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I am a web developer with a small bit of free time (in between working 8 hours, playing sc2, and watching gsl.) and am looking at making a community site. A friend and I were possibly interested in making a replay site dedicated to professional replays that was searchable based on keywords, by event, matchup, length, etc, but I'm not sure this is the best idea. Please let me know what kind of website you wish there was. A few of my ideas are
1. A replay site dedicated to starcraft with features like searching through tags, links to VODS, sorting by race, event, result, map, etc.
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
3. A dedicated league for different regions or servers or age groups or something. League would consist of playing 2 league games a week with a big tournament at the end of 8 weeks. Most likely will have a small qualifying tournament at the beginning for entry with top 32 playing. Qualifying tournament will require a small donation ($5) which will be used to pay the way for the player to go to korea to play in the GSL qualifiers.
4. A custom league website where anyone can create their own sc2 league, schedule matches (or automatic) and have automatic reporting, uploading of replays.
5. Your ideas for something.
Eventually I would love to do all of these, but I want to know what the community wants first.
 
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2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
This. We really lack that since WGT went down. With groups and etc would be the most awesome site ever. There's no free tournament website with groups that i know of.
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Why would you bother making a starcraft website when we already have TL?
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motbob
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On September 15 2010 02:28 Crunchums wrote:
Why would you bother making a starcraft website when we already have TL?
Did you just read the title, open up the thread and make this post without reading the OP?
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On September 15 2010 02:28 Crunchums wrote:
Why would you bother making a starcraft website when we already have TL?
Competition is ALWAYS good. We would never evolve if we just stayed on where we are.
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On September 15 2010 02:28 Pika Chu wrote:Show nested quote +
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
This. We really lack that since WGT went down. With groups and etc would be the most awesome site ever. There's no free tournament website with groups that i know of.
http://binarybeast.com/
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On September 15 2010 02:38 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 02:28 Pika Chu wrote:
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
This. We really lack that since WGT went down. With groups and etc would be the most awesome site ever. There's no free tournament website with groups that i know of. http://binarybeast.com/
Binarybeast was an absolute nightmare during the Minerva tournament.
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On September 15 2010 02:38 IntoTheWow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 02:28 Pika Chu wrote:
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
This. We really lack that since WGT went down. With groups and etc would be the most awesome site ever. There's no free tournament website with groups that i know of. http://binarybeast.com/
problem with binary beast is 1. it's not specifically tied to starcraft 2. no automatic reporting or notifications for players 3. it's in flash which means viewing is a problem on most phones.
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I think I should also ask, what kind of features do you want? (Do you really want chat channels?)
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Challonge is pretty damn amazing. But it's just so generic...
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The tournament idea (2) sounds nice.
I see no need for any of the other ideas since TL covers most of it perfectly 
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On September 15 2010 02:25 darmousseh wrote:
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
One idea that I had, but am too lazy to work on is a tournament site where the players need to log in to register, and then they upload their replays of the game. The site then automatically parses the replay to figure out the winner, then automatically updates the brackets. It would make running a tourny soooo much easier. You could also tie it in with replays since you require the players to upload them to confirm their results
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Please make a tournament website. Binarybeasy is a nightmare. The biggest feature I need is the ability to ctrl+f your name.
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i think (2) would be nice, especially a skill level cup like ESL does, but ESL you need to be premium, i signed up and still have like a week of free premium, but past that the only tourneys im gonna be allowed to sign up to would be some that have ppl like Dimaga and DeMusliM playing in them ><
of course, always nice to go and play agaisnt better players, but if youre up agaisnt someone that will straight up raaaaaape u so fast that u cant learn anything :p then theres no point. Altho u do get cool points for saying 'i lost vs MorroW/DeMusliM/enter famous name here'
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On September 15 2010 02:54 NukeTheBunnys wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 02:25 darmousseh wrote:
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
One idea that I had, but am too lazy to work on is a tournament site where the players need to log in to register, and then they upload their replays of the game. The site then automatically parses the replay to figure out the winner, then automatically updates the brackets. It would make running a tourny soooo much easier. You could also tie it in with replays since you require the players to upload them to confirm their results
Yeah, thats a part of it. I have access to a parser to do that already. I would also require a player email for registration. What will happen is a player signs up for a tournament, the tournament director chooses the players that play, players are emailed their assignments for games which includes a reporting link, and the bnet id of the other player. The players play the games, click on the reporting link, upload the replays. The games are parsed and the tournament is updated with the result, links to the replay (if desired). The director can then post links to VODS for each game and people can comment on each game/match. Directors will be able to handle disputes, make news about games, etc.
