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grats
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States184 Posts
November 11 2010 14:05 GMT
#21
It pays off if its a technical career. Lucky for you, you picked a good part of college. But most don't they get a business degree or hospitality and are left with a minimum wage job and in debt.

But your not them so great job.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
November 11 2010 14:32 GMT
#22
Too bad the requirement courses for engineering are so hard and extremely stressful.

Well great job getting what all of us dream to achieve one day!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Hizzo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States193 Posts
November 11 2010 16:29 GMT
#23
On November 11 2010 23:05 grats wrote:
It pays off if its a technical career. Lucky for you, you picked a good part of college. But most don't they get a business degree or hospitality and are left with a minimum wage job and in debt.

But your not them so great job.


I've always been technical minded and interested in computers, so I've been destined for a tech field. I started off as Info Sci, and that just wasn't for me and went to Computer Engineering. I fucking hate circuits and would rather program so I got the hell out of that and went to Comp. Sci. and I'm rather happy here.

I guess I'm lucky that I have a natural interest in what I do, since computers will be around always.

On November 11 2010 23:32 Disregard wrote:
Too bad the requirement courses for engineering are so hard and extremely stressful.

Well great job getting what all of us dream to achieve one day!


It is stressful, but it's really rewarding at the same time. You can say yeah, I got through that shit, I'm a baller. Plus as much as I always say I hate my classes and shit, I would have it no other way - if I were doing something easy I'd probably want to die.

Thanks for all the kind words.
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25991 Posts
November 11 2010 16:59 GMT
#24
Congrats I don't have anything more to add than that.
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Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
November 11 2010 17:12 GMT
#25
Lockheed aaaaall the way, no contest. Will look crazy good on your resume.
PetitCrabe
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada410 Posts
November 11 2010 18:25 GMT
#26
Holy crap... jealous right now i hate you
imDerek
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1944 Posts
November 11 2010 19:02 GMT
#27
Congrats know how you felt -- was in your position a while ago. Do a good job and get the full-time offer! (or a good reference
Least favorite progamers: Leta, Zero, Mind, Shine, free, really <-- newly added
Hizzo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 21:15:24
November 11 2010 21:14 GMT
#28
On November 12 2010 02:12 Thrill wrote:
Lockheed aaaaall the way, no contest. Will look crazy good on your resume.


I wish it were that easy. I am leaning towards IBM heavily right now because:
- I know I will be developing software
- Assuming training takes what, 4 weeks, I will effectively have 7ish months of real work experience versus 2-3ish with Lockheed.
- Doing the co-op for 8 months will give me next semester off (less burn out) and will generate enough gain such that I will only have to take loans out for 1 semester instead of my whole senior year.
- I know I will be programming in C++ and I feel that 7 months of industry C++ will teach me efficient coding, assimilation to standardization, and good coding practices.
- Location: Raleigh / Durham area near Duke and UNC

Lockheed
- Tech Specialist position was not able to be elaborated on so I'd have no idea what I would be doing.
- Top Secret security clearance
- Valley Forge / King of Prussia area (outside Philly)
- Has the potential to be very awesome and interesting but this is dwarfed by the sheer amount of experience difference.


The way I see it is that experience is golden (to someone with none: me). Both companies are very well known, large, accommodating, and (in my eyes) rather prestigious. Would I rather have less or more hands on experience on the job?
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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
November 11 2010 22:48 GMT
#29
Congrats! I was worried this would be a blog about how you couldn't find work after school.
MC Fighting!~
Hizzo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-11 23:17:11
November 11 2010 23:16 GMT
#30
Too bad I'm not done with school, lol...soon....soooonn. Thanks^^
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
November 11 2010 23:53 GMT
#31
You can always go IBM if you want to go there, but the TS-compartmentalized clearance you'll get from Lockheed if you ever do your work there OPENS a lot of classified-level jobs after you've proved yourself an asset to whoever hires you, even if you leave Lockheed in the future. Not to mention that people working on these kinds of projects generally like each other, so even if you leave, you'll end up having a good pool of positions other people would have no way of accessing.
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Hizzo
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 21:45:50
November 12 2010 21:44 GMT
#32
On November 12 2010 08:53 Ciryandor wrote:
You can always go IBM if you want to go there, but the TS-compartmentalized clearance you'll get from Lockheed if you ever do your work there OPENS a lot of classified-level jobs after you've proved yourself an asset to whoever hires you, even if you leave Lockheed in the future. Not to mention that people working on these kinds of projects generally like each other, so even if you leave, you'll end up having a good pool of positions other people would have no way of accessing.


I accepted IBM's offer. It's not like I cannot go to Lockheed in the future if IBM does not work out. And as cool as defense contracting is, there are plenty of other cool opportunities. I even have a cousins in Accenture and Raytheon that could possibly open up doors for me in the future by passing on my resume for me - you never know what's out there.

I couldn't go wrong either way and I feel IBM is the best for me after dwelling on the positives of each for the past three days.

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