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FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 06:15:35
September 16 2010 05:49 GMT
#1
Read the last problem (#7) of my pset:

clicky

He sure didn't pull this problem from any book!

****
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1256 Posts
September 16 2010 05:50 GMT
#2
lol awesome prof!
BY.HERO FIGHTING!!!!
ooni
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia1498 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 05:54:07
September 16 2010 05:53 GMT
#3
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS
Hi!
AppleTart
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1261 Posts
September 16 2010 05:55 GMT
#4
made of win
always tired -_-
illu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2531 Posts
September 16 2010 05:55 GMT
#5
These questions seem pretty hard at first...
:]
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
September 16 2010 05:56 GMT
#6
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS

lol I wonder if the prof would actually give you some marks if you wrote something ridiculous like that hahaha
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Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
September 16 2010 05:56 GMT
#7
It's a trick question, you can never have that many zerglings and banelings at a time! Seriously though, I need to start doing things like this for the tests I give my students
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
September 16 2010 05:56 GMT
#8
On September 16 2010 14:55 illu wrote:
These questions seem pretty hard at first...


well it is an indirect brag blog if you look at the link saying which school he's going to.

But that is pretty cool
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Karliath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2214 Posts
September 16 2010 05:57 GMT
#9
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


-_-
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
September 16 2010 05:58 GMT
#10
nice brag blog
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
September 16 2010 05:59 GMT
#11
200 Zerglings and 800 Banelings

Tell him the boundaries of the game don't let you have 1000 Zerglings/Banelings so this question is impossible to solve because the situation can never happen.
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada967 Posts
September 16 2010 06:01 GMT
#12
u should call him out on making false facts about the zerg race. "Z-ling"s spawn from larva and "B-ling"s spawn from "Z-ling"s. but u really should shout "Spawn More Overlords" when answering that question
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Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
September 16 2010 06:07 GMT
#13
Cool. Why is it a brag blog? It is from MIT but it doesn't seem quantum physics hard.
Chesner
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Iceland817 Posts
September 16 2010 06:07 GMT
#14
He's probably on TL aswell! Hi Professor Zerg!
PENGUINS
aliasds
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada555 Posts
September 16 2010 06:08 GMT
#15
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


You, sir, have just won the blog.
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
September 16 2010 06:12 GMT
#16
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


HAHAHA nicee! At first I thought you actually solved it for me so I wouldn't have to. :D
manicsquare
Profile Joined June 2010
176 Posts
September 16 2010 06:40 GMT
#17
On September 16 2010 15:12 FiBsTeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


HAHAHA nicee! At first I thought you actually solved it for me so I wouldn't have to. :D


Have you solved it yet because i'm now interested in the answer except I can't do the match.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
September 16 2010 06:44 GMT
#18
Main page please This is so awesome.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
September 16 2010 06:45 GMT
#19
On September 16 2010 15:40 manicsquare wrote:
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On September 16 2010 15:12 FiBsTeR wrote:
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


HAHAHA nicee! At first I thought you actually solved it for me so I wouldn't have to. :D


Have you solved it yet because i'm now interested in the answer except I can't do the match.

+ Show Spoiler [big hint if you want it :/] +

If there are more B-lings than Z-lings at any point in time, is it possible for that to change to more Z-lings than B-lings in the next generation?
Translator:3
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 06:57:13
September 16 2010 06:47 GMT
#20
Max 400 z-lings and b-lings. Obviously your professor cheats.

Looked at the problem, this type of math seems fun!
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The solution is that the populations will balance at 800 - 800 (Or perhaps 799-799 is more like it) and thus cannot increase because there are no growth factors when z-b populations are equal. (I think)


Is the brag that it is MiT? I googled the teachers to try to find out, dont understand how this is a brag blog?
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Otakusan
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States59 Posts
September 16 2010 06:54 GMT
#21
This professor is obviously a noob because 200 Zerglings and 800 Banelings = 500 supply. Impossible situation.
wooozy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3813 Posts
September 16 2010 07:03 GMT
#22
On September 16 2010 15:54 Otakusan wrote:
This professor is obviously a noob because 200 Zerglings and 800 Banelings = 500 supply. Impossible situation.