I also have to think of a way to fund the website. Hosting isn't free but it's not that expensive. I was thinking of trying to pay for it with just ads and donations since that would be the best.
EDIT: Also I should mention that obvious things that should be automated will be like the director will choose the number of games in a round (so that is automatic) or deadlines for posting results or signing up for tournaments. I think the tournament registration will simply be a link you can post anywhere, the link then takes you to a signup page where you either log in (if you have an account) or put in your email address and bnet id/server, and then at the bottom it would ask you for things like race, age, location, real name (optional), profile description(optional) and list the tournament requirements (like minimum or maximum league, age limits, location limits, game times, etc.)
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On September 15 2010 02:39 superbabosheki wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 02:38 IntoTheWow wrote:On September 15 2010 02:28 Pika Chu wrote:
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
This. We really lack that since WGT went down. With groups and etc would be the most awesome site ever. There's no free tournament website with groups that i know of. http://binarybeast.com/ Binarybeast was an absolute nightmare during the Minerva tournament.
Wasn't because of Binary Beast that it was a nightmare.
But a tournament website that had things like races and places for the character codes and replay/report places would be AMAZING. If you do that though, talk to some of the people who run tournaments and see what they want.
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haha i think there is an overwhelming amount of support for a tournament site. I think thats probably the best route then.
What kind of tournament options do you guys want?
Single Elimination (normal brackets)
Double Elimination (winners and losers bracket)
Swiss
group style (like world cup)
what are some others?
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On September 15 2010 02:37 motbob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 02:28 Crunchums wrote:
Why would you bother making a starcraft website when we already have TL? Did you just read the title, open up the thread and make this post without reading the OP?
cause TL is too general, and the OP is trying to make a SC2 site with specific features
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What i would personally want to see and use is a Replay Phraser, that focus on extracting usefully information for people to print out as like study sheets,
So have it extract the build orders and have them into a nice list
1:32: 9/10 pylon
2:53: 13/18 gate
3:14: 16/18 zealot
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On September 15 2010 05:05 HeyitsClay wrote:
What i would personally want to see and use is a Replay Phraser, that focus on extracting usefully information for people to print out as like study sheets,
So have it extract the build orders and have them into a nice list
1:32: 9/10 pylon
2:53: 13/18 gate
3:14: 16/18 zealot
Check out SC2gears it does that and more. I dont know if you can pull the data from SC2gears and put it somewhere you can print, but it will parse the replay and give you build orders. If you cant get the data out of there, just post in the SC2gears thread and with in a week or two the feature will prob be added(no joke, the amount of updates he puts out is crazy).
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I was considering creating a tournament website myself. It had similar ideas to yours, but also included 2 radical ideas:
1) Consistent player database - > all players will be stored for every tourney, with a small popup bio with bnet profile and custom link, so say HuKs info is persistent and readily available to viewers throughout all his tournaments. These can be sorted by game if you decide to branch to multi-game (wow, wc3, c&c) functionality. Care has to be taken to eliminate/reduce duplicate entries.
2) One screen display. I noticed many brackets require ridiculous vertical scrolling especially for large tournaments. This format displays eg. ro64 across the entire screen (grid like), click next and the winner "consumes" the loser in a javascript animation. This format can be a bit offputting, but is smooth and convenient for quick scanning. Perhaps it should be implemented as a "mode" of viewing beyond the regular mode.
These were mainly brainstorm ideas and their full practicality was not taken in account. If you want help with the front end, back end (php), or whatever let me know. Most importantly good luck!
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On September 15 2010 05:44 alexpnd wrote:
I was considering creating a tournament website myself. It had similar ideas to yours, but also included 2 radical ideas:
1) Consistent player database - > all players will be stored for every tourney, with a small popup bio with bnet profile and custom link, so say HuKs info is persistent and readily available to viewers throughout all his tournaments. These can be sorted by game if you decide to branch to multi-game (wow, wc3, c&c) functionality. Care has to be taken to eliminate/reduce duplicate entries.
2) One screen display. I noticed many brackets require ridiculous vertical scrolling especially for large tournaments. This format displays eg. ro64 across the entire screen (grid like), click next and the winner "consumes" the loser in a javascript animation. This format can be a bit offputting, but is smooth and convenient for quick scanning. Perhaps it should be implemented as a "mode" of viewing beyond the regular mode.
