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SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 16 2011 04:09 GMT
#21
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.
My other car is a battlecruiser.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
January 16 2011 04:29 GMT
#22
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...
Wahaha
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#23
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.

are you kidding me? you obviously don't know how hard it is to get B on iccup
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
January 16 2011 04:38 GMT
#24
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


QXC is B level in iccup so there's a lot of QXC's? more like C- and D+ high in master league. I have to admit i don't care about master's league but definitely I'm still more in to improving than being ranked in some league. Also, quite funny that some of the stagnant diamond players are back and playing lol
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 16 2011 04:42 GMT
#25
On January 16 2011 13:29 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...

I'm actually cerious about how many people where still playing broodwar this last couple years. I know I was able to go from D to D+ with only a couple dozen games while in SC2 it took me hundreds of games to get into diamond and hundereds more and I'm nowhere near masters. There is millions of people actively playing sc2 and only around 10 000 masters. Was the percent of people who were actively playing bw and were above C+ less than .5%?
My other car is a battlecruiser.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 04:48:05
January 16 2011 04:47 GMT
#26
On January 16 2011 13:42 SCdinner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:29 aike wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...

I'm actually cerious about how many people where still playing broodwar this last couple years. I know I was able to go from D to D+ with only a couple dozen games while in SC2 it took me hundreds of games to get into diamond and hundereds more and I'm nowhere near masters. There is millions of people actively playing sc2 and only around 10 000 masters. Was the percent of people who were actively playing bw and were above C+ less than .5%?

did you play protoss in bw? because D+ protoss isn't the same as D+ terran or D+ zerg for sure, protoss is generally undisputedly easier to play at lower levels in bw. i could get to C on riding on PvT, whereas I could barely hold C- with any other matchups. also getting to D+ was pretty easy if you could execute an all-in well, but that doesn't really reflect true skill either
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-16 04:51:52
January 16 2011 04:51 GMT
#27
also in general: for people not getting into masters: if you generally for, say, every set of 20 games, go 10-10, it's likely you're not improving. blizzard's point system is designed such that anybody who masses games enough can be at the top of their division, but the visible points aren't especially related to skill. if you really want to improve, hunker down with some decent practice partners (optimally above your level) and work at working out the kinks in your game, smoothing out your build orders, and improving mechanics. that's the best surefire way to improve, imo.
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SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 16 2011 04:52 GMT
#28
On January 16 2011 13:47 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:42 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:29 aike wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...

I'm actually cerious about how many people where still playing broodwar this last couple years. I know I was able to go from D to D+ with only a couple dozen games while in SC2 it took me hundreds of games to get into diamond and hundereds more and I'm nowhere near masters. There is millions of people actively playing sc2 and only around 10 000 masters. Was the percent of people who were actively playing bw and were above C+ less than .5%?

did you play protoss in bw? because D+ protoss isn't the same as D+ terran or D+ zerg for sure, protoss is generally undisputedly easier to play at lower levels in bw. i could get to C on riding on PvT, whereas I could barely hold C- with any other matchups. also getting to D+ was pretty easy if you could execute an all-in well, but that doesn't really reflect true skill either

I was zerg. I always did a 2 hatch muta regardless of if they were terran or protoss and if it was zerg I'd try to end it right before the muta came up because my antiscourge micro was crappy. I played against my friends a lot but had very little iccup experience but I know I was crappy and am certain I am much MUCH better at starcraft 2.
My other car is a battlecruiser.
aike
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1629 Posts
January 16 2011 05:02 GMT
#29
On January 16 2011 13:42 SCdinner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:29 aike wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...

I'm actually cerious about how many people where still playing broodwar this last couple years. I know I was able to go from D to D+ with only a couple dozen games while in SC2 it took me hundreds of games to get into diamond and hundereds more and I'm nowhere near masters. There is millions of people actively playing sc2 and only around 10 000 masters. Was the percent of people who were actively playing bw and were above C+ less than .5%?


I know for a fact I was never anywhere near B level on iCCup, maybe C if I played a lot, but I never got enough games in to even get to D+ (Like maybe 6 to 10 games a season lol) but in SC2 I was in diamond in less than 30 games and when masters started I was in it in 2 games. So if I can get it I feel it's safe to say masters league is for anybody who could get at least C- on iCCup.
Wahaha
SCdinner
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada516 Posts
January 16 2011 05:08 GMT
#30
On January 16 2011 14:02 aike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 13:42 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:29 aike wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...

