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VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
February 17 2011 19:30 GMT
#1
This is pretty short and to the point.

So the other day I was watching the first episode of BoXeR's Wings and it got me thinking. How can we measure the greatest player ever? We can't.

Why?

This is just how it works. Maynard comes up with worker transfer: Becomes God, Allah, Buddha, or whatever have you. Then Grr... starts using the technique and soon eclipses Maynard.
BoXeR changes terran forever, throwing out builds and micro that blew people's minds all over the fucking walls. NaDa picks up new and improved terran and starts running a damn train on everyone.

So the greatest player is the person who picks up where the last left off, and furthers their ideas?
Well that's a load of horse shit...


This is the reason that I don't think greatness can be measured over long periods of time. You can be definitely be the greatest of a certain time period, that's indisputable.
You can't say Genghis Khan was the best general ever, still that fucker almost dominated all of Eurasia. But you know, death happens...
He changed the face of warfare forever though?


So I propose a form of anarchy where we measure greatness by how much a person revolutionized their respective 'thing'.

Thoughts?

*
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
February 17 2011 19:32 GMT
#2
Wayne Gretzky vs. Michael Jordan vs. Lim Yo Hwan

FIGHT
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 17 2011 19:33 GMT
#3
We stand on the shoulders of giants...
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
February 17 2011 19:58 GMT
#4
i thought people already knew this
you can't name one greatest person in a sport because it's impossible
that's why they always say "greatest of his time"
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
February 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#5
On February 18 2011 04:32 bonifaceviii wrote:
Wayne Gretzky vs. Michael Jordan vs. Lim Yo Hwan

FIGHT

But it isnt even a contest, Boxer would win every time
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
February 17 2011 20:21 GMT
#6
On February 18 2011 05:02 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2011 04:32 bonifaceviii wrote:
Wayne Gretzky vs. Michael Jordan vs. Lim Yo Hwan

FIGHT

But it isnt even a contest, Boxer would win every time


Who are those two other guys?
When I read BoxeR's name somewhere every other name changes into "scrub" or "chobo".
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
VeNoM HaZ Skill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 20:48:48
February 17 2011 20:27 GMT
#7
On February 18 2011 04:58 awu25 wrote:
i thought people already knew this
you can't name one greatest person in a sport because it's impossible
that's why they always say "greatest of his time"


I know, but people are always like Flash is better than BoXeR was, JD>Savior and all that crap and it makes me angry...
#1 MMA fan! I like you too Taeja. Still patiently waiting for the Crown Prince to become the King.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-17 21:25:44
February 17 2011 21:25 GMT
#8
On February 18 2011 05:27 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
I know, but people are always like Flash is better than BoXeR was, JD>Savior and all that crap and it makes me angry...


In a way that is true. They took their things, took them to the next step and added their own things. After a while somebody does it to them.
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