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I started playing Starcraft 2 without having played Starcraft. I started playing this September just after I got it for my birthday, so around the 12th.
I've always been interested in Starcraft, but never really knew how to get into it. I had an ex who loved it and played, and showed me how to cheese people with zerg, and we watched a few streams, but that was about it.
So this Summer at the local Anime Convention, I watched the SC2 tournament and decided I was going to buy it on my birthday. (I had bought it after it came out, but my friend decided he wanted it. I gave up and just gave it to him. =_=)
My boyfriend(then was just a friend) helped pay for it, and also taught me the basics and how to play. Since then we've been playing lots together, and he says i've improved a lot.
I'm only about bronze 1v1, though. (I haven't finished the placement matches. I get nervous to play 1v1. Haha.)
My question is, is it worth it to go back to BW? Like, buying it, and playing that?
Or should I just continue on playing SC2 and just keep watching replays, playing league, and trying to get better.
Would there be a point to doing it? I've been told that BW is only full of people who are really good now, so going into the game would be much more difficult.
Opinions? Advice? Thanks. 
 
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Well, you don't have to buy BW, you can just download it over at iccup.com, so why not give it a try and see if you enjoy it
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I think you should play at least the BroodWar campaign and maybe a few games against a computer. Then you can start to appreciate how good current BW pros really are. And then you can watch lots of great ProLeague games, yay!
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Considering BW is pretty much free, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. You can forget about being competitive with it however, as you mentioned, BW is filled with skilled players nowadays.
Play BW for the story. It's much less painful to improve at SC2 than it is to improve at BW.
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You don't really need to buy it if you play on ICCUP. But if 1v1s make you nervous, playing against the established BW players is probably not the most ideal situation. I suggest finding some practice partners, people who will play with you and genuinely want to learn and get better. Eventually you'll feel more confident in your play and laddering won't be a problem anymore!
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Their right sadly, Getting into BW now would be so hard. The average rank on iccup went down for everyone so their all about 500pts less then before give'r'take.
I play now and then for nopstalgias sake and get roflstomped. its quite disheartening.
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Its incredibly difficult to get good at broodwar nowadays.
The mechanical skill required to play is much higher, that coupled with the fact that the only people who are still playing broodwar are people who have been playing it for 10+ years, makes it a very difficult game to play these days. Even the bad people are actually pretty good.
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On October 30 2010 08:30 Raeleigh wrote:
Would there be a point to doing it?
You do things because they're entertaining or they help you survive life.
If playing BW is not entertaining then don't play it... that's really all that can be said.
I played a handful of BW games before deciding that I didn't want to play it anymore, but I sure do love watching it.
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On October 30 2010 08:34 Kyuukyuu wrote:
Well, you don't have to buy BW, you can just download it over at iccup.com, so why not give it a try and see if you enjoy it
You don't have to buy it o-o What have I been doing just sitting around? Haha. I think I will.
On October 30 2010 08:35 Simplistik wrote:
I think you should play at least the BroodWar campaign and maybe a few games against a computer. Then you can start to appreciate how good current BW pros really are. And then you can watch lots of great ProLeague games, yay!
Yeah! I wanted to watch BW games but I'm like ?_?
It looks much different than SC2, so I get confused, haha.
On October 30 2010 08:35 salito wrote:
Considering BW is pretty much free, it wouldn't hurt to give it a try. You can forget about being competitive with it however, as you mentioned, BW is filled with skilled players nowadays.
Play BW for the story. It's much less painful to improve at SC2 than it is to improve at BW.
Alright, thanks for the help. :D
On October 30 2010 08:35 Thegilaboy wrote:
You don't really need to buy it if you play on ICCUP. But if 1v1s make you nervous, playing against the established BW players is probably not the most ideal situation. I suggest finding some practice partners, people who will play with you and genuinely want to learn and get better. Eventually you'll feel more confident in your play and laddering won't be a problem anymore!
Yeah, I get nervous just playing league 1v1 on SC2!
I make really silly mistakes, makes me go >: [ at myself, haha. So I avoid the situation and play 2v2. XD
But it's a good idea to get out there and just do it, right? >: ]
On October 30 2010 08:38 TryThis wrote:
Their right sadly, Getting into BW now would be so hard. The average rank on iccup went down for everyone so their all about 500pts less then before give'r'take.
I play now and then for nopstalgias sake and get roflstomped. its quite disheartening.
Roflstomped. XD Maybe losing will be good for me. Then I'll just learn to take it and go with it.
On October 30 2010 08:38 Fatmatt2000 wrote:
Its incredibly difficult to get good at broodwar nowadays.