I'm actually cerious about how many people where still playing broodwar this last couple years. I know I was able to go from D to D+ with only a couple dozen games while in SC2 it took me hundreds of games to get into diamond and hundereds more and I'm nowhere near masters. There is millions of people actively playing sc2 and only around 10 000 masters. Was the percent of people who were actively playing bw and were above C+ less than .5%?


I know for a fact I was never anywhere near B level on iCCup, maybe C if I played a lot, but I never got enough games in to even get to D+ (Like maybe 6 to 10 games a season lol) but in SC2 I was in diamond in less than 30 games and when masters started I was in it in 2 games. So if I can get it I feel it's safe to say masters league is for anybody who could get at least C- on iCCup.

From what it sounds like iccup wasn't evenly distributed. I get the impression its like .02% of people are in A, 0.2% of people are in B, 2% of people are in C and 97.69% of people where in D.
My other car is a battlecruiser.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
January 16 2011 06:44 GMT
#31
On January 16 2011 14:08 SCdinner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2011 14:02 aike wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:42 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:29 aike wrote:
On January 16 2011 13:09 SCdinner wrote:
On January 16 2011 07:26 blabber wrote:
You're C- iccup. You're already the sc2 equivalent of god level

I was way better at SC2 when I was platinum than I was at BW when I was D+. Master league in SC2 is about B level in iccup.


You underestimate how few people there actually were in the B and high levels on iCCup...

I'm actually cerious about how many people where still playing broodwar this last couple years. I know I was able to go from D to D+ with only a couple dozen games while in SC2 it took me hundreds of games to get into diamond and hundereds more and I'm nowhere near masters. There is millions of people actively playing sc2 and only around 10 000 masters. Was the percent of people who were actively playing bw and were above C+ less than .5%?


I know for a fact I was never anywhere near B level on iCCup, maybe C if I played a lot, but I never got enough games in to even get to D+ (Like maybe 6 to 10 games a season lol) but in SC2 I was in diamond in less than 30 games and when masters started I was in it in 2 games. So if I can get it I feel it's safe to say masters league is for anybody who could get at least C- on iCCup.

From what it sounds like iccup wasn't evenly distributed. I get the impression its like .02% of people are in A, 0.2% of people are in B, 2% of people are in C and 97.69% of people where in D.

yep, pretty common knowledge among us bwers/ex-bwers
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RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
January 16 2011 07:05 GMT
#32
I was D+ in ICCUP and somehow i'm stuck in Silver in SC2 lol count yourself lucky you got in masters!
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
January 16 2011 07:08 GMT
#33
Clearly you have a good shot at being the next GSL winner.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 16 2011 08:57 GMT
#34
Same I was D+/C- Zerg but when i played Terran i got into silver. zzz, however when i played Zerg again it felt soo natural...
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Wfat
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia108 Posts
January 16 2011 09:07 GMT
#35
Yeah I feel the same as you. 3700 C- high zerg on ICCUP (season 12 I think) and even though I think I'm a terrible terrible noob, I easily reached high diamond and will almost definitely get instantly promoted to masters when I get the chance to play again (haven't played since a week before 1.2 release).
Meldrath
Profile Joined June 2010
United States620 Posts
January 16 2011 12:58 GMT
#36
On January 16 2011 07:49 Sadistx wrote:
Master's League = D+ at best, maybe C- if you were protoss in bw.

I bet you half the the top200 list wouldn't make it past B- on iccup today, look at amazing players like CombatEX, Piqliq, Katari, the entire GMMA clan "dominating" ladder, but they would never win a starcraft tournament against real pros like Nony or Ret.
Just about everyone thinks that blizz ladder is a joke, partly because of maps and partly because its a cheese/allinfest at ALL levels.

Not the same game. Not the same system. You can't make loose comparisons. Please stop.
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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 16 2011 13:14 GMT
#37
Can you people please take iCCup vs Bnet2.0 somewhere else? Seriously guys, you ruined this bragblog.
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Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
January 16 2011 13:23 GMT
#38
On January 16 2011 22:14 Shana wrote:
Can you people please take iCCup vs Bnet2.0 somewhere else? Seriously guys, you ruined this bragblog.


The OP brought it up dude.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
January 18 2011 07:32 GMT
#39
On January 16 2011 22:14 Shana wrote:
Can you people please take iCCup vs Bnet2.0 somewhere else? Seriously guys, you ruined this bragblog.

I actually intended it to mostly be about Bnet 2.0 and the evolving game so ICCUP fit in pretty nicely. The whole idea is that being in masters is not brag worthy and I feel disappointed about that. When I became C-, I was incredibly proud.
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