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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 27 2011 07:41 GMT
#41
On January 27 2011 16:35 infinitestory wrote:
EDIT:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 16:07 Megaliskuu wrote:
Way to quickstriker it craton :/

way too premature a judgment IMO, unless you have something to add


I actually don't have anything to add, but he really did quickstricker it, chatlog+emo post. Only difference is that craton actually did useful stuff for the community.

+ Show Spoiler +
I still wub u qs
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 27 2011 07:42 GMT
#42
Ugh, can't we all just get along?

First Violet and now this
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 07:48:57
January 27 2011 07:42 GMT
#43
On January 27 2011 16:15 Craton wrote:
I also don't contest that I had my share of conflicts in the past. However, the ultimate reason was not "Craton keeps being a dick" -- saying that much is disingenuous.

The problem was that you gradually grew more distant from the staff at kpf. You're rarely on irc, even when you're clearly online (streaming). When you're on irc, you're a dick to everyone there. Have some respect for other people. Eventually it came to a point where people would say, "Why the fuck is this guy using our bandwidth?" That's why you're banned.

If you cared about anyone at kpf, you wouldn't have posted this.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 27 2011 07:44 GMT
#44
OSL finals in a couple days ! it would be a blow to the community if we didnt have streams!
starleague forever
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
January 27 2011 07:45 GMT
#45
On January 27 2011 16:42 T.O.P. wrote:
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On January 27 2011 16:15 Craton wrote:
I also don't contest that I had my share of conflicts in the past. However, the ultimate reason was not "Craton keeps being a dick" -- saying that much is disingenuous.

The problem was that you gradually grew more distant from the staff at kpf. You're rarely on irc, even when you're clearly online (streaming). When you're on irc, you're a dick to everyone there. Have some respect for other people. Eventually it came to a point where people would say, "Why the fuck is this guy using our bandwidth?" That's why you're banned.

To be fair, I seem to remember Craton leaving his stream on when he went to sleep several times... which caused much hilarity over "NOOOO SWITCH GAMES " in the past
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
January 27 2011 07:47 GMT
#46
On January 27 2011 16:44 a176 wrote:
OSL finals in a couple days ! it would be a blow to the community if we didnt have streams!

No need to worry, there would be plenty.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 27 2011 07:49 GMT
#47
On January 27 2011 16:44 a176 wrote:
OSL finals in a couple days ! it would be a blow to the community if we didnt have streams!


OSL should be fine i know xsebt gets the official stream with no problems, and he'll probably be on for something taht important. ITs the msl streams that are harder. theres no official stream, only people who can restream the chinese plu streams(they need an amazing connection for that) or use afreeca (aka fedor) can get it.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
January 27 2011 07:49 GMT
#48
On January 27 2011 16:44 a176 wrote:
OSL finals in a couple days ! it would be a blow to the community if we didnt have streams!

Major events will always have streams; you don't have to worry about that. It's the regular games that go unseen.

The problem was that you gradually grew more distant from the staff at kpf. You're rarely on irc, even when you're clearly online (streaming). When you're on irc, you're a dick to everyone there. Have some respect for other people.

I'd say being banned from IRC is abrupt, more so than gradual. That's an excuse, either way; all of you had me on MSN or AIM. There was never a "hey, come on IRC while you're streaming;" expecting mind-reading is a bit too much to ask for.

Eventually it came to a point where people would say, "Why the fuck is this guy using our bandwidth?" That's why you're banned.

Perhaps, insofar as you own the site. But on the same token, there was still >1tb of bandwidth left unused every month, so making it sound like streaming BW was costing you anything is misleading.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 27 2011 07:56 GMT
#49
I wish this website had a function where you could send messages to users privately without having others having to see this nonsense, get on it r1ch!
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
January 27 2011 07:57 GMT
#50
I just hope this gets resolved soon. Craton is a huge contributor to the BW community.
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
January 27 2011 07:59 GMT
#51
On January 27 2011 16:57 vectorix108 wrote:
I just hope this gets resolved soon. Craton is a huge contributor to the BW community.

Like they said, reconciliation is impossible now because of the appearance of this blog.
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
January 27 2011 08:03 GMT
#52
So much drama.

Ahh fuck it really sucks that you can't stream anymore. Definitely appreciated the free service you provided. Lately it's been quite difficult to find high quality streamers for MBC-channel related games. ;(

Hope everything works out.
Ixas
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 08:07:37
January 27 2011 08:06 GMT
#53
nvm
Ixas.parkjiyeon.net
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
January 27 2011 08:06 GMT
#54
On January 27 2011 16:56 Megaliskuu wrote:
I wish this website had a function where you could send messages to users privately without having others having to see this nonsense, get on it r1ch!

it's called private messaging? and this is a forum, i bet there are sections and threads where only mods are able to view, they arent, so they dont..
대지따라 돌린게 시간이다.. 흘러가고 돌아오지도 않고..
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
January 27 2011 08:06 GMT
#55
On January 27 2011 17:06 Ixas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 17:03 Amnesia wrote:
So much drama.

Ahh fuck it really sucks that you can't stream anymore. Definitely appreciated the free service you provided. Lately it's been quite difficult to find high quality streamers for MBC-channel related games. ;(

Hope everything works out.

Sure it cost him and you nothing, but server cost kpf 100+ a month.

oh shit haha didn't know that
KTF_CloaK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1338 Posts
January 27 2011 08:08 GMT
#56
First violet and now this? Goddammit...

Cant we just get along and let craton stream or he will have a giant hole in the community because of proleague macthes not being streamed anymore and i do not want to wake up at 5 in the morning (CEST) on schooldays to see noone is streaming...
KT Rolster for the win!! Lee-Young-Ho hwaiting!!
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
January 27 2011 08:25 GMT
#57
Please please tell me you're not comparing this situation to somebody getting cancer.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
January 27 2011 08:28 GMT
#58
On January 27 2011 17:06 kaleidoscope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2011 16:56 Megaliskuu wrote:
I wish this website had a function where you could send messages to users privately without having others having to see this nonsense, get on it r1ch!

it's called private messaging? and this is a forum, i bet there are sections and threads where only mods are able to view, they arent, so they dont..

He was saying that more tongue-in-cheek than literally :p.
twitch.tv/cratonz
ace246
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia360 Posts
January 27 2011 08:45 GMT
#59
In my chat I had three mods, one of which was Roffles.

Dude, i think roffles was willing to move on from that incident, if he was as heartbroken as you were, he wouldn't have touched on your stream, let alone modding it. So there actually was a chance for reconciliation, but you turned it down. I also think you need to realise that as much as you are a well-known contributor, roffles has a higher status than you, so doing the "an eye for an eye" isn't gonna fare well for you. Too bad this had to happen to a BW streamer, cause thats rather scarce in TL.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 08:47:54
January 27 2011 08:47 GMT
#60
Knowing ruffles he probably did it to piss craton off rofl. Or I am 100% wrong, idk.
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