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Starcraft 2 n00b ep. 11 - n00bmaster Wars part 1

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KingOctavious
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 18:18:42
February 09 2011 18:17 GMT
#1
For this episode of Starcraft 2 n00b, I face off against ZiggyD of Learning SC2. Being the two kings of Starcraft 2 n00bdom, we decided to do a best of 5 crossover series. This is the first game of that series. I’ll be posting one of these a week so as not to disrupt the normal flow of SC2N too much.

There are a lot of problems here, mostly with my laughable unit composition. On Ziggy's side, looks like he needs to work on unit production and on keeping his minerals low. Granted, this match does go on for a while with both of us taking nearly every expansion on the map, but his minerals get up to nearly 10,000 at one point.

Still, for Bronze, I think this is a pretty good game. Even if there is a lot of sitting and waiting.

Replay with commentary in two parts, here and here.

Lessons learned:

1. Keep your head in the game. There's no excuse for going speedling-heavy/roach-supporting against mass stalkers, and there is no excuse for going mass hydras against mass stalkers. This was probably the result of me getting flustered and just spamming random units. I really don't know what happened there.

2. Do better scouting! I scouted his base approximately once the whole match.

3. Take advantage of speedlings' speed. Speedlings offer great map control, but instead I used them as part of my main army. There are a number of expansions I could have taken out with them, but instead they sit around and do nothing most of the time, then are annihilated when I try attacking with them.

4. Take advantage of speedlings' ability to flank. This is something I try to do often, but in this match I fail. I try running them in with the rest of my army, so not only do I not catch Ziggy off-guard with them, but they also get caught up behind my roaches at choke points.

5. When minerals get super high, it never hurts to build an extra hatchery, or even some defensive structures.

PS - Apologies for the nasally voice. I've been getting colds on nearly a weekly basis lately. I blame it on my two-year-old.

Check out my book, The Year in StarCraft II: 2011, http://yearinsc2.com/ :D:D
me_viet
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia1350 Posts
February 09 2011 22:33 GMT
#2
hydras destroy stalkers ? =S

So do speedlings actually. Takes 4 shots from a stalker to even kill a ling.
KingOctavious
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
February 10 2011 05:14 GMT
#3
On February 10 2011 07:33 me_viet wrote:
hydras destroy stalkers ? =S

So do speedlings actually. Takes 4 shots from a stalker to even kill a ling.


Hydras do kill stalkers if they're behind roaches, right?

I didn't know that about speedlings. The problem, though, is when you come across a stalker ball. There are so many that the speedlings get taken out before they do significant damage.
Check out my book, The Year in StarCraft II: 2011, http://yearinsc2.com/ :D:D
ZiggyD
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia64 Posts
February 11 2011 11:03 GMT
#4
Hydra/roach usually gives me the most dramas when I got Stalker heavy. Keep in mind this is beginner level, any micro that factors into higher level play doesn't apply ^^

I quite like your casting style btw, even if you do get a bit muddled sometimes ;-) It's even quite funny at times.
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KingOctavious
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States324 Posts
February 11 2011 19:04 GMT
#5
On February 11 2011 20:03 ZiggyD wrote:
Hydra/roach usually gives me the most dramas when I got Stalker heavy. Keep in mind this is beginner level, any micro that factors into higher level play doesn't apply ^^

I quite like your casting style btw, even if you do get a bit muddled sometimes ;-) It's even quite funny at times.


Cool, I'm just glad I can cloud my ineloquent ramblings in humor.
Check out my book, The Year in StarCraft II: 2011, http://yearinsc2.com/ :D:D
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