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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
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fold
Australia665 Posts
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sharky246
1197 Posts
On January 27 2011 17:58 fold wrote: Can someone explain what this "reconciliation" is? I don't see KPF posting anything other than saying how it's too late to reconcile. It seems like they are hiding something. This reconciliation (which hasn't happened yet) is ending the conflict between roffles and craton so that he can stream again. Waiting for the roffles side of the story, if he posts it that is. | ||
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Fushin
France193 Posts
On January 27 2011 18:05 frodoguy wrote: This reconciliation (which hasn't happened yet) is ending the conflict between roffles and craton so that he can stream again. Waiting for the roffles side of the story, if he posts it that is. This is assuming KPF wants to reconcile. I don't think they mind that Craton left, quite the opposite. | ||
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
On January 27 2011 17:58 fold wrote: Can someone explain what this "reconciliation" is? I don't see KPF posting anything other than saying how it's too late to reconcile. It seems like they are hiding something. What should they hide??? | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
2) I also have 0 privileges when it comes to managing access to streams. I, like you, cannot whitelist myself, nor can I whitelist anyone else. I recognize that I am being thrown under the bus for this, but rest assured that I did not do any of this. I will not deny that I might have had some influence in this, but in the end, the decision making is not done by me, but rather by higher ups that have access to configure stream privileges. I won't deny that we've had some issues in the past, but for the most part I have stuck up for you when others were pretty much shitting on you (Remember the 4 gate incident?). Hell, I was the guy who made you op in the first place back on Invision boards. But I won't deny that there have been incidents where things have fallen apart. I do admire your dedication to streaming for TL, but throwing me under the bus like this when you haven't even attempted to talk it out with us is kind of low don't you think? I wouldn't have cared if I really did what you claimed I did, but it kind of does hurt when you wake up, and there's a thread on how I basically exiled you, when I didn't. You seem to feel as if it's just a conflict between you and me. Yes, I won't deny there's a rift because you clearly don't like me, and I really just don't give a fuck lol. But I'm as powerless as you are, so you clearly must have rifts between yourself and others. The situation is much larger than just you vs me. I don't really care about this thread. Shit happens, and yeah, it makes sense to rant about it at times. I don't blame you at all. But what does irk me is that you made absolutely zero effort to talk it over with me. If you're gonna throw me under the bus, at least attempt to PM me (I do read TL), or MSN/AIM me (I have been online), and talk it over first. Then if you really do think that it's beyond repair, then feel free to make this thread. I'd take the heat 100% if you did this, and you still believed that I was at fault. Oh btw, here's the IRC log from when I supposedly kicked someone in your chat. I know better than to kick admins in your chat. It's not my fault Ustream doesn't like flooding. + Show Spoiler + [04:22] * orangemilkis was kicked by chat06.ustream.tv (Flooding (Limit is 3 lines per 5 seconds)) [04:22] <+crazeh> ghetto tryhards [04:22] <+nanashinKTFingerboom> Spoiler: The boulder wins. [04:22] <+crazeh> but big bang is dope [04:22] <+deafhobbit> remember, its not like they have good music. this is it [04:22] <+mustaju> That would fit almost any Oz match except for this one [04:22] <+MyLifeForBroodWar> I wish I can understand korean like Milkis  [04:22] * ustreamer-47880 is now known as orangemilkis [04:22] * chat06.ustream.tv sets mode: +v orangemilkis [04:22] * chat06.ustream.tv sets mode: +v orangemilkis [04:22] <+orangemilkis> craton control the kicks please [04:23] <+Charuru> oh i like this guy [04:23] <+orangemilkis> how am i suppoosed to spam and bash bad kpop [04:23] <+Charuru> he isn't toally lame [04:23] <+orangemilkis> if i get kicked every 5 lines [04:23] <+FatCat91> sick lip synch skillz [04:23] <~Cratonz> Don't blame me [04:23] <+nanashinKTFingerboom> I wish I could understand death metal barks like Boes. [04:23] <+FatCat91> 1337 [04:23] * Cratonz sets mode: -o Selffor [04:23] <+orangemilkis> should i blame roffles instead [04:23] * Cratonz sets mode: +o orangemilkis [04:23] <~Cratonz> Probably [04:23] <@orangemilkis> but this is seriously a bad song and terribad lyrics [04:23] <+Selffor> ? [04:23] <+Selffor> i didnt kick anything I was then de-op'd for doing nothing. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On January 27 2011 16:39 lokiM wrote: LOL, this is hilarious.. I love how you only post a part of only 1 of the many conversations You just take shit way too seriously, and to prove it your post only further indicates that you're a huge dick. Ironic. | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
