EPT[poll] Have you ever considered suicide? - Page 3
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KurtistheTurtle
United States1966 Posts
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Kashmir
New Zealand178 Posts
I'm really glad I decided to make the decision to live. I've had an amazing life so far and it would have been a shame to waste such a grand adventure. Although I feel I'll never ever go there again I can't look down on people who contemplate/commit suicide. I remember what it feels like to be that desperate. People who pretend to be suicidal in order to get attention and sympathy sicken me. | ||
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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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Versita
Canada1032 Posts
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
Well I didn't seriously consider it, but I did think about doing it for no particular reason, just to massively troll people. But pretty much all suicides are completely unexpected so it wouldn't work, they'd just think I was depressed. What the hell are you talking about, if your talking about joking about killing your self I don't expect many people to find it funny. Maybe if you just really wanted some attention otherwise I don't understand. How is saying your going to kill your self or even actually killing your self trolling someone? It just sounds emo to me, I wanna kill myself please pay attention to me. That comment doesn't apply to anyone whos actually considered sucide for real. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On February 01 2011 14:41 .Aar wrote: I was watching an anime called "Welcome to the NHK," and + Show Spoiler + Both the manga and the book have a much more serious take on suicide and depression. It's really easy to say all these motivational things, but they amount to nothing when a person is actually faced with it. Especially given the fact that the character development for those people you've listed is done in a single episode... In the book, that scene does not even exist. In the manga it's more fleshed out and has a totally different conclusion. Don't get me wrong, the anime was fun, but it was definitely toned down for a TV audience  [spoiler=book and manga]The overall picture you get from these, especially the book, is that Misaki and Satou are both just too scared to die. There is never a time when either of them aren't running away from something. When they do something 'impulsive' you realise it is more out of avoidance of what is currently scaring them than anything else. They never seem to be satisfied with just being, and that's what suicide really is. Not cause you couldn't become a doctor, or your parents had to pay a huge fine that wasn't your fault... Those are both incredibly stupid reasons to suicide and the author admits that. In amidst all the dark humour there is a seriously sad conclusion for Welcome to the N.H.K.So yeah... It's just of juvenile to point at people with a few petty problems and then compare it to someone's overall life. Nobody commits suicide cause their girlfriend broke up with them. They do it because their whole world is broken. I suppose some people make their girlfriend their whole world, but time easily fixes a wound like that On February 01 2011 23:01 Greg_J wrote: What the hell are you talking about, if your talking about joking about killing your self I don't expect many people to find it funny. Maybe if you just really wanted some attention otherwise I don't understand. How is saying your going to kill your self or even actually killing your self trolling someone? It just sounds emo to me, I wanna kill myself please pay attention to me. That comment doesn't apply to anyone whos actually considered sucide for real. I don't think it's meant to be funny, he's just describing another random thought everyone has. It's like have you ever thought about (as an adult) hitting someone you don't like? Of course you have, but you can imagine the consequences and not do it. People day dream about every random thing, they're not really responsible for those thoughts. It's planning and considering and evaluating and then still wanting to that you're responsible for. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
Absolutely, but it's the ultimate selfish act. I'd never act upon it while those who care about me are still alive. Can be furthered to include possible children and grandchildren. If I don't have children and am devoid of family later in life, my plan would be to enjoy it as much as I can until my body deteriorates to the point where any joy that can be had is outweighed by illness; if you don't have the support of family and friends, I wouldn't really see the point of living if every moment is filled with pain. I've matured a lot in my thoughts on the subject over the years, I think. My childhood had a lot of good, but quite a bit more bad to it. I had seriously contemplated it when I was 11 or 12, when things were the worst. My father was a selfish asshole who was mixed up with meth, but I never doubted that he loved me, as selfish as he was; he died when I was 11, and I had a batch of mixed emotions. Know it's not normal, but part of me was certainly happy; while the other part realized that it was a big loss, and my life would always lose some structure, love, and discipline. Though things were really bad the last couple years he was alive, they may have gotten even worse after he died. I was left with my mom, who has always been amazing; but she already worked