• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:29
CET 15:29
KST 23:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview8Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 KSL Week 85 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BW General Discussion Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Hager werken embalming powder+27 81 711 1572
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1368 users

I'm done with SC2.. - Page 2

Blogs > Spartan
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32113 Posts
September 23 2010 13:14 GMT
#21
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.

Yeah, team games aren't meant to be taken seriously without a partner. Or maybe they are, but I run into the same situation as you, so I just try to stick to 3v3 or shit that won't piss me off when I lose.
PROFESSIONAL GAMER - SEND ME OFFERS TO JOIN YOUR TEAM - USA USA USA
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 23 2010 13:26 GMT
#22
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.

And the best time I had in SC2 was with you mani <3
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 23 2010 13:45 GMT
#23
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.


awww how cute.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 23 2010 14:02 GMT
#24
Nothing better than 4v4ing with friends at a lan, doing only cheese and being extremely BM and loud to the opponents and your selves...
RawrAnOcean
Profile Joined February 2006
United States359 Posts
September 23 2010 14:02 GMT
#25
I can't even imagine playing without a partner. My friends are bad enough as is and we use vent, now a random player without vent would be tough. It probably won't be as bad in 3v3 or 4v4 if you want to try that. Then request one of your allies to be your 2v2 partner if they don't suck too much.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
September 23 2010 14:06 GMT
#26
Blizzard will never be able to make a perfect matchmaking system for Team games, just accept that you can't handle 1v1 and need someone to blame for your losses.

Just kidding! RTing is no way to play RTS games unless you want to break your computer, get/make friends to play with for team games with or stick to 1v1. Hell I still play with my BGH buddies from 10 years ago now in SC2. They are the reason why I actually play the game so much.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
September 23 2010 14:09 GMT
#27
On September 23 2010 20:24 Mikilatov wrote:
Wait so, you're playing RANDOM teams, and you're complaining about your partners sucking?

I'll agree that matching arranged and random teams together is shit, but whoever goes into random team games thinking that strong organization, teamwork, and quality players are all going to coexist is foolish.

If it bothers you this badly, just don't play random teams? D=


The point (obviously) is that you will be matched against another random team with the same handicap, and after many games your ability to overcome this will separate you from other random team players, that's part of the fun. Except in SC2 there is no fun in Random Team, it's you and 3 people that range from bronze league to top diamond vs an arranged team that usually has a 90% winrate and is going to kill you off in a manner where your skill means nothing, and telling your allies what to do or what your opponent is doing is not enough.
DrInfested
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 23 2010 14:25 GMT
#28
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.


I second that. Gaming with my brother is the BEST way to play 2v2.
Zerg 4 Life :3
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
September 23 2010 14:48 GMT
#29
I don't understand why people would even want to queue for 2v2 without a partner...
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
September 23 2010 14:54 GMT
#30
Protip: Don't play with random allies?

I always play with friends in team games.
The only minor exception to this would maybe be my 4v4 Randoms, Which I usually end up partying with a friend, so I'm in with him and 2 pubby allies... Makes it much more bearable.
(5)Twilight Star.scx --------- AdmiralHoth: There was one week when I didn't shave for a month.
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
September 23 2010 15:00 GMT
#31
On September 23 2010 23:54 TwilightStar wrote:
Protip: Don't play with random allies?

I always play with friends in team games.
The only minor exception to this would maybe be my 4v4 Randoms, Which I usually end up partying with a friend, so I'm in with him and 2 pubby allies... Makes it much more bearable.


Rewind a month ago and if you went into 4v4 random your allies would generally be around your level and its nice because you get to meet people to play with that are decent. I made a few friends playing 4v4 random because we'd see each other every game because there's only a few people in our skill range. With the matchmaking "fix" its turned to utter shit but hey, you get to play a shitty game much faster now.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 15:09:29
September 23 2010 15:07 GMT
#32
On September 23 2010 23:54 TwilightStar wrote:
Protip: Don't play with random allies?

I always play with friends in team games.
The only minor exception to this would maybe be my 4v4 Randoms, Which I usually end up partying with a friend, so I'm in with him and 2 pubby allies... Makes it much more bearable.


