EPTStarcraft, sport or not? - Page 2
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FlaShFTW
United States10567 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On November 03 2010 08:50 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: I would say the SC definitely falls under the requirement of physical prowess, maybe even more so than skill. Just going out on a limb here, but at, for example, the wide reciever position in football, it does not take a whole lot of skill to catch a football. Anyone can learn how to do it. But where good players separate themselves is the ability hold position on a defender, which is the skill of playing well, and to run very fast, as well as make athletic jumps, which falls under physical prowess. all of these elements require years of focused training and dedication, and failure before you obtain success. In SC, anyone can pick up the game, play zerg, and build drones, lings and roaches. Where good players separate themselves is the ability to see what their opponent is doing and react properly (the skill), and then to be able to move their hands fast enough to execute properly (which is the physical prowess.) All elements require years of focused training and dedication, and failure before you obtain success. also, a lot of people would argue in football that subtle positioning will separate you from equally athletic players, but there is only so much you can do against someone who is both stronger and faster than you. The same applies to SC, where you can exploit very subtle timings and other things, but there is only so much you can do against a player who has far better mechanics. So ya, that's my 2 cents. did you just really lump in someone wide receivers who run 4.3 40s with fatasses like julyzerg, who can click buttons fast?? I am an athlete because I can type at over 80 wpm. Word. | ||
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Durak
Canada3685 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:47 Hawk wrote: No. Sports require athletic skills. There's a reason the term E-SPORTS exists. I agree. Chess and StarCraft are competitive games, not sports. You can call StarCraft an e-sport if you want. | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
On November 03 2010 08:02 FlaShFTW wrote: SPORT: (noun)- an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. If racing is a sport, Starcraft is a sport | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
But people call nascar and poker a sport, so maybe not. | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
Imagine your doctor ask you : -So FlashFTW are you actively engaged in a sport to keep up the good shape ? -Sure, I put tons of hour in it. I make sure to warmup b4 sessions, do my strech and practice hard everyday. - Good, keep it up for the heath, if more kids were like you, society would be way more active ! | ||
Chill
Calgary26003 Posts
Does it really matter if it's a sport? It is what it is, why do you need to fit it into a box? | ||
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seRapH
United States9827 Posts
you really don't need to "debate" with people at your school about whether or not its a sport. i'm sure you can't change their minds because they're already set on it, and you're just either making a fool out of yourself or annoying the shit out of your peers (and from what i hear its both ;D). its an esport, we're cyber-athletes, isn't that good enough for you? | ||
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Myrkskog
Canada481 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On November 05 2010 05:57 Chill wrote: Does it really matter if it's a sport? It is what it is, why do you need to fit it into a box? I think this mainly has to do with letting competitive gaming being accepted by western culture. Sports, to many, are seen in a positive light. Gaming is frowned upon. Attempting to bridge the gap between the two would help gaming be more respected by westerners. That being said, A: I doubt people will ever consider gaming a sport, and B: I don't really consider it one either. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
I guess it does depend a lot on how someone defines sports though. | ||
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TimmyMac
Canada499 Posts
On November 05 2010 07:03 OneOther wrote: SC is not a sport. It's a competitive game. There's no athleticism or physical exertion in SC. For me, those two qualities define a sport. I guess it does depend a lot on how someone defines sports though. This + what Chill said. Not a sport. Neither is chess. Neither is poker. Sports involve maximum physical exertion and/or leave you exhausted when you're done. Sport: Not a sport: ![[image loading]](http://www.gosugamers.net/general/images/news/idra_iem.jpg) | ||
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HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
ieatkid5 said it in the first reply: it all depends on how you define sport, which, in your case at least, all depends on how you define physical prowess. Words like "sport" and "physical prowess" are just categories, which is to say that they're arbitrary and even reasonable, well-intentioned people can have sincere disagreements about them. You can't design an experiment to confirm your hypothesis one way or another. You're never going to come up with some perfect argument that proves that SC is or is not a sport. Just won't happen. You might instead just ask yourself what the disagreement is really about. My guess it's about the "SC is a sport" side trying to assert that SC isn't a nerdy waste of life and the "SC is not a sport" side trying to assert that it is. Who hasn't been caught in that crossfire? But a disagreement like that is just, as the great Raymond Smuckles would say, a hamsterwheel bitchfight. You shouldn't even let yourself get caught up in that. Haters gonna hate. Skaters gotta skate. You know how it is. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19259 Posts
On November 05 2010 00:47 Hawk wrote: So chess isn't a sport? Someone better contact the IOC.No. Sports require athletic skills. There's a reason the term E-SPORTS exists. did you just really lump in someone wide receivers who run 4.3 40s with fatasses like julyzerg, who can click buttons fast?? I am an athlete because I can type at over 80 wpm. Word. | ||
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On November 05 2010 15:23 tofucake wrote: So chess isn't a sport? Someone better contact the IOC. I don't think I'd be the first to say that the IOC is retarded. Chess ain't a sport. They just happen to have a lot more mobilized nerds who don't like being told they're not athletes and made a big enough shit that they were included. | ||
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m1LkmaN
Australia82 Posts
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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