Multiple players.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
September 16 2010 07:04 GMT
#23
broodlings and zerglings you sc2 neophytes
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 16 2010 07:17 GMT
#24
On September 16 2010 14:53 ooni wrote:
I'm sure helping with homeworks is not allowed in this forum but here's the answer to it anyway
+ Show Spoiler +
SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS


He should use the more technical term - O-lords.
professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
September 16 2010 07:19 GMT
#25
Nah, he's fine. It's only a brag blog if he skipped 6.042 and 6.046 and jumped straight into 6.854.
"The different branches of Arithmetic -- Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision." --Lewis Carroll
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 16 2010 07:25 GMT
#26
You should definately put "This player needs to spawn more O-lords" at the end of your answer, you'll get extra credit.
Ghad
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway2551 Posts
September 16 2010 07:54 GMT
#27
On September 16 2010 14:56 Thegilaboy wrote:
It's a trick question, you can never have that many zerglings and banelings at a time!



Lol, that is what i was thinking!


This processor is made of win.
forgottendreams: One underage girl, two drunk guys, one gogo dancer and starcraft 2. Apparently just another day in Europe.
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 07:59:55
September 16 2010 07:58 GMT
#28
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let b_n and z_n be the number of b-lings and z-lings of the nth generation.

inspection shows that if z_i - b_i > 0, then z_n - b_n is an unbounded monotone sequence as n grows. thus, we make our induction on the stronger assumption that z_n <= b_n. (this surely satisfies that z_n <= 2*b_n, since b_n < 2*b_n.)

hypothesis: if z_n <= b_n, then z_n+1 <= b_n+1.

prove that and you're done. you can rewrite it as b_n - z_n > 0. (there is a slight nuance if the difference is odd or even)
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 16 2010 08:00 GMT
#29
On September 16 2010 16:54 Ghad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 14:56 Thegilaboy wrote:
It's a trick question, you can never have that many zerglings and banelings at a time!



Lol, that is what i was thinking!


This processor is made of win.






On September 16 2010 16:54 Ghad wrote:

Lol, that is what i was thinking!


This processor is made of win.





On September 16 2010 16:54 Ghad wrote:

This processor is made of win.


wat
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Muirhead
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States556 Posts
September 16 2010 08:02 GMT
#30
You should totally mention additional O-lords in your answer and hint that he should come to CSL :D
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 08:04:11
September 16 2010 08:03 GMT
#31
Hahaha, it is a trick question, if you try to put the boundaries he wants you wouldn't get anything, you need to prove a stronger statement.

Anyhow, it is easy to show that:
The number of zlings after n+1 cycles is 200+600*2^n
The number of blings after n cycles is 200+600*2^n
LeoTheLion
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
China958 Posts
September 16 2010 08:12 GMT
#32
On September 16 2010 17:03 Klockan3 wrote:
Hahaha, it is a trick question, if you try to put the boundaries he wants you wouldn't get anything, you need to prove a stronger statement.

Anyhow, it is easy to show that:
The number of zlings after n+1 cycles is 200+600*2^n
The number of blings after n cycles is 200+600*2^n


2nd generation

200 zlings mate with 200 blings = 200 zlings and 200 blings

600 blings left over, so 300 pairs = 600 blings and 300 zlings.

total = 500 zlings and 800 blings, your formula doesn't work
Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy. -Chairman Mao
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
September 16 2010 09:17 GMT
#33
I wonder if you put:

Answer not possible, 200z-lings and 800 b-lings are past the 200 supply limit cap. GG

If he would give +1 point and not mark you incorrect...lmao Awesome Teacher
Why?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 09:26:21
September 16 2010 09:25 GMT
#34
lol....nice. But the answer is false. Reason: initial state there are 1/4 as many Z-lings as B-lings, and thus the condition "always" cannot be met.