The mechanical skill required to play is much higher, that coupled with the fact that the only people who are still playing broodwar are people who have been playing it for 10+ years, makes it a very difficult game to play these days. Even the bad people are actually pretty good.
Oh snap. Thanks for the info!
On October 30 2010 08:41 kainzero wrote:You do things because they're entertaining or they help you survive life. If playing BW is not entertaining then don't play it... that's really all that can be said. I played a handful of BW games before deciding that I didn't want to play it anymore, but I sure do love watching it.
When I say "Would there be a point to doing it?" I don't mean like
"Is there any point or will I be wasting my time"
I meant more like, would it help at all or would I just be playing because I haven't and probably should?
=P
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My question is, is it worth it to go back to BW? Like, buying it, and playing that?
Worth it for what? What's your end goal?
To get better at BW? Then obviously yeah, it's worth it to play BW.
To get better at SC2? No, they are different games, it would be pointless.
To have fun playing whatever game you are playing? Yeah, you can have a ton of fun playing BW still, but as a noob, you are probably better off with the more streamlined and feature-friendly SC2.
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On October 30 2010 08:50 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +My question is, is it worth it to go back to BW? Like, buying it, and playing that? Worth it for what? What's your end goal? To get better at BW? Then obviously yeah, it's worth it to play BW. To get better at SC2? No, they are different games, it would be pointless. To have fun playing whatever game you are playing? Yeah, you can have a ton of fun playing BW still, but as a noob, you are probably better off with the more streamlined and feature-friendly SC2.
Okay, thanks!
Because I have friends who played BW before SC2, and they said playing that before definitely helped them get to where they are now.
My friend is in Diamond and he said he wouldn't be there now if he hadn't played BW.
I was like ?_? Should I go back and try it?
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Was the anime convention NYAF? cuz IEM was there and a lot of tlers were there
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On October 30 2010 08:51 Pokebunny wrote:
Was the anime convention NYAF? cuz IEM was there and a lot of tlers were there
Noo, I live in BC Canada. The anime convention was Anime Evolution this year in August. 
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Go for it I guess, if you don't like it you can always go back to SC2.
I will reiterate what other people have said, in that you are going to lose for a long long time. Like I'm no good at BW (was like ~2000) and I would absolutely stomp people who have been playing semi-seriously for a couple months, like it isn't even close. Getting decent though is lots of fun! You can constantly see improvement match after match, and it's fun to play if you keep up with it.
If you ever want some games just pm me, GL :D
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On October 30 2010 09:03 emperorchampion wrote:
Go for it I guess, if you don't like it you can always go back to SC2.
I will reiterate what other people have said, in that you are going to lose for a long long time. Like I'm no good at BW (was like ~2000) and I would absolutely stomp people who have been playing semi-seriously for a couple months, like it isn't even close. Getting decent though is lots of fun! You can constantly see improvement match after match, and it's fun to play if you keep up with it.
If you ever want some games just pm me, GL :D
Awesome, thank you so much. ^___^ I'll keep that in mind! ♥
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On October 30 2010 08:48 Raeleigh wrote:
I meant more like, would it help at all or would I just be playing because I haven't and probably should?
=P
So... you wanna play BW in hopes that it'll make you better at SC2?
There are fundamentals that are transferable in every competitive genre, but if your ultimate goal is to get better in SC2 then you should just play SC2.
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Honestly, I think you should just keep playing SC2 and force yourself to queue for 1v1. BW is a different game. Even though many of its skill sets carry over into SC2, it isn't worth trying to learn BW to indirectly become better at SC2 when you could just play SC2 instead. Your record doesn't matter as much as getting better.
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If you want to become better at SC2, play SC2. Brood War is a far different game in terms of mechanics, and is much more difficult as you lose HUGE aspects which make SC2 easier in comparison such as auto-mining workers, selecting more then 12 units at once, and the ability to select multiple buildings.
That on top of the fact that the BW community atm, especially on ICCUP atm, is a VERY COMPETITIVE group of individuals (which has never been "stronger") compared to the SC2 community.
If you want to just experience the game without trying to use it to learn to play SC2 more efficiently, then, go ahead! 
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On October 30 2010 09:18 Sero wrote:
Honestly, I think you should just keep playing SC2 and force yourself to queue for 1v1. BW is a different game. Even though many of its skill sets carry over into SC2, it isn't worth trying to learn BW to indirectly become better at SC2 when you could just play SC2 instead. Your record doesn't matter as much as getting better.
Okay, thank you!
