Once you engage their army, if you start "microing" your units around you're actually hurting yourself more than helping yourself.

The only micro you really do in full engagement situations is retreating or committing and making a good arc.

The "micro" that OP is talking about makes you lose DPS and ur units will stumble around, not to mention forcefields as sin just said above. It's better to not touch your units sometimes, unless you're kiting, but that is different from the "micro" you are trying to describe in OP.
Sup
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 04:13:16
February 20 2011 04:12 GMT
#6
What you can do in a pvp situation, where both sides have collossi, is to send half your zealots in at a time. This way only half of your zealots will be taking damage at any moment. Your opponent will use up his meat shield before you do.

Generally when you post this kind of theory, you want to have a few videos to back your case up.
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 04:40:52
February 20 2011 04:31 GMT
#7
On February 20 2011 08:47 TzTz wrote:

Of course forcefield makes this difficult, but there are lots of possibilities where this kind of micro should really help, but i never saw it used really...

What do you think?

I think you answered your own question. FF goes up, units behind FF keep shooting, the units in front get the fuck out of dodge. You are microing your vikings ofc, and once your units in front get out of dodge two things happen:

a) toss/terran fucks off thinking he can't win
b) you have a back and forth battle, and toss tries to FF you again, repeat and rinse.

On February 20 2011 11:50 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2011 10:08 SiN] wrote:
Forcefields and ranged units make it not worth doing.

The "micro" that OP is talking about makes you lose DPS and ur units will stumble around, not to mention forcefields as sin just said above. It's better to not touch your units sometimes, unless you're kiting, but that is different from the "micro" you are trying to describe in OP.

Hmm, maybe I just learned something. So, you should leave the units in front of FF alone?

I see the logic; move, no dps, majority of units die anyway so why not max their potential dps..

While I have you here Avilo :D around what army supply is the money shot time/supply for Terran to drop ghost academy? It seems to be around 90-110 in a pure bio army, roughly ofc.

p.s. totally big fan, been watching you since BETA. TRIPLE STRIKE NUKE BABY! WOO

Where is your fan club??
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
MrRicewife
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-20 04:35:30
February 20 2011 04:35 GMT
#8
double post... noob
So? My dad can beat up your dad. - Jesus
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
12:00
#67
WardiTV1333
IndyStarCraft 177
Rex136
IntoTheiNu 9
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko345
IndyStarCraft 177
Rex 136
SKillous 86
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1825
Soma 891
Stork 773
Larva 756
Mini 745
Hyuk 672
ZerO 385
Snow 309
Sharp 210
Aegong 185
[ Show more ]
BeSt 153
Rush 144
JYJ 134
Hyun 107
EffOrt 82
sorry 80
910 76
Shuttle 67
Pusan 64
Barracks 56
HiyA 48
NotJumperer 46
soO 39
Yoon 38
Sea.KH 37
Mind 34
ToSsGirL 31
zelot 20
Shine 19
ajuk12(nOOB) 15
Sexy 14
Terrorterran 14
Movie 14
Bale 6
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva1429
Dendi671
420jenkins274
XcaliburYe215
BananaSlamJamma161
febbydoto31
League of Legends
C9.Mang0409
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2438
allub226
Other Games
B2W.Neo1970
hiko437
Fuzer 320
Hui .268
Mew2King88
Grubby85
QueenE84
ArmadaUGS45
ZerO(Twitch)16
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick703
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc234
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota238
League of Legends
• Jankos2699
Other Games
• WagamamaTV303
Upcoming Events
OSC
21h 58m
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.