• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:38
CET 11:38
KST 19:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview5Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)38
StarCraft 2
General
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
KSL Week 85 HomeStory Cup 28 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
Bleak Future After Failed ProGaming Career Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Hager werken embalming powder+27 81 711 1572
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1333 users

[Replay packs] Void Ray in PvP (and PvT)

Blogs > NB
Post a Reply
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 12:13:53
August 15 2010 11:51 GMT
#1
The following is the replay packs (only 4 replay ) i laddered using VR in PvT and PvP.

http://www.mediafire.com/?voulo4rrscki3

Lots of people keep agree that VR is unusable in PvP with reason: stalkers, P most common units, are hard counter to VR.
I dont want to say its is wrong but i think that idea was missing 1 thing: VR is air units. With certain maps advantage, air units can do LOT of hurt to enemy's economy as soon as they stay in ground. Simple non related example would be psy-storm cant hit middle air area where there is no ground.

The following replay packs is the one i ladder (diamond low). You guys will notice how my macro in these game is gold level with minerals might rise up to "over 9000" but keep that in mind that i did it on purpose. in this build, you will mostly find yourself sitting on a huge pile of minerals that can easily be used to expand not only once, but if you are good enough, TWICE.

The basic idea is that on certain maps such as scrap station, LT, metal... There are spawn location has short air rush distant. The area between the mineral lines and the border of ground is small which help VR escape stalkers marines easily. harassing with VR while putting pressure on the enemy at the front gate will simply split their army in half and result a win for you on 1 side. in case the enemy army is not splitting mostly bc of 1 units control hotkey. you just retreat VR of your army when they come and plug the other side in.

BO:
+ Show Spoiler +
9 pylons
12 gates (or 13 14, i tended to delay gate timing later on depend on my scout and maps)
14 gas
17 cyber
2nd gas asap after cyber (now careful if you try to 14 gate, cyber delayed doesnt mean you can delay 2nd gas. it is crucial for air tech)
stalker after cyber finish + wrap tech
get another gate + a sentry + starport (actually starport right after 2nd gate if possible)
1 zealot so you have an army of 1 stalker 1 sentry 1 zealot, FF will help you hold off early marauder pressure
*wrap finish*

get what you would like for your army, attack their front while 1 vr killing probes/scv + expan




now notice:
1/keeping VRs alive is crucial in this strat. VRs number should stayed at 2 or 3 at ALL TIMES or else once your expo is up, they can do a counter pressure and finish you off

2/Chrono boots should be used flexibility depends on your scout. most of the time save 2 for 1st VR, use 1 on wrap tech the rest distribute on gates b4 wrap and nexus.

3/if you have any question + critic, free to comment or PM me anytime

4/ if you are mod, i would like to keep this in my blog rather than sc2 strategy subforum. The quality of the SC2 sub-forum is lowered day by day... how sad T__T

*
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Back
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
August 16 2010 22:07 GMT
#2
Very fun replays and very interesting strategy. People are always so quick with the "this won't work because x counters y'' but containing a player in his base using in and out void ray intimidation works beyond the scope of counters. I loved how you constantly shifted the pressure from front to back. Looks like it takes so pretty strong micro, especially to keep those VRs alive.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
August 16 2010 22:36 GMT
#3
I think VR are actually good PvP with stalker support, once they get charged they eat through stalkers like they arent even there
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 17 2010 07:28 GMT
#4
Yes, this is a very strong micro build which can be done in low level Protoss but super powerful when go with macro. You can just contain and get 3 bases up running.

@arb: yes but the HP of VR is not so high so direct battle is not always a good way to use them considering the time it cost to produce 1 VR is alot while at the same price, 2-3 stalkers can be re-produces pretty quickly with wrap tech.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 212
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 9700
Sea 6472
Bisu 2384
PianO 1117
Jaedong 457
Shuttle 411
Stork 375
Hyuk 328
actioN 258
Soma 225
[ Show more ]
Zeus 221
Mini 214
EffOrt 191
BeSt 178
Hyun 143
Light 137
Pusan 134
Soulkey 129
Snow 124
ggaemo 101
Mong 96
Dewaltoss 81
Backho 61
Sharp 58
Rush 47
ToSsGirL 43
NotJumperer 42
scan(afreeca) 41
Mind 41
Free 25
soO 23
Movie 23
Shine 22
Shinee 22
Bale 16
HiyA 15
Sacsri 12
sorry 11
GoRush 9
Terrorterran 8
SilentControl 6
Dota 2
XaKoH 591
Fuzer 166
XcaliburYe133
NeuroSwarm92
League of Legends
JimRising 360
Counter-Strike
zeus247
Other Games
gofns9304
crisheroes324
olofmeister249
ToD102
Mew2King94
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1671
• Lourlo1412
• Stunt502
Upcoming Events
HomeStory Cup
1h 22m
Korean StarCraft League
16h 22m
HomeStory Cup
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-29
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Rongyi Cup S3
HSC XXVIII
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.