• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:55
CEST 17:55
KST 00:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy4Code S RO8 Preview: herO, Zoun, Bunny, Classic7Code S RO8 Preview: Rogue, GuMiho, Solar, Maru3BGE Stara Zagora 2025: Info & Preview27
Community News
Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."2Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey.8Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2)14BGE Stara Zagora 2025 - Replay Pack2Weekly Cups (June 2-8): herO doubles down1
StarCraft 2
General
Jim claims he and Firefly were involved in match-fixing How herO can make history in the Code S S2 finals Rogue & GuMiho RO8 interviews: "Lifting that trophy would be a testament to all I’ve had to overcome over the years and how far I’ve come on this journey. Code S RO8 Results + RO4 Bracket (2025 Season 2) Classic & herO RO8 Interviews: "I think it’s time to teach [Rogue] a lesson."
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $3,500 WardiTV European League 2025 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SOOPer7s Showmatches 2025
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL20 Preliminary Maps BW General Discussion Recent recommended BW games FlaSh Witnesses SCV Pull Off the Impossible vs Shu
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] ProLeague Bracket Stage - Day 4
Strategy
I am doing this better than progamers do. [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason What do you want from future RTS games?
Dota 2
Best crypto recovery experts in the world Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Vape Nation Thread
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Korean Music Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NHL Playoffs 2024 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
A Better Routine For Progame…
TrAiDoS
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 33821 users

Introducing a literary blog!

Blogs > Dienosore
Post a Reply
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 19:43:02
July 25 2010 18:14 GMT
#1
That pokemon thread was getting a ton of attention so I was going to start a blog on me doing a Nuzlocke run with pictures and shit, but then I did a search of 'pokemon' right off the main page and found about 39 matches in o.oo5 seconds.

Figured it was about time to do something different. I thought about the other things I like and the most appropriate for the internet was literature. Only 11 hits for the word 'literature' and only 1 for 'literary'.

Since most of my free time not spent on videogames, surfing, or playing sports is generally spent on smoking and having incredible literary flashes of genius(haha), it might be cool to write it all down and share it with everyone.

Also, I thought it might be neat to interview the writers from the TL staff and just see how much of a role their writing actually plays in their life. (If thats you reading this, send me a pm )

I'll have other shit, too (hopefully). Music and pictures and whatnot.

If nothing else, it will be cool at least to document some ideas and stuff before I forget, haha. Alright, thats it. Hope you guys enjoy --

[image loading]

*
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
July 25 2010 18:38 GMT
#2
I look forward to reading your incredible literary flashes of genius, best not disappoint.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 19:07:09
July 25 2010 19:06 GMT
#3
_._

all good writers are dead
Fame was like a drug. But what was even more like a drug were the drugs.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
July 25 2010 19:07 GMT
#4
Sounds like an opportunity to shock the world, then, doesn't it?
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 25 2010 19:12 GMT
#5
Write something !

Each day gets better : )
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
July 25 2010 19:17 GMT
#6
I'll be looking forward to good writing then! :D
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4835 Posts
July 25 2010 19:32 GMT
#7
This looks like a good place to drop literary insight.

Contrary Motion is essential. Everything in the world cannot be going the same direction at once.

This manifests itself in a hundred different ways, but the easiest to apply are probably:
1) No unconditional victories - something is always wrong
2) No unconditional defeats - something is always right
3) As threads of plot conclude, new threads are born (life goes on)
My strategy is to fork people.
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 25 2010 19:34 GMT
#8
I always really was into this

Vonnegut listed eight rules for writing a short story:

1. Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted.
2. Give the reader at least one character he or she can root for.
3. Every character should want something, even if it is only a glass of water.
4. Every sentence must do one of two things—reveal character or advance the action.
5. Start as close to the end as possible.
6. Be a Sadist. No matter how sweet and innocent your leading characters, make awful things happen to them—in order that the reader may see what they are made of.
7. Write to please just one person. If you open a window and make love to the world, so to speak, your story will get pneumonia.
8. Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible. To hell with suspense. Readers should have such complete understanding of what is going on, where and why, that they could finish the story themselves, should cockroaches eat the last few pages.
Each day gets better : )
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-25 20:27:13
July 25 2010 20:26 GMT
#9
On July 26 2010 04:32 Severedevil wrote:
This looks like a good place to drop literary insight.

Contrary Motion is essential. Everything in the world cannot be going the same direction at once.

This manifests itself in a hundred different ways, but the easiest to apply are probably:
1) No unconditional victories - something is always wrong
2) No unconditional defeats - something is always right
3) As threads of plot conclude, new threads are born (life goes on)


1) Something is always wrong is true. Part of what makes well developed characters so interesting is that they have the bad along with the good. Then, playing their dynamic personalities and histories against each other is what really drives situations in a story.

Though, its not enough to give your character a bad habit or a troubled background and consider him finished. You have to work it into the story, into his every action. Every time you have him doing something, remind yourself of his flaws and ask yourself how that would change things.

