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whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
January 01 2011 14:45 GMT
#1
Hi guys, anyone else thinks that having that many koreans is kinda bad? i mean its foreigner tournament come on, why so many koreans ? we will have like 0 foreigners in semis/finals just like in that Kaspersky cup :S

The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
January 01 2011 14:50 GMT
#2
i think having that many koreans legitimizes the tournament even more so if you win you can say you played against the best and won, not against the best foreigners and won.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 01 2011 14:52 GMT
#3
I am dissappointed that asians cant join and the whoever the hell was got invited.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 01 2011 14:58 GMT
#4
Well the tourny is truely gonna be the best players since Koreans are playing, but I guess it might be kinda sad to see Korean finals (which I think will happen).
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
January 01 2011 15:01 GMT
#5
Yeah like that them there tourny G S L 3 had like 5% foreigner representation and only 1 got to the top 4 omg so dumb tl wtf.
aka Teutonica
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
January 01 2011 15:06 GMT
#6
The koreans are most likely Team liquid guys and idra xD

At least some of them
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 15:10:37
January 01 2011 15:09 GMT
#7
On January 02 2011 00:06 `Zapdos wrote:
The koreans are most likely Team liquid guys and idra xD

At least some of them


lol they will have 13 koreans so it will be more than idra and TL guys i just think its little bit stupid, they have their 11 GSL tournaments in a year or something like that, let us have our 1 tournament :S i mean 3-4 koreans are kinda cool i guess, but 13? :S i bet 1/2/3 places will be koreans :S
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
January 01 2011 15:17 GMT
#8
You can make the thread in the TSL3 forum.........If you want my opinion all foreigners will gain the drive to work harder because otherwise they'll get owned very hard.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
January 01 2011 15:21 GMT
#9
I think they pretty much had to open it to Koreans.

With BW you had the excuse that most non-Koreans did not grow up somewhere with a pro-scene so it would be boring to spectators if those (relatively) trash players had to face Koreans that were far better but no one had ever heard of.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at what the restrictions for entering the last TSL were and remember they were engineered to avoid the masses of amateur/retired but incredibly strong Koreans.

But SC2 is a new game and professional SC2 is still in its infancy so it wouldn't make sense to define a similar set of restrictions and make a "foreigner only" tournament.
No I'm never serious.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
January 01 2011 15:24 GMT
#10
On January 02 2011 00:21 Nytefish wrote:
I think they pretty much had to open it to Koreans.

With BW you had the excuse that most non-Koreans did not grow up somewhere with a pro-scene so it would be boring to spectators if those (relatively) trash players had to face Koreans that were far better but no one had ever heard of.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at what the restrictions for entering the last TSL were and remember they were engineered to avoid the masses of amateur/retired but incredibly strong Koreans.

But SC2 is a new game and professional SC2 is still in its infancy so it wouldn't make sense to define a similar set of restrictions and make a "foreigner only" tournament.



well im sure u saw kaspersky cup right? foreigners were stomped im sure same will happen here, even worse maybe? cuz koreans ofc will train EVEN MORE to win this, big money tournament :S
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
January 01 2011 15:26 GMT
#11
You're looking at kaspersky cup and totally ignoring that other tourny at the same time with dimaga in the finals vs fruidealer, and tons of foreigners in general?
aka Teutonica
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
January 01 2011 15:29 GMT
#12
On January 02 2011 00:26 Slayer91 wrote:
You're looking at kaspersky cup and totally ignoring that other tourny at the same time with dimaga in the finals vs fruidealer, and tons of foreigners in general?


That was like in the beta. :<
herve
Profile Joined January 2010
152 Posts
January 01 2011 15:29 GMT
#13
On January 02 2011 00:24 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 00:21 Nytefish wrote:
I think they pretty much had to open it to Koreans.

With BW you had the excuse that most non-Koreans did not grow up somewhere with a pro-scene so it would be boring to spectators if those (relatively) trash players had to face Koreans that were far better but no one had ever heard of.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at what the restrictions for entering the last TSL were and remember they were engineered to avoid the masses of amateur/retired but incredibly strong Koreans.

But SC2 is a new game and professional SC2 is still in its infancy so it wouldn't make sense to define a similar set of restrictions and make a "foreigner only" tournament.



well im sure u saw kaspersky cup right? foreigners were stomped im sure same will happen here, even worse maybe? cuz koreans ofc will train EVEN MORE to win this, big money tournament :S


And so be it. I'd rather see the very best players win regardless of nationality. Why do you think foreigners need a bone thrown to them? We've already seen that the very best can compete with the Koreans.

I imagine in the future, if possible, they will have Korean server TL opens to decide who from that region gets a shot at qualifying.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 15:32:01
January 01 2011 15:30 GMT
#14
Foreigners can and will do fine even with korean participation, just look at nony/nama and fenix at dreamhack, jinro and idra at GSL.

I'm not really worried to be honest, they're still a minority compared to the amount of foreigners, its not like in the GSL where its the opposite.

I'm confident we'll have atleast 1 foreigner in the finals.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 15:34:20
January 01 2011 15:31 GMT
#15
On January 02 2011 00:24 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 00:21 Nytefish wrote:
I think they pretty much had to open it to Koreans.

With BW you had the excuse that most non-Koreans did not grow up somewhere with a pro-scene so it would be boring to spectators if those (relatively) trash players had to face Koreans that were far better but no one had ever heard of.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, look at what the restrictions for entering the last TSL were and remember they were engineered to avoid the masses of amateur/retired but incredibly strong Koreans.

But SC2 is a new game and professional SC2 is still in its infancy so it wouldn't make sense to define a similar set of restrictions and make a "foreigner only" tournament.



well im sure u saw kaspersky cup right? foreigners were stomped im sure same will happen here, even worse maybe? cuz koreans ofc will train EVEN MORE to win this, big money tournament :S


I'm not saying foreigners and Koreans are equally skilled (not saying they aren't either). I mean it's hard to set rules defining on what it means to be a foreigner, especially now that there are so many foreigners in SK and you have Idra who's been there from before SC2 until now.

It would be even worse to base it on ethnicity since that is hard to check and unfairly excludes Koreans who have never even been to Korea. Or similar cases.
No I'm never serious.
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
January 01 2011 15:55 GMT
#16
On January 02 2011 00:31 Nytefish wrote:

It would be even worse to base it on ethnicity since that is hard to check and unfairly excludes Koreans who have never even been to Korea. Or similar cases.


That was never the case. If a person is living outside of Korea even if he is Korean is a "foreigner"
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
January 01 2011 15:56 GMT
#17
why settle with the best of the worst when you can watch the best of the best =]
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
January 01 2011 15:58 GMT
#18
On January 02 2011 00:56 ShadeR wrote:
why settle with the best of the worst when you can watch the best of the best =]


yea but foreigner tournament, and i want to watch finals with foreigners, not koreans like in gsl ..
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 01 2011 16:09 GMT
#19
On January 02 2011 00:58 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 00:56 ShadeR wrote:
why settle with the best of the worst when you can watch the best of the best =]


yea but foreigner tournament, and i want to watch finals with foreigners, not koreans like in gsl ..

Then watch any one of the multitude of foreign tournaments and you'll get your wish. How often do you get a truly international tournament? I think that's something pretty special
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
January 01 2011 16:20 GMT
#20
I'm more curious about how the lag/latency issue will be resolved with the Koreans.
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