I've assembled a pro tip guide using your logic for SC2

No Chat Channels
Pro Tip: Use IRC

No LAN
Pro Tip: Get reliable internet or don't go to LAN parties

Terran possibly Overpowered?
Pro Tip: Pick Terran

My custom game can't be seen or played, it's not on popular list
Pro Tip: Don't make maps

Bnet is Down?
Pro Tip: Don't play Starcraft 2

I want to play fairly matched Random Team games when friends aren't on or I don't feel like playing with my friends:
Pro Tip: Don't play Random Team games
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
September 23 2010 15:09 GMT
#33
Take it, Justin!

ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
September 23 2010 15:30 GMT
#34
Don't play 2v2 unless you have a partner.

I exclusively play 1v1 unless my Korean Terran friend is online.
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
September 23 2010 15:34 GMT
#35
On September 24 2010 00:30 Uranium wrote:
Don't play 2v2 unless you have a partner.

I exclusively play 1v1 unless my Korean Terran friend is online.

lol you have 1 friend?

Anyway random usually sucks. If my friend and I play 3v3 with a random, the 3rd guy always sucks badly. 2v2 with randoms is usually terrible since they're half the team. But other than that, points are pretty meaningless. You're just being sucked into Blizz's mind-controlling methods.
Marines > everything
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
September 23 2010 15:41 GMT
#36
You need to stop raging so hard when you lose with random people Kris. Either play with people you know or play 1v1s... It's not that complicated. Random 2's seem pointless and boring.

So that game you lost vs me was with a random partner huh?
http://www.starcraftdream.com
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 15:51:56
September 23 2010 15:50 GMT
#37
I totally agree with you man haha.

I think that it is 10x harder to get in diamond 4v4 with a random team than to get in diamond in 1v1.

Most of my games i'm like 1v3 or 2v4. Quite good to practise your macro and your trashtalk :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 23 2010 16:13 GMT
#38
This is absolutely intentional. When the system finds two average Diamond opponents, it wants to find a bad player for you to balance out the teams because your MMR is likely very high (or was). If you don't want to be intentionally handicapped now and then, find some decent 2v2 partners.
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
September 23 2010 17:22 GMT
#39
If you truly care about your 2v2 ladder then just find a partner? Many resources for you to use to find one easily or you can just not care and play.
Never give up
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9106 Posts
September 23 2010 17:32 GMT
#40
Only play 1v1 unless you have a partner who is online?
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
HomeStory Cup
12:00
Day 1
TaKeTV2139
ComeBackTV 735
IndyStarCraft 300
SteadfastSC244
TaKeSeN 212
Rex125
CosmosSc2 93
3DClanTV 55
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
IndyStarCraft 300
SteadfastSC 244
Rex 125
CosmosSc2 93
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 3518
Bisu 2645
Jaedong 1629
Shuttle 1537
PianO 1123
Soma 864
Larva 664
firebathero 537
BeSt 496
Hyuk 411
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 340
Snow 335
actioN 301
Light 275
Zeus 207
Mini 194
Sharp 164
Soulkey 127
ggaemo 100
Movie 97
Hyun 96
Dewaltoss 82
Rush 72
Sea.KH 55
Mong 52
scan(afreeca) 51
ToSsGirL 45
[sc1f]eonzerg 44
Free 41
Mind 39
Bale 34
Backho 29
Shine 24
NaDa 22
Shinee 20
sorry 19
HiyA 18
soO 16
Terrorterran 16
zelot 15
910 14
SilentControl 14
GoRush 12
Sacsri 7
ajuk12(nOOB) 6
Dota 2
Gorgc3192
singsing2072
qojqva1721
Fuzer 168
420jenkins151
XcaliburYe122
Counter-Strike
fl0m3246
olofmeister2281
zeus1258
Other Games
B2W.Neo1768
hiko604
crisheroes444
Hui .218
oskar116
Mew2King69
djWHEAT68
QueenE0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 65
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4302
• WagamamaTV228
League of Legends
• Jankos3852
• TFBlade969
• Stunt918
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
12h 31m
HomeStory Cup
21h 31m
Replay Cast
1d 9h
HomeStory Cup
1d 22h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-29
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.