It's easy here to be cheesy, though. Unless that is what you are going for, be careful to not fall into cliches and stock characters/situations.

2) I don't know if I agree here. Defeats can be unconditional. Sometimes, all there is to losing is that you lost. A good thing to remember here is that for every loss, there usually is a win for someone or something else. Don't be afraid to explore the other side.

3) Couldn't agree more, here. Plus, the market today is set up for sequals If you are looking to turn whatever into a commercial success, always leave yourself an opening for a 'next chapter'. You don't always have to do the next chapter, but why limit yourself. You may want to explore the work later.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
July 25 2010 20:50 GMT
#10
On July 26 2010 04:34 ella_guru wrote:
I always really was into this

Vonnegut listed eight rules for writing a short story:

1. Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted.
2. Give the reader at least one character he or she can root for.
3. Every character should want something, even if it is only a glass of water.
4. Every sentence must do one of two things—reveal character or advance the action.
5. Start as close to the end as possible.
6. Be a Sadist. No matter how sweet and innocent your leading characters, make awful things happen to them—in order that the reader may see what they are made of.
7. Write to please just one person. If you open a window and make love to the world, so to speak, your story will get pneumonia.
8. Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible. To hell with suspense. Readers should have such complete understanding of what is going on, where and why, that they could finish the story themselves, should cockroaches eat the last few pages.


1. Not quite sure what you mean here. A total stranger as in a character? Or like an actual stranger on the street? I agree with the not wasting time bit, though. Have to make sure every sentence has a purpose. This is what the revision process is for.

2. Doesn't always have to be a 'good guy' either. Or even a straight up bad guy. Most of the time, people connect more easily with someone who is struggling with something. If they are in the same struggle, then they naturally will root for the similar character to pull through.

3. A professor of mine whom I greatly look up to wisely said that you HAVE to have conflict to drive a story. If you give your characters these wants, eventually the wants are going to conflict and you get action.

4. Agreed. Once again, revision is essential for fine tuning your piece to do exactly what you want it to do. Don't feel pressured to get it perfect on the first try. It can hang you up during the important initial writing stages.

5. I guess this is just a stylistic pacing thing. I say that if you think you can get away with having a story start far from the end and not have it get boring, then go for it. Nowadays though people like quick injections of literature rather than an elaborately laid out 800 page engineering job.

6. Again with the conflict thing. If no one suffers (or inversely, if no one profits), you just don't have a story. You just have a retelling of events.

7. I like this, I think. A major part of writing that a person forgets is the audience. If you narrow your audience down to as small as possible, it creates a new sort of product that has been shaped according to the tight parameters of the smaller audience. Stylistically, linguistically, content. You may not find commercial success right away, but hopefully other people will eventually catch on and learn to enjoy the new product. In terms of having a little artistic direction before I write, I always ask myself, "Who is this really for?"

8. Bleh, don't agree here. Would y'all still have watched LOST and 24 if you always had all of the information? I'm not suggesting leaving readers totally in the dark (unless that is your purpose), but a little suspense never hurt anything. Just be sure to reveal things slow to keep 'em hooked, but not too slow that things get stuffy.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4835 Posts
July 25 2010 21:07 GMT
#11
Ignoring for the moment that LOST and 24 are shitty, they're not short stories. Short stories don't have time to piss away.
My strategy is to fork people.
Dienosore
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Brunei Darussalam622 Posts
July 26 2010 05:37 GMT
#12
If you can do suspense like Poe, then would it still be a bad thing to have in a short story?

[image loading]
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .319
trigger 90
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 32242
Calm 9070
Rain 5595
Horang2 2287
EffOrt 1102
Stork 625
PianO 564
BeSt 289
actioN 268
sSak 84
[ Show more ]
Hyun 82
Sea.KH 68
Shinee 41
Terrorterran 32
Movie 26
Aegong 25
zelot 18
Killer 17
Noble 12
ivOry 5
Zeus 0
Dota 2
Gorgc5969
qojqva2582
Dendi2538
XcaliburYe281
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
fl0m4560
Foxcn1044
rGuardiaN55
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King145
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor724
Other Games
tarik_tv14925
singsing1881
B2W.Neo1540
Beastyqt473
C9.Mang0395
FrodaN291
Fuzer 191
KnowMe151
RotterdaM134
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream14150
Other Games
EGCTV569
gamesdonequick262
StarCraft 2
WardiTV34
Other Games
BasetradeTV7
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• maralekos20
• HeavenSC 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3257
• WagamamaTV524
• Ler94
League of Legends
• Jankos3094
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Qualifier
5m
BSL: ProLeague
2h 5m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
Cross vs Doodle
MadiNho vs Dragon
Replay Cast
8h 5m
Wardi Open
19h 5m
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
Cure vs Percival
ByuN vs Spirit
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs sOs
Zoun vs Clem
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
Serral vs SHIN
Solar vs Cham
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs Scarlett
ShoWTimE vs Classic
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
SC Evo League
5 days
Circuito Brasileiro de…
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-06-11
BGE Stara Zagora 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
BLAST Open Fall 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.