On October 30 2010 09:22 Graham wrote:If you want to become better at SC2, play SC2. Brood War is a far different game in terms of mechanics, and is much more difficult as you lose HUGE aspects which make SC2 easier in comparison such as auto-mining workers, selecting more then 12 units at once, and the ability to select multiple buildings. That on top of the fact that the BW community atm, especially on ICCUP atm, is a VERY COMPETITIVE group of individuals (which has never been "stronger") compared to the SC2 community. If you want to just experience the game without trying to use it to learn to play SC2 more efficiently, then, go ahead!
Okay, thank you very much. ^^ I didn't know how much more competitive BW was to SC2, to be honest.
On October 30 2010 09:34 krndandaman wrote:
If your aim is to get better at sc2, play sc2.
Brood war is one of the most hardest rts games to get competitively good at, so this is why so many people who are former brood war players have excellent rts playing skills which transferred to sc2.
it's gonna take a shitload of time for you to learn and develop those skills while attempting to transfer those skills from bw, so might as well learn those skills from sc2.
Okay o:
Thanks guys :>
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Playing BW now is a very bad idea unless you enjoy challenging yourself tremendously, or simply love the game and proscene a lot. Theres not as many people playing it anymore, and the ones who are are very good, so you'd get stomped over and over without the chance to learn properly. I'd suggest you get better at sc2 first then maybe try your hand at bw, since the matchmaking will match you against players of equal skill. On iccup theres no guarantee, and getting smashed 2000 times before winning is no fun. I know from personal experience 
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if your just bronze at sc2 dont expect to be anywhere above D for atleast a year of solid practice.
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On October 30 2010 10:08 Hakker wrote:
if your just bronze at sc2 dont expect to be anywhere above D for atleast a year of solid practice.
I never did expect that, but thanks.
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if you're afraid to play 1v1 cause of stats or your ranking or something you're probably not going to get good very fast.
Being afraid of losing is probably a thing that holds alot of people back from improving, there's nothing that helps.
If you have better friends that's probably even better but i imagine you'll have to ladder it up some day to go as far as you can.
But it all depends on where you wanna get to, if it's just an average understanding of the game then it really doesn't take much work to get average diamond blah blah.
You should play bw! just to appreciate how much better and more demanding it is
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On October 30 2010 10:45 Divinek wrote:
if you're afraid to play 1v1 cause of stats or your ranking or something you're probably not going to get good very fast.
Being afraid of losing is probably a thing that holds alot of people back from improving, there's nothing that helps.
If you have better friends that's probably even better but i imagine you'll have to ladder it up some day to go as far as you can.
But it all depends on where you wanna get to, if it's just an average understanding of the game then it really doesn't take much work to get average diamond blah blah.
You should play bw! just to appreciate how much better and more demanding it is
Yeah, i'm just nervous and scared of doing poorly.
I think it's cause I just really, really don't like doing bad. I get embarrassed and immediately think I should be good at everything.  It's a bad thing to do, haha.
So maybe playing BW and losing a lot will be good. ;D I definitely think i'm going to play though.
Yeah, my boyfriend is much better than me, and so is our other friend, and I play with them lots. I try to 1v1 my friends as well. But it's hard xD I don't want to get mad at them for winning XD!
Thank you though!
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No pain, no gain. Just do the 1v1s, realize you're going to lose, learn from your mistakes and... get better! Once you learn to accept that you're going to lose -- once you let go of that part of your ego -- is when you really start to progress. Can't win without losin'.
As for BW, those saying that it helped a ton are those who played it while waiting for SC2 to come out.
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On October 30 2010 11:08 Cedstick wrote:
No pain, no gain. Just do the 1v1s, realize you're going to lose, learn from your mistakes and... get better! Once you learn to accept that you're going to lose -- once you let go of that part of your ego -- is when you really start to progress. Can't win without losin'.
As for BW, those saying that it helped a ton are those who played it while waiting for SC2 to come out.
Stop posting in my blogs. /chases you with fire
Can we 1v1? You seem like you're pretty good, and I HATE TvT! :[
^_^
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If you want some practice vs Z or T I play both those at the E level and got some time right now
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I only played SC2 exactly when it came out. (No broodwar experience but had other RTS experiences NOT related to SC ex. DotA , HoN) I just played and watched vods non stop and after a few months i got into Platinum. Im #11 in my ladder right now with 1.1k points. If you really want to learn something , just put effort in it and you'll get the results that you're trying to find.
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My roommate is having a blast going through the starcraft vanilla campaign right now. For getting into "serious" gaming though sc1 wouldn't be good because the only people left doing melee I feel would be fairly advanced.
Still is probably a decent amount of FMP and BGH though I would think on public servers. I also think SC has much better UMS compared with sc2 currently.
