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Peanutsc
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States308 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 06:52:30
October 20 2010 06:41 GMT
#1
Finished my 5 placement matches and won 1 of them. This placed me in the Bronze league at rank 31. Then I played 3 more league games and won 1 of them.

Win/loss: 2/8.

Rank high: Bronze 24
Rank low: Bronze 33
Current: Bronze 27

Things I learned:
  • People are bm. Two of my placement opponents were actively bm (one said "hf but not gl because I want you to die, sorry"), one was passively bm (no gg) and two were decent enough to say "u2" when I said "glhf." Maybe my expectations are too high.
  • I won more games than I expected, probably because I took the time before playing the placement games to actually look up build orders. I'm very impressed by the Liquipedia.
  • Winning is like doing a bump of coke (I'm imagining, anyway. I mean the coke part.).
  • Not scouting means I tend to lose to DTs and cloaked Banshees (natch).
  • It's really important to keep command centers/OCs/PFs alive.


I think this means I have my work cut out for me - just get the mechanics down and learn to adapt to different situations. I've been told to watch TLO for lessons in versatility and build order (thanks zoom) - that's on the docket for tomorrow.

Some good moments:
  • I was very proud of myself when I came back after being thrown off a bit by a Zerg stealing my gas really early game.
  • I was proud of myself for staying in a game for 36 minutes when afterwards I found out that I'd killed more units than my opponent had, even though I eventually lost. This was probably because he suicided some Vikings into my base not knowing I had turrets up, but I'll take what I can get.


Some not-so-good moments:
  • My keyboard somehow refused to work at the beginning of my fifth placement match. I got it going again pretty quickly, but that and my lack of sufficient detection led to a close defeat.
  • I kept getting supply blocked. I have to work on that.
  • I keep aiming MULEs at the ground instead of at mineral patches. I'm really not used to this auto-mining thing yet.
  • I wish siege tanks sounded as cool in SC2 as they do in SCBW.


Still considering the merits of playing Terran vs. another race, likely Protoss. I think I'll stick with Terran for a while, though, since turtling seems to be good for establishing early build order mechanics. But Protoss is so pretty ...

+ Show Spoiler +
Temporal: Why would you want to pick a race based on whether it's pretty or not?
Me: Well, that's obviously not going to be the main factor, but it is somewhat significant. It's like picking the gender of your toon in an MMORPG - you're going to be spending a lot of time with the character, so you might want to consider playing a hot girl. Whose butt do you want to see running across fields for hours and hours?
Temporal: ... I never picked a female character because I felt too awkward about it.


Next steps:
  • Work on build order execution.
    + Show Spoiler +
    Here's what I'm doing:
    10 depot
    12 rax
    13 gas
    15 orbital
    16 2nd gas, 2nd depot
    then 2nd rax, eng bay, factory soon after
    generally 2 factory + tech labs and 1 port + reactor for medivacs
    later on another port/rax depending
    expansion "when I feel safe," around maybe 40 supply

  • Watch TLO games (and maybe some BoxeR games omggg)


Places to crash for BlizzCon? No takers? I promise I'm not going to stab anybody in the middle of the night.

Also, if you haven't seen this, check it out: UC Santa Cruz SCBW AI competition results (TL thread). Pro muta micro by an AI right there!


Props to Temporal!

*
"You only get one life on this earth, Tasteless, and if you're not spending the majority of it playing StarCraft, I would argue that it might be wasted." "I couldn't agree more, Artosis."
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
October 20 2010 07:21 GMT
#2
sorry but not saying gg isnt "passive bad mannered" how ridiculous
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 07:27:27
October 20 2010 07:26 GMT
#3
I wouldn't worry so much about versatility in build order, unless you're talking about midgame transitions. Obviously you need some kind of transition to deal with things like heavy banshees that require specific counters, but I'd recommend focusing on one initial build order and working on mechanics. One baseline build per matchup is enough to get to diamond. (Although watching Boxer and TLO games is really fun, can't bash on that idea too hard...)

Also, lowering your expectations on manner is probably a good plan. I rarely see a gg. Most people just leave. "glhf" or at minimum "u2" gets more common as you rank up, in my experience.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
October 20 2010 07:27 GMT
#4
"hf but not gl because I want you to die, sorry" is just honest not bm.

GL, you've got a long road ahead of you
Yhamm is the god of predictions
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
October 20 2010 07:31 GMT
#5
I'm surprised when I get a response other than "fuck you" or "suck my dick" at the start of a game.

Work an "early" ebay into your builds and make a turret near your minerals and choke if you can't scout properly. Odds of losing a game because you spent 350 minerals are extremely low, and it's a useful building to have anyway.

I don't suggest modeling your game after TLO. He's a fan favorite because of non-standard builds and wacky games, which are very difficult to emulate. They're fun to watch, but if you want to practice, download SeleCT's replays. He plays safe and methodically. Boring, but it wins games.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
October 20 2010 07:53 GMT
#6
Geese everyone taking the side of his opponents. That shit is low what they said.

And y'all must be playing on a different server or in lower leagues because I'm a fairly mediocre diamond player and people say glhf all the time.
Shitposting
Sisko
Profile Joined May 2010
United States121 Posts
October 20 2010 08:56 GMT
#7
I really think if your only goal is to make diamond then you should play protoss and 4gate every match. The build order is easy as sin and you wont find anyone that can stop it until 1300 diamond. It works against every race too.
lessert
Profile Joined October 2010
1 Post
Last Edited: 2010-10-20 23:47:50
October 20 2010 23:46 GMT
#8
What's ur user ID? Id play with u some time, they placed me at bronze 20 -.- I disconnected on like 2 of my matches lol
frogmelter
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States971 Posts
October 21 2010 02:10 GMT
#9
On October 20 2010 16:21 Rice wrote:
sorry but not saying gg isnt "passive bad mannered" how ridiculous


It's considered BM. Leaving without gg = rage quitting = bm.

And to the OP if you need some help I'm willing to help out. Just drop me a PM.
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Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
October 21 2010 02:37 GMT
#10
usually I don't talk to my opponents, I just say same! or you too when they say gl hf. there are assholes all over the internet (also bnet) that when you say GL HF they'd say something douchey.

I think you just need to adhere to the build order you got then find a mentor as well, someone you would feel that is a helping hand even though you don't win against him. At least at the end of the day you don't care because you know that he is helping you out.
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
October 21 2010 02:47 GMT
#11
On October 20 2010 15:41 Peanutsc wrote:
[*] I wish siege tanks sounded as cool in SC2 as they do in SCBW.

You *get it*

I was about to write a lot but I decided it wasn't as useful as this:
Spend money. bb bs aa d s e all the time.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 21 2010 02:50 GMT
#12
leaving without saying gg is not bm. The term is only used in competitive sc, not on the ladder. If you are playing a tournament match and you don't say gg, it's bad. On the ladder, not everyone even know what gg is.
Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-21 03:42:06
October 21 2010 03:39 GMT
#13
If you're serious about this you should just focus purely on improving your macro at first (building workers constantly, getting lots of money and spending it immediately) since that's the most important thing. The win loss ratio doesn't really matter at all, just practice and get better. It might be better for you to do a fast expand build order in every game also, since that will force you to practice macro and defending against harass, and it won't give you any easy wins (like fast banshees will win almost all the time in bronze league for example).
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
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