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I will not play mirrors

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oesis
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
117 Posts
January 27 2011 05:03 GMT
#1
Anyways I despise mirrors, not only are they balanced so I can't complain against imba(I don't actually complain bout imba), but I tend to lose most of them. Maybe worst of all they are really boring...

Anyways what is the solution???

I have decided not to play then. Now you may be asking how is this possible its like I know how to effect blizzards matchmaking, wink wink. Well I don't. So instead I just resign whenever I run into a mirror game. In theory if I win 100% of non-mirror games I can still go up in rating.

Now this has had some negative effects on me, mainly it made me go from masters to diamond.

Though I swear blizzard tries to give me as many mirrors as possible, oh well, i will not be broken.

Anyways to show my seriousness here is my match history, most of the losses are from resigning, seriously how does blizzard give me so many mirrors......


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ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
January 27 2011 05:07 GMT
#2
You are a genius! You will also get more achievements this way!
Jaedong :3
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
January 27 2011 05:08 GMT
#3
I'll let it slide because you're a good poster, but don't make all-caps titles.
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
January 27 2011 05:09 GMT
#4
Hahaha, if it were allowed, I would like to try race-picking and playing ZvP instead of PvP. However, blizz interferes too much with SC2's ladder. What can you do?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
January 27 2011 05:14 GMT
#5
ZvZ isn't boring, just aggravating most of the time. (I have no clue what I'm doing, took too long a break recently :p).

Awesome idea though haha. Show Blizzard who's boss!
you gotta dance
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
January 27 2011 05:16 GMT
#6
Mirror matches are the most fun MU's...
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
January 27 2011 05:18 GMT
#7
Mirrors are the easiest to get good at. Here's the easy solution:

Every time you lose a mirror, watch the replay. See what the opponent does, practice that, and do it the next game. If he can beat you doing what he did, you can beat other people.

TvT is my favorite matchup in Brood War (I'm weird like that), because I did exactly this.
안지호
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
January 27 2011 05:20 GMT
#8
What race do you play? If it's protoss, I can understand. After the Inca vs Anypro 4-gate vs 4-gate match, I wanted to claw my eyes out. If you're terran, I don't quite understand since TvT is not too bad to play.
eight.BiT
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States240 Posts
January 27 2011 05:34 GMT
#9
ZvZ is personally my favorite mirror. TvT tank viking is very boring, and in PvP 4wg is a drag. I have a lot more fun in ZvZ.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 27 2011 05:43 GMT
#10
You must be a protoss, that matchup is driving me insane
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
January 27 2011 05:46 GMT
#11
if u hate it, why dont u just 7pool every game?

i mean its easy to do and its pretty much a coin flip for winning or losing. game will be over in 3 minutes that way neways, and at least u might actually win some games.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
January 27 2011 05:46 GMT
#12
I love zvz.

I think I have a psychological edge in the mu too when my opponents complain and I tell them that.
oesis
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
117 Posts
January 27 2011 06:12 GMT
#13
Sorry about the caps title.

Also currently I play toss, though I have played all 3 races a fair amount and I can say I hate all 3 mirror match ups.

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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
January 27 2011 06:14 GMT
#14
Oh man.. PvP can definitely make a man unhappy.
Commentatorhttp://twitter.com/proxywolf
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 06:37:32
January 27 2011 06:36 GMT
#15
I personally love mirror matches. They are IMO the truest reflection of skill possible.

Sparring bio squads amidst tank lines and aircraft duking it out for air supremacy, while having to watch for drops at home and sneaking scouts around.. so tense. So fun. TvTs are awesome.
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
feaynnewedd
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany41 Posts
January 27 2011 06:43 GMT
#16
I don't know about that, I love mirrors! As a terran player who seems to not really understand the game, at the very beginning of SCII (the game, not the beta), I quickly moved to diamond with the "IMBA" terrans, losing to P and Z a lot but winning all of my TvT's, which is still my very best matchup. I just loved it if ppl started saying "t imba" when I finally won ONE non-mirror game because I killed T and died to the other races.

Maybe I should play the other races to understand their restrictions, but I cannot bring myself to do so... I just love the rusty metal and stimpacks.... hmmmm
Dinotoss hwaiting!
oesis
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
117 Posts
January 27 2011 06:48 GMT
#17
Mirror matchups may be a true test of skill, but I tend to think most people at my rating have better micro and macro than me. So in straight up fights like mirror matchups where everything is fair I tend to lose.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 27 2011 06:54 GMT
#18
pvp 4 gate vs 4 gate is junk =_=
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
SiegeFlank
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States410 Posts
January 27 2011 06:58 GMT
#19
TvT is actually a really fun and dynamic matchup. Watch Jinro v MKP in the code S semis.The matchup supports a lot of different playstyles, from slower, more muscular styles to highly mobile hit and run styles. You can open with virtually anything, so long as you can transition well and be able to deal with the more problematic openings (i.e. banshee harass).
Bird up
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
January 27 2011 07:01 GMT
#20
my personal experience is that the AMM keeps giving me matchups that i've recently been losing in. when i was on a tvt loss streak i'd get like 10 tvts in a row. now i'm getting nothing but tvp in my last 10 games and i've been losing them all.
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