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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 22:27:54
October 12 2010 22:27 GMT
#41
On October 13 2010 07:13 gtrsrs wrote:
ahahaha
another hipster caught up in pretentious garbage


Rest of post

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EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
October 12 2010 22:29 GMT
#42
radiohead's alright but some of their fans who are pretentious, non-comformist hipster-wannabes are extremely annoying. There are way too many of them in the northwest.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
October 12 2010 22:30 GMT
#43
On October 13 2010 07:13 gtrsrs wrote:
ahahaha
another hipster caught up in pretentious garbage
radiohead has like 3 great songs (creep, paranoid android, there there) and then like 9 albums worth of filler
there are so many bands out there that are more technically skilled, better songwriters, better conceptual writers etc etc etc it's not even funny
but radiohead is definitely a good "surface indie" band for those who need to use music as a way to look down on other people imo imo


So many baseless "points" here it's not even funny.

(Btw, including "Creep" in your top-3 songs makes your post lose most of its credibility, if any.)
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 22:30:53
October 12 2010 22:30 GMT
#44
The Beatles is far and away the winner of any "best band" evaluation with any sort of objectivity. Boundless creativity and musical progress, shaping genres that were hardly there before? Check. Astoundingly successful album sales? Check. Enormous body of work? Check. Durability? Check.

Radiohead is very good. One of the best bands of the last couple decades for sure. Up there with the likes of The White Stripes, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana and The Mars Volta.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 22:30:31
October 12 2010 22:30 GMT
#45
On October 13 2010 07:13 gtrsrs wrote:
ahahaha
another hipster caught up in pretentious garbage
radiohead has like 3 great songs (creep, paranoid android, there there) and then like 9 albums worth of filler
there are so many bands out there that are more technically skilled, better songwriters, better conceptual writers etc etc etc it's not even funny
but radiohead is definitely a good "surface indie" band for those who need to use music as a way to look down on other people imo imo


creep and there there are two of the worse radiohead songs imo

even a lot of their filler is way better

in fact i would say every song on kid a is better than those songs
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 12 2010 22:30 GMT
#46
On October 13 2010 07:30 3clipse wrote:
The Beatles is far and away the winner of any "best band" evaluation with any sort of objectivity. Boundless creativity and musical progress, shaping genres that were hardly there before? Check. Astoundingly successful album sales? Check. Enormous body of work? Check. Durability? Check.

Radiohead is very good. One of the best bands of the last couple decades for sure. Up there with the likes of The White Stripes, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, and The Mars Volta.

the mars volta fo sho baby
RIP Aaliyah
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
October 12 2010 22:34 GMT
#47
On October 13 2010 07:30 3clipse wrote:
The Beatles is far and away the winner of any "best band" evaluation with any sort of objectivity. Boundless creativity and musical progress, shaping genres that were hardly there before? Check. Astoundingly successful album sales? Check. Enormous body of work? Check. Durability? Check.

Radiohead is very good. One of the best bands of the last couple decades for sure. Up there with the likes of The White Stripes, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana and The Mars Volta.

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How can... You even... I don't....
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 22:43:13
October 12 2010 22:40 GMT
#48
On October 13 2010 07:34 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 07:30 3clipse wrote:
The Beatles is far and away the winner of any "best band" evaluation with any sort of objectivity. Boundless creativity and musical progress, shaping genres that were hardly there before? Check. Astoundingly successful album sales? Check. Enormous body of work? Check. Durability? Check.

Radiohead is very good. One of the best bands of the last couple decades for sure. Up there with the likes of The White Stripes, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana and The Mars Volta.

T__________T;

How can... You even... I don't....

You have to "get" raw blues-rock, I guess. They do it better than any band since the 70's. The fact that their style of music is no longer popular and yet they still have managed success as a band speaks volumes about the quality of their work. They pretty much stand alone as a modern representative of their genre, like the Red Hot Chili Peppers do for funk.

Perhaps I should be saying Jack White rather than The White Stripes, as he is the real creative force and talent, and has been involved in numerous other successful projects.
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
October 12 2010 22:43 GMT
#49
On October 13 2010 07:40 3clipse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 07:34 Murderotica wrote:
On October 13 2010 07:30 3clipse wrote:
The Beatles is far and away the winner of any "best band" evaluation with any sort of objectivity. Boundless creativity and musical progress, shaping genres that were hardly there before? Check. Astoundingly successful album sales? Check. Enormous body of work? Check. Durability? Check.

Radiohead is very good. One of the best bands of the last couple decades for sure. Up there with the likes of The White Stripes, Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana and The Mars Volta.

T__________T;

How can... You even... I don't....

You have to "get" raw blues-rock, I guess. They do it better than any band since the 70's. The fact that their style of music is no longer popular and yet they still have managed success as a band speaks volumes about the quality of their work. They pretty much stand alone as a modern representative of their genre, like the Red Hot Chili Peppers do for funk.

