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How I conquered a (mini) slump

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xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
September 17 2010 19:00 GMT
#1
I’m going to go into my Starcraft 2 experience, which isn’t very interesting. What’s more important is how I went into a slump, why I went into a slump and how I got out of it. I’m not trying to tell you how to get out of a slump, I have no qualification to do that. Ask Day[9], or ask Bisu once he takes over the world again. All I am going to tell you is what worked for me and how I came to accomplishing my Starcraft goals.

I think it’s safe to say the average TL.netter that has been around since brood war experienced SC2 laddering the same way. Keeping in mind I’m assuming average is high D low D+ (I was about C-) Brood War skill. I’m sure all the really talented players had a completely different experience, but this is what happened to me.

I hear about it

“Oh here’s this new game, of course it won’t match up to brood war, but I think it’s important that I’m better than all of my friends at it.”

I see it

“Sure those graphics are fancy, but technology has nothing to do with depth and gameplay.”

I try it

“Wow now that I don’t have to split my probes or hotkey all of my production facilities separately the noobs are going to catch up to me much faster, I’d better not let this effect my brood war play”

I give in and buy it

“Hot diggity! With many Warcraft 3, WoW and FPS players, I should be at the top in no time!”

Climbing the ladder

“This isn’t too bad. Between Day[9] dailies, SC2reps.net and Liquipedia2 I should be a straight shooter to the top, not to mention all the weak Warcraft 3, WoW and FPS players trying their hand at SC2”

By this point I had begun the transition to becoming a complete Starcraft 2 player. I was so proud of the success I never experienced in brood war (success to me is being in diamond whereas in brood war I was one of a million D/C level players) that I gave up brood war altogether and concentrated on this newer, flashier version of the blizzard game I had wasted so many hours upon.

One day, I saw myself hit diamond. It was a very exciting day for me. I knew that most of Teamliquid was already at diamond, but I thought since I got there in under 15 games I must be some sort of prodigy, the next great unknown player. It took me a few weeks to work my way up to around 1000, points. And this whole time I was losing games, but it was never more than 1-2 games in a row and I would always be able to realize why I lost and learn from it.

Then this happened:

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I minor setback I suppose. But it was my first losing streak. Losing streaks tend to have a strong negative psychological influence on me. Instead of doing the smart thing and finding out why I lost, I came to the quick conclusion that void ray rushes are overpowered and that I need to just keep playing so I can get back to where I used to be.

This is an example of me approaching the ladder like some people do a casino.

“Hey, the ladder took 50 of my points! I’m staying here and playing more games for sure until I get them back”

Of course this is not at all the correct way to approach such a thing. Any veteran poker player will tell you if you let your emotions get the best of you, you can end up losing a lot of money. Which (on the ladder) is what happened to me right after this.

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[image loading]As an accounting major all that red really made my knees weak.


You’d think maybe I was just above my level, and that players around 1000 points were too much for me to handle. But when the games you’re losing go from this:

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To this:

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It’s not them, its you.

My solution:

Step 0: STOP PLAYING.
I was digging myself into a hole that would only get deeper if I didn’t take a step back

Step 1: Find the errors.
I went about this by reviewing my replays and finding all the points where the games went south, and why.

Was it my mechanics? No. I was keeping my money consistently under 1000
Was it my unit composition? No. I never lost because my unit composition was countered
Was it my underlying fundamental strategy? Yes.

What was wrong with it? I didn’t have any.

I realized what I had done to get so high on this ladder is copy the openings of big players, do what I saw them doing and win the same way they win. What major weakness does this strategy have? It’s not certain that I will realize why they chose those builds, and what those builds were working towards. Day[9] cited the importance of having and end-game plan. And I really didn’t have anything like that for any of the three matchups I was playing, all I had were tricks and openings that could be stopped or countered.

Step 2: correct the errors.

I realized by this point that I could never be a QXC or a TLO, but you might think I wanted to be with all the strange openings I was playing. As much as I love those two players I deleted all their replays from my database so I could focus on players with simpler (but for someone like me more effective) gameplay.

I had to stop thinking of myself as a –good- player and accept that I had some very basic errors with my gameplay that could be corrected. At this time I found these threads a huge help

Self-Improvement by Chill

Basic advice for people asking for help

Ver's guide to self-improvement, which is the only one of these three which I hadn't seen before. And I'm worried a lot of others missed it as well

Sure I was familiar with most of these concepts. But was I applying them? Not at all.

