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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32149 Posts
September 23 2010 13:14 GMT
#21
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.

Yeah, team games aren't meant to be taken seriously without a partner. Or maybe they are, but I run into the same situation as you, so I just try to stick to 3v3 or shit that won't piss me off when I lose.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
September 23 2010 13:26 GMT
#22
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.

And the best time I had in SC2 was with you mani <3
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
September 23 2010 13:45 GMT
#23
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.


awww how cute.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
leveller
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1840 Posts
September 23 2010 14:02 GMT
#24
Nothing better than 4v4ing with friends at a lan, doing only cheese and being extremely BM and loud to the opponents and your selves...
RawrAnOcean
Profile Joined February 2006
United States359 Posts
September 23 2010 14:02 GMT
#25
I can't even imagine playing without a partner. My friends are bad enough as is and we use vent, now a random player without vent would be tough. It probably won't be as bad in 3v3 or 4v4 if you want to try that. Then request one of your allies to be your 2v2 partner if they don't suck too much.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
September 23 2010 14:06 GMT
#26
Blizzard will never be able to make a perfect matchmaking system for Team games, just accept that you can't handle 1v1 and need someone to blame for your losses.

Just kidding! RTing is no way to play RTS games unless you want to break your computer, get/make friends to play with for team games with or stick to 1v1. Hell I still play with my BGH buddies from 10 years ago now in SC2. They are the reason why I actually play the game so much.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
September 23 2010 14:09 GMT
#27
On September 23 2010 20:24 Mikilatov wrote:
Wait so, you're playing RANDOM teams, and you're complaining about your partners sucking?

I'll agree that matching arranged and random teams together is shit, but whoever goes into random team games thinking that strong organization, teamwork, and quality players are all going to coexist is foolish.

If it bothers you this badly, just don't play random teams? D=


The point (obviously) is that you will be matched against another random team with the same handicap, and after many games your ability to overcome this will separate you from other random team players, that's part of the fun. Except in SC2 there is no fun in Random Team, it's you and 3 people that range from bronze league to top diamond vs an arranged team that usually has a 90% winrate and is going to kill you off in a manner where your skill means nothing, and telling your allies what to do or what your opponent is doing is not enough.
DrInfested
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3 Posts
September 23 2010 14:25 GMT
#28
On September 23 2010 20:40 Manifesto7 wrote:
I think you need to game with a friend. The best time I had with SC2 was in beta with Plexa.


I second that. Gaming with my brother is the BEST way to play 2v2.
Zerg 4 Life :3
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
September 23 2010 14:48 GMT
#29
I don't understand why people would even want to queue for 2v2 without a partner...
TwilightStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States649 Posts
September 23 2010 14:54 GMT
#30
Protip: Don't play with random allies?

I always play with friends in team games.
The only minor exception to this would maybe be my 4v4 Randoms, Which I usually end up partying with a friend, so I'm in with him and 2 pubby allies... Makes it much more bearable.
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
September 23 2010 15:00 GMT
#31
On September 23 2010 23:54 TwilightStar wrote:
Protip: Don't play with random allies?

I always play with friends in team games.
The only minor exception to this would maybe be my 4v4 Randoms, Which I usually end up partying with a friend, so I'm in with him and 2 pubby allies... Makes it much more bearable.


Rewind a month ago and if you went into 4v4 random your allies would generally be around your level and its nice because you get to meet people to play with that are decent. I made a few friends playing 4v4 random because we'd see each other every game because there's only a few people in our skill range. With the matchmaking "fix" its turned to utter shit but hey, you get to play a shitty game much faster now.
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 15:09:29
September 23 2010 15:07 GMT
#32
On September 23 2010 23:54 TwilightStar wrote:
Protip: Don't play with random allies?

I always play with friends in team games.
The only minor exception to this would maybe be my 4v4 Randoms, Which I usually end up partying with a friend, so I'm in with him and 2 pubby allies... Makes it much more bearable.


I've assembled a pro tip guide using your logic for SC2

No Chat Channels
Pro Tip: Use IRC

No LAN
Pro Tip: Get reliable internet or don't go to LAN parties

Terran possibly Overpowered?
Pro Tip: Pick Terran

My custom game can't be seen or played, it's not on popular list
Pro Tip: Don't make maps

Bnet is Down?
Pro Tip: Don't play Starcraft 2

I want to play fairly matched Random Team games when friends aren't on or I don't feel like playing with my friends:
Pro Tip: Don't play Random Team games
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
September 23 2010 15:09 GMT
#33
Take it, Justin!

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Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
September 23 2010 15:30 GMT
#34
Don't play 2v2 unless you have a partner.

I exclusively play 1v1 unless my Korean Terran friend is online.
"Sentry imba! You see? YOU SEE??!!" - Sen | "Marauder die die!" - oGsMC | "Oh my god, she texted me back!" - Day[9]
vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
September 23 2010 15:34 GMT
#35
On September 24 2010 00:30 Uranium wrote:
Don't play 2v2 unless you have a partner.

I exclusively play 1v1 unless my Korean Terran friend is online.

lol you have 1 friend?

Anyway random usually sucks. If my friend and I play 3v3 with a random, the 3rd guy always sucks badly. 2v2 with randoms is usually terrible since they're half the team. But other than that, points are pretty meaningless. You're just being sucked into Blizz's mind-controlling methods.
Marines > everything
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
September 23 2010 15:41 GMT
#36
You need to stop raging so hard when you lose with random people Kris. Either play with people you know or play 1v1s... It's not that complicated. Random 2's seem pointless and boring.

So that game you lost vs me was with a random partner huh?
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-23 15:51:56
September 23 2010 15:50 GMT
#37
I totally agree with you man haha.

I think that it is 10x harder to get in diamond 4v4 with a random team than to get in diamond in 1v1.

Most of my games i'm like 1v3 or 2v4. Quite good to practise your macro and your trashtalk :p
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
September 23 2010 16:13 GMT
#38
This is absolutely intentional. When the system finds two average Diamond opponents, it wants to find a bad player for you to balance out the teams because your MMR is likely very high (or was). If you don't want to be intentionally handicapped now and then, find some decent 2v2 partners.
TheMunkey
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada470 Posts
September 23 2010 17:22 GMT
#39
If you truly care about your 2v2 ladder then just find a partner? Many resources for you to use to find one easily or you can just not care and play.
Never give up
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9110 Posts
September 23 2010 17:32 GMT
#40
Only play 1v1 unless you have a partner who is online?
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