But his voice... It's so bad... Sounds like a dying cat mixed with a little girl who dropped her ice cream in some songs. I will admit they had some decent songs, mainly due to the composition, but the vocals are simply horrid imo.
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
October 12 2010 22:43 GMT
#50
On October 13 2010 07:13 gtrsrs wrote:
radiohead has like 3 great songs (creep, paranoid android, there there) and then like 9 albums worth of filler


My Iron Lung was a solid alt rock album way back in the day, everyone just associates Radiohead with being out-there, slightly-pretentious, and highly unique musicians.

They are a great live band though. Pretty intense light show (where your $90 went btw).
jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
October 12 2010 23:28 GMT
#51
Radiohead are a good band. I only really listen to Kid A and Amnesiac these days, unless I'm cherry-picking tracks on iTunes.

Something like Kid A will likely never happen again.

On October 13 2010 06:02 Offhand wrote:
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On October 13 2010 03:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
[image loading]


MBV gets praise from hipsters who pretend to be "really into shoegaze" but have no idea who the Lilys are. They have one good album, and will never release anything else, get over it.


Bro, even ignoring MBV's astounding EP track record, they have two great albums and one good compilation, depending on how you feel about C86er stuff.

In contrast, the Lilys aren't even one of the top three bands to release stuff on Slumberland. And they aren't shoegaze, as "shoegaze" qua movement is inseparable from 1987-1992 Creation Records stuff that metamorphosed into brit-pop bandwagon chasing (e.g. Ride, Lush). Anything on American shores came well after shoegaze had run its course and is better described as just "dream pop."

On October 13 2010 02:04 Sqq wrote:
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On October 13 2010 01:57 palanq wrote:
agree with OP, radiohead is pretty much the best band in the world

unfortunately their most "popular" song (Creep) is HORRIBLE
god what an awful song

everything else past pablo honey is super good... I didn't like hail to the thief too much initially but it's grown on me.


non-conformist much ?


You don't need to be an Atease denizen or an Internet sociologist to know that Radiohead fans who hate "Creep" far outweigh Radiohead fans who think "Creep" is one of their best songs.

Don't listen to Porcupine Tree.
Mondays
YoureFired
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States822 Posts
October 12 2010 23:34 GMT
#52
On October 13 2010 00:25 Mrwl wrote:
You should try Tool

If you want lots of layered music with some incredible skill (even the guitarist, who is the weakest link, is damn good) then listen to some Tool!

Definitely a heavier sound though, so I guess I'm comparing apples and oranges.
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Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
October 12 2010 23:54 GMT
#53
On October 13 2010 08:28 jon arbuckle wrote:
Bro, even ignoring MBV's astounding EP track record, they have two great albums and one good compilation, depending on how you feel about C86er stuff.

In contrast, the Lilys aren't even one of the top three bands to release stuff on Slumberland. And they aren't shoegaze, as "shoegaze" qua movement is inseparable from 1987-1992 Creation Records stuff that metamorphosed into brit-pop bandwagon chasing (e.g. Ride, Lush). Anything on American shores came well after shoegaze had run its course and is better described as just "dream pop."


Later-era Lilys was much heavier into britpop then anything else, that doesn't change the fact that they've been around since 1988, released albums like Brief History, etc.

Modern shoegaze generally draws from more then one influence. But bands like Snowden or Autolux have nothing to do with dream pop, they have more in line with noise rock.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 00:16:10
October 13 2010 00:09 GMT
#54
On October 13 2010 07:30 3clipse wrote:
The Beatles is far and away the winner of any "best band" evaluation with any sort of objectivity.


Thou I respect the overall contributions of The Beatles, no, they are not the best band, not by a long shot. They were uberproductive media puppets - if you make 50 albums, you would eventually get 20 songs right. The Beatles sort of created the music industry as we know it today and made some amazing songs, but I would dare saying that 70% of everything they produced is shit. its just bad music. Its the same story with Pearl Jam - at some point you should stop being "creative" and focus on producing something special.

And btw my favorite band is most likely Portishead
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jon arbuckle
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 00:30:19
October 13 2010 00:29 GMT
#55
On October 13 2010 08:54 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:28 jon arbuckle wrote:
Bro, even ignoring MBV's astounding EP track record, they have two great albums and one good compilation, depending on how you feel about C86er stuff.

In contrast, the Lilys aren't even one of the top three bands to release stuff on Slumberland. And they aren't shoegaze, as "shoegaze" qua movement is inseparable from 1987-1992 Creation Records stuff that metamorphosed into brit-pop bandwagon chasing (e.g. Ride, Lush). Anything on American shores came well after shoegaze had run its course and is better described as just "dream pop."


Later-era Lilys was much heavier into britpop then anything else, that doesn't change the fact that they've been around since 1988, released albums like Brief History, etc.

Modern shoegaze generally draws from more then one influence. But bands like Snowden or Autolux have nothing to do with dream pop, they have more in line with noise rock.


