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whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
January 01 2011 16:22 GMT
#21
On January 02 2011 01:20 Adila wrote:
I'm more curious about how the lag/latency issue will be resolved with the Koreans.


playing on US servers?
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
barth
Profile Joined March 2008
Ireland1272 Posts
January 01 2011 16:33 GMT
#22
I don't think you can argue that the amount of hype caused by the fact that the winner will be the best of the absolutely best will be worth the slight risk that top 4 or top 8 players are a little less connected or known to the community

From the TSL 2 nongmin participation announcement thread:
One of the TSL's major goals has been to promote and enhance the non-professional or "foreigner" scene.

Times have changed drastically but I think the same applies today. Would the scene benefit more if there was no Koreans participating in TSL3? I'm sure the answer is no.
"Somebody you are talking to disappears mid sentence, and the universe shoots you because you talked to someone that wasn`t there." - MasterOfChaos
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
January 01 2011 16:36 GMT
#23
Only thing I'm kinda concerned about this time is if the koreans bring the allins(a la GSL) with them.
Otherwise and nonetheless this is going to be the greatest tournament ever.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
January 01 2011 16:51 GMT
#24
This thread is silly. There are foreigner tournaments going on without korean representation ALL THE TIME.

forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 16:54:26
January 01 2011 16:53 GMT
#25
On January 02 2011 01:51 Ghad wrote:
This thread is silly. There are foreigner tournaments going on without korean representation ALL THE TIME.




dude did u even read more than 2 posts, i already said that few koreans is cool, but 13? thats way too much, will be just like GSL starting from quarters no foreigners can be found
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Brewed Tea
Profile Joined October 2010
United States124 Posts
January 01 2011 17:23 GMT
#26
ehhh, Koreans are in top in SC2 but many people can debate whether or not they are the best of the best of the best just from a stereotypical view point. i mean we have seen time and time and again that Koreans are invincible forces of destruction that lay nothing but wastes in their path, just look at Dreamhack. and Jinro a non-korean made it to the final four in GSL 3. that has to say something.

its pretty ignorant to say "well i guess we might as well give it to the koreans" because the skill cap for the best players on NA and EU is close to korea as well, with maybe a few exceptions such as MC and MVP
if it wasnt for mules terrans would have to 15 hatch every game.
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
January 01 2011 17:32 GMT
#27
On January 02 2011 01:53 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2011 01:51 Ghad wrote:
This thread is silly. There are foreigner tournaments going on without korean representation ALL THE TIME.




dude did u even read more than 2 posts, i already said that few koreans is cool, but 13? thats way too much, will be just like GSL starting from quarters no foreigners can be found


that's not even how it works in the GSL where less than 1% of the participants are foreigners, so how are you going to assume something like this? are you just scared that koreans are gonna come in and just whoop everyone's ass?
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 01 2011 17:42 GMT
#28
why they would invite koreans to play in teamliquid starleague I don't know... It's kind of strange.

TSL was always defined as being an event for foreigners, especially considering most foreigners don't have access to playing in the GSL. GSL doesn't just invite foreigners who cant logistically play in their qualifiers, why should we invite koreans to play in our tournament?
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
January 01 2011 17:47 GMT
#29
Well yeah 1/3 of the players are koreans, and I kind of agree with you that there are too much koreans in there, still you should get a few in there 4-6 rather than 10-13.
And yeah its kind boring to say: "ahh another finals with koreans only" every one month in the GSL.
Conclusion:
Have less koreans
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
whiteLotus
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
1833 Posts
January 01 2011 17:48 GMT
#30
On January 02 2011 02:47 TemplarCo. wrote:
Well yeah 1/3 of the players are koreans, and I kind of agree with you that there are too much koreans in there, still you should get a few in there 4-6 rather than 10-13.
And yeah its kind boring to say: "ahh another finals with koreans only" every one month in the GSL.
Conclusion:
Have less koreans


wow mind=blown LOL totaly agree
The bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame
Denizen[9]
Profile Joined July 2010
United States649 Posts
January 01 2011 17:50 GMT
#31
You see this was all part of the plan. Blizzard realised the foreigners could compete with Koreans enough to where the TSL would be both foreign and korean. They increased latency from that of beta to give foreigners a fighting chance. GENIUS!
Jaedong, Baby | Idra, Marineking, Tester, Nada
Slakkoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1119 Posts
January 01 2011 18:08 GMT
#32
Wait what, you count TL and IdrA to koreans?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 01 2011 18:28 GMT
#33
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 01 2011 18:33 GMT
#34
I just don't like how koreans don't have to go through any sort of qualifier process. And I do like the idea of having some koreans, but having nearly half of the tournament be made of koreans that don't have to do anything special to qualify seems silly for me
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
January 01 2011 18:58 GMT
#35
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
January 01 2011 19:00 GMT
#36
yeah if half of those are liquid guys and the other half are like GSL winners and Boxer or something that'd be pretty intense.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
January 01 2011 19:03 GMT
#37
I find it kind of funny that the last TSL will help players get placement in this one, since they are different games. Sigh, TL.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
January 01 2011 19:08 GMT
#38
Having a good mix of koreans will really help us understand how far of a gap exists between foreign and korean players.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
January 01 2011 19:12 GMT
#39
On January 02 2011 04:08 darmousseh wrote:
Having a good mix of koreans will really help us understand how far of a gap exists between foreign and korean players.


Latency/Lag issues will still be a problem though. MC got demolished by TOP - late forcefields and uncharacteristic voidray control were no doubt a part of that (seeing as they form pretty much the basis of MC's play). I'm not saying TOP wouldn't be able to beat MC... but 4-0?
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
January 01 2011 19:19 GMT
#40
This is going to be nothing like Kaspersky. Everyone is going to be practicing their balls off for this tournament, it's going to be competitive trust me. I don't think this game has as big a gap as BW, I definitely think foreigners will be there at the end. I'm rooting for a Liquid`Tyler repeat. I hope he reaches the finals, officially changes his name back to NonY right before the match, and then wins an epic 4-3 against a Korean.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
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