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I just had the worst zerg flub ever.

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onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 02:51:54
August 02 2010 02:50 GMT
#1
The scene is delta quadrant. The matchup is ZvT. He spawns top left, I spawn bottom left.

Early game nothing special happens. I make more zerglings than I normally do, he snipes an overlord because I can't find any place to put it. I snipe his marines that are returning from sniping my overlord. We're pretty much even. I see a reactor barracks and another barracks so I'm looking for marine marauder.

I put down a baneling nest and keep droning. I decide I'm going to bust his ramp because he has three supply depots in an arc, which might as well be an invitation.

I check my drone count, by double clicking, and it says I have around 20. It looks a bit low so I add more drones.

I perform the baneling bust, but he lowers his depots, and the banelings end up killing all his marines instead. I managed to get there before stim finished, so the zerglings cut into his marauder count a bit. At this point I'm low on minerals, so I'm putting more drones on.

I check my drone count at my main. Somethings wrong, 30 drones show up when I double click but visually there's no more than 12 drones mining, with 3 of them on gas. WTF.

So then the marauders push out, and I make some zerglings but I'm hurting for minerals. I keep coming back to my mineral line and I'm confused as hell as to why I have no fucking drones mining when double clicking shows 30. I'm searching all over my main for missing drones, but there aren't any. He pushes out and takes out my natural, I'm basically running on a 6 pool economy at this point.

I gg and look over the replay. Turns out what happened was that on this particular map, at this particular spawn, the shadow of the geyser falls just on top of where the drones enter the geyser. I somehow, perhaps when I was putting a drone on gas, rallied my hatchery to the geyser.

Right next to the geyser, in the deep shadow, completely hidden from my view, there was a pile of 19 drones sitting there waiting to get into the geyser.

And now I know why people play on low settings.

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GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 02 2010 02:57 GMT
#2
Ouch! That is a shame that the shadows hid all the entering drones. Not much to do about that, low settings are just fine anyways for laddering.
sLiniss
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States849 Posts
August 02 2010 02:57 GMT
#3
Ouch dude. That sucks, but I won't lie... I did laugh a little.

Is this an official map? And hopefully this wasn't an epically important game.
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
August 02 2010 02:58 GMT
#4
>.< Oh man, that must suck. I feel for ya!
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
August 02 2010 03:11 GMT
#5
LOL

WHERE IS YOUR UNIT STACKING GOD NOW, SC2?

In all seriousness though, that sucks really hard and I'm sorry. There are so many situations when workers are hard to individually select, hard to retrieve from rally without disturbing others, or just plain stacked too fucking hard in both games.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
August 02 2010 03:11 GMT
#6
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..

Ok. Now that I'm done giggling, that sucks dude. And yes, this is why people play on low settings. Even though my computer can still barely handle the low settings, I am happy that I suffer no such problems when I play. Then again, I'm Terran so....eh.

Once again, that sucks, but may this be a lesson. Low settings are the best.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 02 2010 03:17 GMT
#7
Clicking a mineral would help immensly
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
August 02 2010 03:45 GMT
#8
I don't know why you don't box minerals, that would solve everything.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 02 2010 03:53 GMT
#9
Couldn't you have just checked your hatchery's rally point? Having a bad rally point cost you a game sucks, but at least it'll never happen again
:)
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 04:07:10
August 02 2010 04:05 GMT
#10
I know, it sounds obvious now, but I was really confused. In the past when I mis rally, there will be a bunch of units stationed somewhere in my base, usually in a corner. But this time they were missing entirely.

At first I thought maybe it was some sort of selection bug. But no, my supply was all taken up by something, and I had barely anything else. And then I thought maybe they were invisible, but no, there's definitely a lack of minerals here.

But I was looking, and every drone was mining properly. I kept portrait selecting a single drone, and it kept selecting a drone that was doing something proper, like mining. I tried hotkeying them and then double tapping to center on them, hoping it would center off to the side, giving me a clue where the others were. Even when I was watching the replay I had to box select small groups of drones before I narrowed it down to the gas mine.

By the time I noticed something was wrong, both of my hatcheries were rallied to my nat, so it was too late to notice that. I've never rallied to gas before so the possibility of this happening, and me not noticing immediately, just never entered my mind, not even for a second.
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
August 02 2010 04:16 GMT
#11
Do you play with health bars always on?
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
onmach
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1241 Posts
August 02 2010 04:31 GMT
#12
Yes I do. I seem to tune them out when I'm playing unless there is a reason to look at them.
eLiE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1039 Posts
August 02 2010 05:15 GMT
#13
lol, i had a weird experience with missing units as well. i was in a game id probably lose anyways, but to maybe get him to pull back his death army, i go to the vespene geyser where i left my mutas and all i see are shadows, and half a muta sticking out of the boundary of the map. im guessing they all went past the boundary somehow, which was odd.
How's the weather down there?
Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
August 02 2010 05:16 GMT
#14
lol, making up for all the time you only had 2 drones on gas i see.
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
August 02 2010 05:26 GMT
#15
Haha.

I did this once as well in a PvP. Realized midgame what was going on and told my opponent. Almost held him off, but not quite
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