On January 27 2011 16:42 T.O.P. wrote: The problem was that you gradually grew more distant from the staff at kpf. You're rarely on irc, even when you're clearly online (streaming). When you're on irc, you're a dick to everyone there. Have some respect for other people. Eventually it came to a point where people would say, "Why the fuck is this guy using our bandwidth?" That's why you're banned. If you cared about anyone at kpf, you wouldn't have posted this. Id just like to ask why you didnt bring this up with him earlier, sent a pm, or done anything except let it pile up, from what ive see Craton had no idea how bad things were, and a talk before all of this might have solved it all. Also banning someone/taking away access without sending an explanation or anything is not really nice, if Craton couldn't get the reasons the other way, I dont see why he shoud not have made this thread. But in the end, these are you private affairs, even though they affect the community at large, and im sure there is a whole lot to your side too, it just irks me to see *we didnt like you, and you should have stayed quiet*. I simply feel this could have been avoided with talking and not letting it all pile up for no reason. all this powergaming and bullshit is below you fine tl.net members (all of you). EDIT: well now that Roffles has filled out his post it makes more sense. Theres really no way for me to judge who did what and who is at fault because these are your private affairs, I just wish it could have somehow been solved without all this conflict, as im sure all of you do too. | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On January 27 2011 21:27 besiger wrote: Id just like to ask why you didnt bring this up with him earlier, sent a pm, or done anything except let it pile up, from what ive see Craton had no idea how bad things were, and a talk before all of this might have solved it all. Also banning someone/taking away access without sending an explanation or anything is not really nice, if Craton couldn't get the reasons the other way, I dont see why he shoud not have made this thread. But in the end, these are you private affairs, even though they affect the community at large, I simply feel this could have been avoided with talking and not letting it all pile up for no reason. all this powergaming and bullshit is below you fine tl.net members (all of you). I talked to Craton on msn the same day he was banned. I told him to be patient and come back when it blows over and that he should be tactful when he comes back. But he decided to martyr himself instead. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
I still see that reconciliation is possible. All it takes is a couple of guys to consume a couple man-pride potions and throw a few apologies back and forth. I think we (TL) basically want dedicated SCBW streamers streaming matches. Sucks it had to come down to this, but maybe this is for the better. Hope it all works out guys! | ||
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Chaos
United States772 Posts
On January 27 2011 15:13 Craton wrote: I didn't diss you? You're my 2nd favorite person from KPF. I'm #1 right. I really wasn't around on irc for any of this either so I can't say I know any details of it. I know it seemed like there was some distinct tension growing between Craton and the group but that was all I picked up when popping in and out of irc. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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cocoa_sg
Singapore296 Posts
What I get from this is that there was a severe LACK of communication between the parties involved. No one knew who exactly was banning/kicking/de-oping who, and Craton was on the receiving end (and the giving end as well). His attitude may have been anti-reconciliatory since the banning, but there is no need to burn off all bridges permanently just because of this. If I were him, I would be fuming with anger at myself and others regardless of what they did, after such an incident. I would even have put up such a blog as well, even if martyring myself in the process... Please, do this for the TL community. We appreciate Craton's amazing devotion to BW streaming, especially on less important PL days when no one else is streaming, and if he is out of the picture, there will be quite a void in the TL streams at least until someone else picks up his reins. Get back together, folks! =3 | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On January 27 2011 23:50 McDonalds wrote: Every time I've visited KPopFlash or entered a Starcraft stream chat associated with KPopFlash it's just been an endless parade of moderators being irate for no reason and shitting out bad jokes at the expense of the viewers or each other. That's the public face you guys are putting on your activities. Maybe you won't have these kinds of problems if you stop being such try-hards all the time. That sums it up for me. I know it is none of our business, but somethings just come off as petty. The fact this blog can exist is sad. | ||
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PUPATREE
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Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
Airing dirty laundry like this is a pretty weak move. The teamliquid post you referenced where you complain about reposts makes you look really bad. The comment about there being over 1TB of unused bandwidth remaining also makes you look bad. It seems like you are of the opinion that leftovers should be given out for free. I can see where the kpf group are coming from. If they pay for something and distribute it to members who no longer appreciate or respect them, of course they are justified in revoking access. Anyway, I can't say anything further since I don't know the entire situation, but it does suck that you won't be streaming BW anymore. | ||
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