Nulla cetera. Early Lilys were MBV worship from the get-go and were one of many bands huddled around Slumberland/SpinART making Creation-jocking JAMC-cribbing noisy dreamy pop music. You can totally like them more than MBV - that's preference - but to say MBV have "one good album" and to draw a strawman of "people who like MBV pretend to be really into shoegaze" is straight quack talk.

"Modern shoegaze" is a misnomer because, again, a lot of "shoegaze" was geographic context, was a certain time and a certain attitude, q.v. "The Scene That Celebrates Itself." Their being a band in 1988 in the United States doesn't make them part of shoegaze any more than Half Japanese were part of no wave.

Which is to say that the Lilys, Black Tambourine, Velocity Girl, etc. are a result of shoegaze greeting American shores. Chronology doesn't matter; they come from a whole different scene than shoegaze and should be recognized as such. Call it "noise pop."

If by "they aren't dream pop, they're noise rock" you mean that Autolux or whoever takes more from the Jesus and Mary Chain side of the ur-shoegaze equation than the Cocteau Twins, fair enough. It's just that "noise rock" isn't expressly defined in terms of sound. "Noise rock" can be anything from Deerhoof to Acid Mothers Temple, so "they have nothing to do with dream pop, they have more in line with noise rock" is a pretty meaningless statement. I mean, "dream pop" isn't either, but when people use "shoegaze" to describe something that just has a lot of pedals and reverb and whispered vocals and some Slowdive influence or something it just makes me so mad I could post on the Internet some more.

We probably shouldn't start arguing about genre tags and the sounds they describe though because it eventually just turns into that Robert Frost poem "The Secret Sits."
Mondays
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
October 13 2010 00:30 GMT
#56
if we are only counting rock bands led zeppelin wins pretty easily. to say there is a best band out of all the genres is kinda pointless tho.
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eSen1a
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1058 Posts
October 13 2010 12:17 GMT
#57
i dare anyone here to trip to kid a

scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-13 13:07:34
October 13 2010 12:51 GMT
#58
On October 13 2010 03:57 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
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this. this so much.

On October 13 2010 09:29 jon arbuckle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:54 Offhand wrote:
On October 13 2010 08:28 jon arbuckle wrote:
Bro, even ignoring MBV's astounding EP track record, they have two great albums and one good compilation, depending on how you feel about C86er stuff.

In contrast, the Lilys aren't even one of the top three bands to release stuff on Slumberland. And they aren't shoegaze, as "shoegaze" qua movement is inseparable from 1987-1992 Creation Records stuff that metamorphosed into brit-pop bandwagon chasing (e.g. Ride, Lush). Anything on American shores came well after shoegaze had run its course and is better described as just "dream pop."


Later-era Lilys was much heavier into britpop then anything else, that doesn't change the fact that they've been around since 1988, released albums like Brief History, etc.

Modern shoegaze generally draws from more then one influence. But bands like Snowden or Autolux have nothing to do with dream pop, they have more in line with noise rock.


Nulla cetera. Early Lilys were MBV worship from the get-go and were one of many bands huddled around Slumberland/SpinART making Creation-jocking JAMC-cribbing noisy dreamy pop music. You can totally like them more than MBV - that's preference - but to say MBV have "one good album" and to draw a strawman of "people who like MBV pretend to be really into shoegaze" is straight quack talk.

"Modern shoegaze" is a misnomer because, again, a lot of "shoegaze" was geographic context, was a certain time and a certain attitude, q.v. "The Scene That Celebrates Itself." Their being a band in 1988 in the United States doesn't make them part of shoegaze any more than Half Japanese were part of no wave.

Which is to say that the Lilys, Black Tambourine, Velocity Girl, etc. are a result of shoegaze greeting American shores. Chronology doesn't matter; they come from a whole different scene than shoegaze and should be recognized as such. Call it "noise pop."

If by "they aren't dream pop, they're noise rock" you mean that Autolux or whoever takes more from the Jesus and Mary Chain side of the ur-shoegaze equation than the Cocteau Twins, fair enough. It's just that "noise rock" isn't expressly defined in terms of sound. "Noise rock" can be anything from Deerhoof to Acid Mothers Temple, so "they have nothing to do with dream pop, they have more in line with noise rock" is a pretty meaningless statement. I mean, "dream pop" isn't either, but when people use "shoegaze" to describe something that just has a lot of pedals and reverb and whispered vocals and some Slowdive influence or something it just makes me so mad I could post on the Internet some more.

We probably shouldn't start arguing about genre tags and the sounds they describe though because it eventually just turns into that Robert Frost poem "The Secret Sits."


Your shoegaze knowledge is impressive as hell. o.o

I'm a big fan of the genre but I never got into that much. I mostly listen to Slowdive, MBV, Swervedriver, The Naked Souls, etc. I do love the genre though and if you have any recommendations that would be awesome.

(sorry for going more off topic lol)
drewcifer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States192 Posts
October 13 2010 22:16 GMT
#59
sorry if this post sucks but just wanted to say thom yorke is a fucking gosu to my ears
and I find this song and music video made by some random to be fucking gosu as well


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