• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:21
CEST 04:21
KST 11:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 21ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon265.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes30Weekly Cups (June 22-28): Zergs thrive in new patch2[TLMC] Summer 2026 Ladder Map Rotation05.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)99
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon HomeStory Cup In Early July 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 29 Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery Mutation # 530 One For All
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool First season(s) of tastosis gomtv gsl vods? Best thing happen to StarCraft since Remastered?
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] GosuLeague Casts - Tue & Thu 22:00 CEST
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace at Steam NextFest - Last free demo Path of Exile
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Men's Fashion Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The HerO Fan Club! The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Listen To The Coaches!
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4158 users

I just had the worst zerg flub ever.

Blogs > onmach
Post a Reply
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 02:51:54
August 02 2010 02:50 GMT
#1
The scene is delta quadrant. The matchup is ZvT. He spawns top left, I spawn bottom left.

Early game nothing special happens. I make more zerglings than I normally do, he snipes an overlord because I can't find any place to put it. I snipe his marines that are returning from sniping my overlord. We're pretty much even. I see a reactor barracks and another barracks so I'm looking for marine marauder.

I put down a baneling nest and keep droning. I decide I'm going to bust his ramp because he has three supply depots in an arc, which might as well be an invitation.

I check my drone count, by double clicking, and it says I have around 20. It looks a bit low so I add more drones.

I perform the baneling bust, but he lowers his depots, and the banelings end up killing all his marines instead. I managed to get there before stim finished, so the zerglings cut into his marauder count a bit. At this point I'm low on minerals, so I'm putting more drones on.

I check my drone count at my main. Somethings wrong, 30 drones show up when I double click but visually there's no more than 12 drones mining, with 3 of them on gas. WTF.

So then the marauders push out, and I make some zerglings but I'm hurting for minerals. I keep coming back to my mineral line and I'm confused as hell as to why I have no fucking drones mining when double clicking shows 30. I'm searching all over my main for missing drones, but there aren't any. He pushes out and takes out my natural, I'm basically running on a 6 pool economy at this point.

I gg and look over the replay. Turns out what happened was that on this particular map, at this particular spawn, the shadow of the geyser falls just on top of where the drones enter the geyser. I somehow, perhaps when I was putting a drone on gas, rallied my hatchery to the geyser.

Right next to the geyser, in the deep shadow, completely hidden from my view, there was a pile of 19 drones sitting there waiting to get into the geyser.

And now I know why people play on low settings.

*****
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 02 2010 02:57 GMT
#2
Ouch! That is a shame that the shadows hid all the entering drones. Not much to do about that, low settings are just fine anyways for laddering.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
August 02 2010 02:57 GMT
#3
Ouch dude. That sucks, but I won't lie... I did laugh a little.

Is this an official map? And hopefully this wasn't an epically important game.
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
August 02 2010 02:58 GMT
#4
>.< Oh man, that must suck. I feel for ya!
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
August 02 2010 03:11 GMT
#5
LOL

WHERE IS YOUR UNIT STACKING GOD NOW, SC2?

In all seriousness though, that sucks really hard and I'm sorry. There are so many situations when workers are hard to individually select, hard to retrieve from rally without disturbing others, or just plain stacked too fucking hard in both games.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 02 2010 03:11 GMT
#6
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..

Ok. Now that I'm done giggling, that sucks dude. And yes, this is why people play on low settings. Even though my computer can still barely handle the low settings, I am happy that I suffer no such problems when I play. Then again, I'm Terran so....eh.

Once again, that sucks, but may this be a lesson. Low settings are the best.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 02 2010 03:17 GMT
#7
Clicking a mineral would help immensly
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 02 2010 03:45 GMT
#8
I don't know why you don't box minerals, that would solve everything.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 02 2010 03:53 GMT
#9
Couldn't you have just checked your hatchery's rally point? Having a bad rally point cost you a game sucks, but at least it'll never happen again
:)
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:07:10
August 02 2010 04:05 GMT
#10
I know, it sounds obvious now, but I was really confused. In the past when I mis rally, there will be a bunch of units stationed somewhere in my base, usually in a corner. But this time they were missing entirely.

At first I thought maybe it was some sort of selection bug. But no, my supply was all taken up by something, and I had barely anything else. And then I thought maybe they were invisible, but no, there's definitely a lack of minerals here.

But I was looking, and every drone was mining properly. I kept portrait selecting a single drone, and it kept selecting a drone that was doing something proper, like mining. I tried hotkeying them and then double tapping to center on them, hoping it would center off to the side, giving me a clue where the others were. Even when I was watching the replay I had to box select small groups of drones before I narrowed it down to the gas mine.

By the time I noticed something was wrong, both of my hatcheries were rallied to my nat, so it was too late to notice that. I've never rallied to gas before so the possibility of this happening, and me not noticing immediately, just never entered my mind, not even for a second.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
August 02 2010 04:16 GMT
#11
Do you play with health bars always on?
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
August 02 2010 04:31 GMT
#12
Yes I do. I seem to tune them out when I'm playing unless there is a reason to look at them.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
August 02 2010 05:15 GMT
#13
lol, i had a weird experience with missing units as well. i was in a game id probably lose anyways, but to maybe get him to pull back his death army, i go to the vespene geyser where i left my mutas and all i see are shadows, and half a muta sticking out of the boundary of the map. im guessing they all went past the boundary somehow, which was odd.
How's the weather down there?
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
August 02 2010 05:16 GMT
#14
lol, making up for all the time you only had 2 drones on gas i see.
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
August 02 2010 05:26 GMT
#15
Haha.

I did this once as well in a PvP. Realized midgame what was going on and told my opponent. Almost held him off, but not quite
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7h 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech120
RuFF_SC2 36
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3871
GuemChi 3284
Artosis 624
NaDa 50
Bale 23
Noble 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm136
League of Legends
Doublelift2651
JimRising 581
Counter-Strike
summit1g9490
taco 228
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox468
Other Games
ViBE901
Day[9].tv818
C9.Mang0551
Maynarde134
UpATreeSC67
Mew2King39
ToD10
JuggernautJason9
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV238
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream186
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 64
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 128
• davetesta23
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21475
League of Legends
• Jankos328
• Stunt231
Other Games
• Day9tv818
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
7h 39m
HomeStory Cup
8h 39m
Replay Cast
21h 39m
HomeStory Cup
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
HomeStory Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
Douyu Cup 2026
Murky Cup 2026

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL Season 21: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S3: W1
SCTL 2026 Spring
HSC XXIX
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
Escore Tournament S3: W2
ASL Season 22:Wild Card Qualifier
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Heroes Pulsing #3
Eternal Conflict S2 E1
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.