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Diamond, but why?

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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 18 2010 12:58 GMT
#1
Yay I just got promoted from gold to rank 15 in diamond with 25-14. I have a question though what does this really change? I mean I have been facing diamond opponents constantly since I first landed in gold anyway. Besides, with these leagues being broken down into 1000's of separate divisions my rank in one particular division doesn't really tell me anything.

I noticed my points went down from 700 to 500. Are points entirely relative to the division I'm in or how does that work? And last, will I ever swap division again or am I stuck in this one forever since diamond is the highest division?

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dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
September 18 2010 13:13 GMT
#2
There is a thread that explains the whole matchmaking, ranking thing. Can't find it atm though
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NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
September 18 2010 13:14 GMT
#3
On September 18 2010 21:58 hifriend wrote:
Yay I just got promoted from gold to rank 15 in diamond with 25-14. I have a question though what does this really change? I mean I have been facing diamond opponents constantly since I first landed in gold anyway. Besides, with these leagues being broken down into 1000's of separate divisions my rank in one particular division doesn't really tell me anything.

I noticed my points went down from 700 to 500. Are points entirely relative to the division I'm in or how does that work? And last, will I ever swap division again or am I stuck in this one forever since diamond is the highest division?


You lose points when going up to another division. It happens because people in Bronze League have 1k points ez.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8267 Posts
September 18 2010 13:16 GMT
#4
When I was promoted from silver to platinum, I also lost 200 points. I believe its so you can't gather 2k points in bronze and then jump to diamond and have the best rank in the world
NoobStyles
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Australia257 Posts
September 18 2010 15:10 GMT
#5
On September 18 2010 22:16 Excludos wrote:
When I was promoted from silver to platinum, I also lost 200 points. I believe its so you can't gather 2k points in bronze and then jump to diamond and have the best rank in the world


NOOOOOO someone beats me to the dark voice and now i cant even cheat my way into the best ranked player in the world. This is clearly unfair


From what i can tell Blizzard decided to make a crazy and illogical ladder system, just cus. ELO means nothing you have a real rank, but they wont tell you what it is. My guess is that's being held back until we all see the light and hail in a new era of micro transactions!
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 18 2010 15:13 GMT
#6
To answer a few of your questions, no there is no league higher than diamond. Rank is meaningless, its the point rating next to your name that determines where you stand among others. I would say currently that 1000-1100 rating in diamond is mid-teir as the highest rating are just under 2000 right now.

What changes when you enter into diamond is the quality of players you face. When you are in gold, the diamond players you are challenging are probably hovering around 4-500 points (very low). When you start to climb up in diamond, you are playing people over 1000 rated etc. The skill difference is enormous.
Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
September 18 2010 16:03 GMT
#7
The matchmaking system tries to pair you against people with more points, that's all. If you keep winning, it will keep matching you against "better" players until you lose, then it will try one a little lower. This explains why the "I had a 10 game losing streak" stories are really common. Because what happens is the system is like, "man he keeps beating all of these people, well let's just throw him to even higher ranked players" then boom it works it's way down as you keep losing till it finds who you should play against. What I found is when I looked up people I played against, it would always do this, their rating was aroudn the same as me, and if I beat them, the rating was a little higher, if I went on a winning streak the rating was considerably higher (this is if it didn't have to expand search).
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