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Well i can say i suck in BW soooooo much QQ
I wanted to try it too so i asked my Asian friend if he doesnt have original SC:BW and he just said yea sure i will bring you it tomorrow. : )
That night i played him it ended 1:1 (he was more WC3 type than SC) but still i will remember that matches forever. So i had some free time and i tried play it against ppl on b.net.
I found just few servers but it was enough.
1st game: I have still no idea from where that Zealots came from but i think it was across the map, behind that river where i never been cause its even so hard to scout for me.
2nd game: Wooohoooo i did a Lurkers, but WTF he can see my lurkers : ( i need a scourges ! and how i was looking for from where i can get em i dont have no more hatcheries and he is asking me if this is my 1st game : (
3rd game: T powaaaa ! Z wanted to muta me but yea my turrets are EVERYWHERE ! and im one big turtle boy hoping for the best ! Battle cruisers on tha way ! ..... i can tell you 1 battle cruiser > 100 expansions 200/200 just army cause he didnt need drons more, there are no minerals... He said it was fun play Monopoly with me. I said Monopoly FTW !
4th game: There wasnt 4th game and never will be cause i dont want to waste time of that guys.
END: It was worth of it i love that game and you will too its so much fun even you are the biggest nub out there
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On October 30 2010 11:47 TheAntZ wrote:
If you want some practice vs Z or T I play both those at the E level and got some time right now
That would be good. I'll probably try playing after this weekend, since I won't be home. Going to a LAN party. Maybe i'll try it on a friends computer?
Once I get it going though, i'll send you a message. Thanks!
On October 30 2010 14:00 ValSic wrote:
I only played SC2 exactly when it came out. (No broodwar experience but had other RTS experiences NOT related to SC ex. DotA , HoN) I just played and watched vods non stop and after a few months i got into Platinum. Im #11 in my ladder right now with 1.1k points. If you really want to learn something , just put effort in it and you'll get the results that you're trying to find.
Haha, I used to play DotA all the time with friends, wasn't that good though, haha.
So does watching VODs and replays really help then? My friends said it was better to just keep playing.
On October 30 2010 15:32 Jonoman92 wrote:
My roommate is having a blast going through the starcraft vanilla campaign right now. For getting into "serious" gaming though sc1 wouldn't be good because the only people left doing melee I feel would be fairly advanced.
Still is probably a decent amount of FMP and BGH though I would think on public servers. I also think SC has much better UMS compared with sc2 currently.
Okay. O: I think i'll definitely do the campaign then, just because. (:
On October 30 2010 16:39 NIIINO wrote:
Well i can say i suck in BW soooooo much QQ
I wanted to try it too so i asked my Asian friend if he doesnt have original SC:BW and he just said yea sure i will bring you it tomorrow. : )
That night i played him it ended 1:1 (he was more WC3 type than SC) but still i will remember that matches forever. So i had some free time and i tried play it against ppl on b.net.
I found just few servers but it was enough.
1st game: I have still no idea from where that Zealots came from but i think it was across the map, behind that river where i never been cause its even so hard to scout for me.
2nd game: Wooohoooo i did a Lurkers, but WTF he can see my lurkers : ( i need a scourges ! and how i was looking for from where i can get em i dont have no more hatcheries and he is asking me if this is my 1st game : (
3rd game: T powaaaa ! Z wanted to muta me but yea my turrets are EVERYWHERE ! and im one big turtle boy hoping for the best ! Battle cruisers on tha way ! ..... i can tell you 1 battle cruiser > 100 expansions 200/200 just army cause he didnt need drons more, there are no minerals... He said it was fun play Monopoly with me. I said Monopoly FTW !
4th game: There wasnt 4th game and never will be cause i dont want to waste time of that guys.
END: It was worth of it i love that game and you will too its so much fun even you are the biggest nub out there
Haha, I really enjoyed reading your post! Once I start playing, maybe we could play some fun matches together?
You seem like you'd be fun to play with. xD ♥
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I suggest you just play whatever you enjoy since that's the most important part of gaming(along with owning newbies ofc ).You will never improve if you are not actually having fun with the game.
If you like both games just play them both.At your level mechanics are the thing that needs the biggest improvement anyway.
GL
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On October 31 2010 05:02 nafta wrote:I suggest you just play whatever you enjoy since that's the most important part of gaming(along with owning newbies ofc ).You will never improve if you are not actually having fun with the game. If you like both games just play them both.At your level mechanics are the thing that needs the biggest improvement anyway. GL
Awesome, thanks for that. ^____^ I do have fun playing SC2, so I will try SC, see what that's all about. (:
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