• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:35
CEST 12:35
KST 19:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-64SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-63PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)9Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE15
StarCraft 2
General
Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week August World Ranking: Clem climbs to #2 Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Life's Huge Gambling Spree After IEM Katowice 2014
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) INu's Battles #19 2-Days Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
Making an Online Broodwar Manager Game ASL22 General Discussion BW Drama: Terror's Debt Incident + C9 disbanding [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 2v2v2v2 Tournament Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The Scarlett Fan Club The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6313 users

[Replay packs] Void Ray in PvP (and PvT)

Blogs > NB
Post a Reply
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-15 12:13:53
August 15 2010 11:51 GMT
#1
The following is the replay packs (only 4 replay ) i laddered using VR in PvT and PvP.

http://www.mediafire.com/?voulo4rrscki3

Lots of people keep agree that VR is unusable in PvP with reason: stalkers, P most common units, are hard counter to VR.
I dont want to say its is wrong but i think that idea was missing 1 thing: VR is air units. With certain maps advantage, air units can do LOT of hurt to enemy's economy as soon as they stay in ground. Simple non related example would be psy-storm cant hit middle air area where there is no ground.

The following replay packs is the one i ladder (diamond low). You guys will notice how my macro in these game is gold level with minerals might rise up to "over 9000" but keep that in mind that i did it on purpose. in this build, you will mostly find yourself sitting on a huge pile of minerals that can easily be used to expand not only once, but if you are good enough, TWICE.

The basic idea is that on certain maps such as scrap station, LT, metal... There are spawn location has short air rush distant. The area between the mineral lines and the border of ground is small which help VR escape stalkers marines easily. harassing with VR while putting pressure on the enemy at the front gate will simply split their army in half and result a win for you on 1 side. in case the enemy army is not splitting mostly bc of 1 units control hotkey. you just retreat VR of your army when they come and plug the other side in.

BO:
+ Show Spoiler +
9 pylons
12 gates (or 13 14, i tended to delay gate timing later on depend on my scout and maps)
14 gas
17 cyber
2nd gas asap after cyber (now careful if you try to 14 gate, cyber delayed doesnt mean you can delay 2nd gas. it is crucial for air tech)
stalker after cyber finish + wrap tech
get another gate + a sentry + starport (actually starport right after 2nd gate if possible)
1 zealot so you have an army of 1 stalker 1 sentry 1 zealot, FF will help you hold off early marauder pressure
*wrap finish*

get what you would like for your army, attack their front while 1 vr killing probes/scv + expan




now notice:
1/keeping VRs alive is crucial in this strat. VRs number should stayed at 2 or 3 at ALL TIMES or else once your expo is up, they can do a counter pressure and finish you off

2/Chrono boots should be used flexibility depends on your scout. most of the time save 2 for 1st VR, use 1 on wrap tech the rest distribute on gates b4 wrap and nexus.

3/if you have any question + critic, free to comment or PM me anytime

4/ if you are mod, i would like to keep this in my blog rather than sc2 strategy subforum. The quality of the SC2 sub-forum is lowered day by day... how sad T__T

*
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Back
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada505 Posts
August 16 2010 22:07 GMT
#2
Very fun replays and very interesting strategy. People are always so quick with the "this won't work because x counters y'' but containing a player in his base using in and out void ray intimidation works beyond the scope of counters. I loved how you constantly shifted the pressure from front to back. Looks like it takes so pretty strong micro, especially to keep those VRs alive.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 16 2010 22:36 GMT
#3
I think VR are actually good PvP with stalker support, once they get charged they eat through stalkers like they arent even there
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 17 2010 07:28 GMT
#4
Yes, this is a very strong micro build which can be done in low level Protoss but super powerful when go with macro. You can just contain and get 3 bases up running.

@arb: yes but the HP of VR is not so high so direct battle is not always a good way to use them considering the time it cost to produce 1 VR is alot while at the same price, 2-3 stalkers can be re-produces pretty quickly with wrap tech.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech82
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 1089
Horang2 762
Jaedong 616
Shuttle 398
Larva 389
Shine 286
Killer 255
Soma 205
ggaemo 189
PianO 182
[ Show more ]
Hyun 179
EffOrt 135
Rush 121
JulyZerg 118
Snow 111
ToSsGirL 102
Noble 96
Light 94
hero 52
Pusan 50
Sharp 39
Bale 36
sSak 27
Terrorterran 26
Sacsri 25
HiyA 16
sorry 12
Dota 2
Gorgc8261
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1958
byalli82
kRYSTAL_79
Other Games
singsing1214
crisheroes251
Sick247
Pyrionflax186
Mew2King70
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 15
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 52
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV52
League of Legends
• Stunt606
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
26m
Patches Events
5h 26m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 26m
INu's Battles
1d
Percival vs Zoun
Cure vs Rogue
ByuN vs Classic
Clem vs NightMare
PiGosaur Cup
1d 13h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
INu's Battles
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
RSL Revival: Season 6
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5
Escore Tournament S3: W6
Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.