These were mainly brainstorm ideas and their full practicality was not taken in account. If you want help with the front end, back end (php), or whatever let me know. Most importantly good luck!
yeah, those are good ideas. I was already considering having player profiles with links and stuff, but I still need to determine the best way to display a bracket. I think the simplest way will just to put everything in a scrollable div or to put everything on a single page, but have links on the sides so you can quickly click to a bracket. I need to find a good graphic designer.
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I cant find anyway just to get the build oder from that site, im just sayin something simple and easy... I could just go in my match history and write down the build into a txt file then print it.
im just saying the only thing that i would like and cant find is a nice and simple build order extrator from a replay that is nice and formated and readable with out spending time editing everything
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On September 15 2010 06:25 HeyitsClay wrote:
I cant find anyway just to get the build oder from that site, im just sayin something simple and easy... I could just go in my match history and write down the build into a txt file then print it.
im just saying the only thing that i would like and cant find is a nice and simple build order extrator from a replay that is nice and formated and readable with out spending time editing everything
Can't sc2 gears do this?
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On September 15 2010 04:08 darmousseh wrote:
haha i think there is an overwhelming amount of support for a tournament site. I think thats probably the best route then.
What kind of tournament options do you guys want?
Single Elimination (normal brackets)
Double Elimination (winners and losers bracket)
Swiss
group style (like world cup)
what are some others?
That works.
Maybe a way for players to report results. (That'd be a BIG thing that any tournament organizer would love).
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if you tie the replays that players upload to confirm their games with the player name and allow users to search for all of a players replays, possibly all their replays vs a certain race I would love you forever
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On September 15 2010 02:39 superbabosheki wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2010 02:38 IntoTheWow wrote:On September 15 2010 02:28 Pika Chu wrote:
2. A tournament site where you can create your own starcraft 2 tournament (in multiple different styles like swiss or double elimination, etc) with features like automatic email notification for an upcoming match, allow players to report the results (requires player email), and allowing players to upload replays on the site and automatic tournament setup. Also ability to partially customize the tournament page.
This. We really lack that since WGT went down. With groups and etc would be the most awesome site ever. There's no free tournament website with groups that i know of. http://binarybeast.com/ Binarybeast was an absolute nightmare during the Minerva tournament.
QFT
BB crashing every 4 seconds
Unable to update brackets
BB crashing every 4 seconds
No mouse scrollwheel scroll
BB crashing every 4 seconds
No search
BB crashing every 4 seconds
BB crashing every 4 seconds
BB crashing every 4 seconds
Unable to update brackets
BB crashing every 4 seconds
No search
BB crashing every 4 seconds
Unable to update brackets
Even with 4 people working on it, it took 3 hours to finally get round 1 reported.
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On September 15 2010 12:12 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
if you tie the replays that players upload to confirm their games with the player name and allow users to search for all of a players replays, possibly all their replays vs a certain race I would love you forever
This is definitely a part of it (its actually really easy to do as well).
I bumped this because i need help from the TL community.
The biggest problem i'm having is relating to the bnet identification.
My current plan is:
You register with your email address (verifies its unique and send a verification email)
You input all of your bnet ids for the different servers (in case you have like one for NA, and one for EU, etc.)
You register for a tournament and you pick which bnet id to use. If the tournament is server specific then you pick a bnet id that you put for that specific server.
Now the question I have, and maybe someone has a good idea for is this.
What should I do to make sure that people don't try sign up for someone else's bnet id? and make them unable to register? I have to make the bnet ids (name#code) unique.
The possible solutions i have are.
1. Allow anyone to put any bnet id they want, tie the bnet id's to a specific email/user.
2. Make bnet ids unique and some sort of way to verify.
3. Make bnet ids unique, if there is a collision, then the person can request a manual verification. This verification take place by me manually adding the email of the person with the bnet id, checking it for validity, then either changing it or keeping it.
4. Some other method I haven't thought of.
Currently I'm thinking #1 is the only way to go, unless someone can suggest something better.
I'm about 20% done with the site.
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Wow, a series of satellite tournaments could be cool, sorta like in poker for the WSOP you could set it up so you have 128 or 256 people who enter a 5-10 dollar fee, and then along with sponsors, the winner could get the money to get the plane ticket to korea.
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EPT