herself to death, and didn't take care of her needs. My sister and ex-sister-in-law, who were both caught up in meth just as much as my dad was. And they were even worse in many aspects. Then my brother, whom I love dearly, but he was just as naive as my mother in the drugs and all. I first brought the drug use to their attention when I was 6-7, but it was always shrugged off; at one point, when I brought it up again with my mom, my brother said he didn't really want anything to do with a kid (who was 11 or so at the time) who had to constantly lie about his wife. On a note I find funny now, I was very withdrawn at this age, and suffered from chronic health problems that were debilitating. I had so many MRIs, EEGs, EKGs, and probably some other tests that I don't recall anymore. I was in the Doctor's office at least twice a week and tried maybe 20-30 different medications over a two year period. Depression was ruled out almost immediately in a conversation that went like this: *in the examination room with my mom sitting right next to me* Doctor: Have you ever considered thoughts of suicide? Me: Uh... *looking over at my mom*.... no. Doctor: It's not Depression. | ||
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Nytefish
United Kingdom4282 Posts
On February 01 2011 23:01 Greg_J wrote: What the hell are you talking about, if your talking about joking about killing your self I don't expect many people to find it funny. Maybe if you just really wanted some attention otherwise I don't understand. How is saying your going to kill your self or even actually killing your self trolling someone? I don't think you understand what I meant by "trolling". It doesn't always mean making people laugh. What I meant is that initially I thought it would really confuse and puzzle people, i.e. create an unsolvable mystery. | ||
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
Gang Starr - moment of truth: Seems that life is just a constant war between good and evil The situation that I'm facin, is mad amazin to think such problems can arise from minor confrontations Now I'm contemplatin in my bedroom pacin Dark clouds over my head, my heart's racin Suicide? Nah, I'm not a foolish guy Don't even feel like drinking, or even gettin high Cause all that's gonna do really, is accelerate the anxieties that I wish I could alleviate But wait, I've been through a whole lot of other shit, before So I oughta be able, to withstand some more But I'm sweatin though, my eyes are turnin red and yo I'm ready to lose my mind but instead I use my mind I put down the knife, and take the bullets out my nine Im not a type who even thinks about suicide but well my best friend who is for me MORE than my own brother get really massed up one day and he wanted to jump from a bridge. I was damn lucky that I find out where he is and convince him not to do it. You would never say that he will do some crazy shit like that but he just couldnt see his parents getting divorce. You guys should stop thinking like this. You are awesome and believe me you are not in deep shit because you are still able to read TL. | ||
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oBlade
United States6171 Posts
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On February 02 2011 00:51 Chef wrote:When they do something 'impulsive' you realise it is more out of avoidance of what is currently scaring them than anything else. They never seem to be satisfied with just being, and that's what suicide really is. Not cause you couldn't become a doctor, or your parents had to pay a huge fine that wasn't your fault... Those are both incredibly stupid reasons to suicide and the author admits that. In amidst all the dark humour there is a seriously sad conclusion for Welcome to the N.H.K. On February 02 2011 00:51 Chef wrote: So yeah... It's just of juvenile to point at people with a few petty problems and then compare it to someone's overall life. Nobody commits suicide cause their girlfriend broke up with them. They do it because their whole world is broken. I suppose some people make their girlfriend their whole world, but time easily fixes a wound like that I disagree. "Stupid" events like these can be the trigger into descent or impulsive action; they don't necessarily need to be the end-all cause. Also, you seem to have missed the rather central point about "tunnel vision." It would behoove you to actually read posts. yay for calling people on the internet juvenile | ||
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-Frog-
United States514 Posts
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Greg_J
China4409 Posts
What the hell are you talking about, if your talking about joking about killing your self I don't expect many people to find it funny. Maybe if you just really wanted some attention otherwise I don't understand. How is saying your going to kill your self or even actually killing your self trolling someone? O.K I was unneccesarily agresive in this post, Sorry. I take back the attitude but I still don't really understand what you mean. someone said you meant just imageing what would happen. I guess thats valid, we all think random things some times. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
This is the exact rationale I came up with (minus the specifics about the 5000 miles). I actually went at one point to a sick fantasy where I killed both my parents simultaneously painlessly so I could off myself, but I'd think people think a lot of sick things in the midst of negativity. | ||
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