[edit]
But if you see this on a test, you should write "You require more O-lords".
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CheAse
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada919 Posts
September 16 2010 10:13 GMT
#35
thats awesome! I wish I had a prof like that
SCV good to go sir
Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
September 16 2010 10:20 GMT
#36
Do the math, write it down and then add something about SC2 imho or just challenge him to a SC2 match over your grades
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Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
September 16 2010 11:11 GMT
#37
Hahaha your professor is awesome, so jealous.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
September 16 2010 11:47 GMT
#38
his allies gave him control of their units obviously :p
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
September 16 2010 12:04 GMT
#39
"It can be proven that the amount of z-lings and/or b-lings one could have at any given time could never exceed a total of 400, you would know this if you weren't such a bronze league newbie. GG no re."

Hand in, ace it.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
September 16 2010 12:25 GMT
#40
On September 16 2010 19:20 Carnac wrote:
Do the math, write it down and then add something about SC2 imho or just challenge him to a SC2 match over your grades

Might want to check his profile before that.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10771 Posts
September 16 2010 12:29 GMT
#41
LOL that was a funny question XD
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Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
September 16 2010 12:32 GMT
#42
That's badass. Solve it deadpan, then once the answer has been presented, finish with "this obviously presupposes that there are enough overlords" or something to that effect.

Cool professor, dude.
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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
September 16 2010 14:07 GMT
#43
This is totally awesome.

But don't assume your professor made up that question though! It could've been written by a bored TA.

I cracked up at "challenging your professor to a SC2 match over your grades."

Hahaha.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
September 16 2010 14:21 GMT
#44
b-lings could also be broodlings, which do not take up supply
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 16 2010 16:40 GMT
#45
I would totally just write a bullshit answer about the lore of starcraft and get brownie points.

Then just write the answer in the corner in small print, with a box around that.
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-16 17:24:01
September 16 2010 17:23 GMT
#46
On September 16 2010 17:12 LeoTheLion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2010 17:03 Klockan3 wrote:
Hahaha, it is a trick question, if you try to put the boundaries he wants you wouldn't get anything, you need to prove a stronger statement.

Anyhow, it is easy to show that:
The number of zlings after n+1 cycles is 200+600*2^n
The number of blings after n cycles is 200+600*2^n


2nd generation

200 zlings mate with 200 blings = 200 zlings and 200 blings

600 blings left over, so 300 pairs = 600 blings and 300 zlings.

total = 500 zlings and 800 blings, your formula doesn't work

Ah, sorry, saw it wrongly, I thought as if each bling made 2 blings and 1 zling. But that doesn't make it harder.
Neos
Profile Joined June 2009
United States400 Posts
September 16 2010 18:30 GMT
#47
Now I'm stuck thinking of zerglings and banelings mating. Lol.
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
September 16 2010 19:39 GMT
#48
On September 17 2010 03:30 Neos wrote:
Now I'm stuck thinking of zerglings and banelings mating. Lol.

If you think it through you realize that it isn't strange at all that both perish in the process.
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
September 16 2010 19:52 GMT
#49
Dude, that is awesome
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32153 Posts
September 16 2010 20:30 GMT
#50
The answer should only contain the following:
Name
Friend #
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GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
September 16 2010 21:07 GMT
#51
ANSWER: No wai, the number of B-ling = number of Z-ling becuz 1 Z-ling morphs into 1 B-ling.
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Mouth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States122 Posts
September 16 2010 21:13 GMT
#52
z-lings and b-lings reproducing, thats disgustnig. How about when the queen gets involved, thats some nasty 3-way action
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
September 16 2010 21:51 GMT
#53
B-ling gets excited and explodes... on the Z-ling... what?
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Phiggot03
Profile Joined December 2009
Vietnam132 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-17 03:32:25
September 17 2010 03:29 GMT
#54
The solution is obviously
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