Not worrying about 250 apm and unit counters anymore, I began playing in a whole different way. No more 5 rax reaper, no more all-in pushes. I was determined to become a better overall player. And it is starting to work

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Sure I just lost a game, but it wasn’t because my all-in push failed, it wasn’t because I was way behind in money or units. I mismicroed, and as frustrating as that is that will happen, and I just have to accept it. It's much better than knowing I had no chance at all to win that game.

Many people above my level will find this information irrelevant, but I want those who are maybe new and never slumped before to save themselves a lot of pain by stepping away from the game and reorganizing their play.

This mini slump resulted in me missing a day of class, getting sick and getting a black eye. All three of those things being unrelated. Don't let it happen to you.


*****
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
September 17 2010 19:07 GMT
#2
I just posted a blog about a mini-slump(losing streak.) And i totally agree with you that losing would be the same as losing money in a casino. All it does to you is make you fork out more money to play more. For some reason, i was matched with quite a few diamond players, and I think I decided to be cute and do some sort of tech switch,which got me killed outright.

So i kept on playing and playing, but maybe because im i platinum i could still be matched with gold players.(Fyi, i lost 7 games in a row before playing a noob terran to gain a win.)I think we should not succumb to our emotions and play on but rather calm down and rationalise things before continuing playing.
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Rhyme
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1069 Posts
September 17 2010 19:15 GMT
#3
Good blog, really resounds with me. I just had my first ever losing streak - at 1100 points - of 7 games. I think it was particularly hard for me because the first 4 were extremely close ( in one, I had an opponent's pylon to 20 hp with my last 6 drones after a 15 minute game when he killed me), and the next 3 came out of tilt.

I'm gonna check out those links!

btw, I don't understand the 3rd and 4th screenshots.
dont ever say that
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
September 17 2010 19:17 GMT
#4
On September 18 2010 04:15 Rhyme wrote:
Good blog, really resounds with me. I just had my first ever losing streak - at 1100 points - of 7 games. I think it was particularly hard for me because the first 4 were extremely close ( in one, I had an opponent's pylon to 20 hp with my last 6 drones after a 15 minute game when he killed me), and the next 3 came out of tilt.

I'm gonna check out those links!

btw, I don't understand the 3rd and 4th screenshots.


I'm not really good with screenshots. The point is look at the minimap in both. I went from 3 bases ahead to 1 base behind. I definitely should've put up the food count instead of the APM as well
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
September 17 2010 21:12 GMT
#5
On September 18 2010 04:15 Rhyme wrote:
btw, I don't understand the 3rd and 4th screenshots.

I think you're supposed to look at the minimap. I did that at least and I have no clue how he lost that, unless he took every base on the map with no army.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23379 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 21:28:41
September 17 2010 21:27 GMT
#6
5 losses in a row is a slump? Do like 10+ and then its still a losing streak. =P
Heck, just now i lost 4 in a row, 3 frmo D/C's with one game literally won but he wouldn't leave, and 1 just not paying attention to my banelings in zvz. That's nothing.

Didn't day9 say he lost 14 games in a row recently? A slump is losing most of your matches of a few months, not 90 minutes of losing
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8278 Posts
September 17 2010 21:31 GMT
#7
On September 18 2010 06:27 Slayer91 wrote:
5 losses in a row is a slump? Do like 10+ and then its still a losing streak. =P
Heck, just now i lost 4 in a row, 3 frmo D/C's with one game literally won but he wouldn't leave, and 1 just not paying attention to my banelings in zvz. That's nothing.

Didn't day9 say he lost 14 games in a row recently? A slump is losing most of your matches of a few months, not 90 minutes of losing


Check out the second picture..

That is one of the more terrible things I've seen..I think I'm going to be sick.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23379 Posts
September 17 2010 22:30 GMT
#8
10? Not that bad.
xBTx
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada542 Posts
September 17 2010 22:40 GMT
#9
On September 18 2010 07:30 Slayer91 wrote:
10? Not that bad.


15 consecutive was a big deal for me. And the whole point is that instead of continuing to play and lose I made some small changes that had a big impact. This could've easily been 25-30 losses if I hadn't smartened up.
stuffing feathers up your butt doesnt make you a chicken
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