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BallMan
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 09:13:23
July 20 2010 02:30 GMT
#1


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Prepare for doom
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 02:39:39
July 20 2010 02:38 GMT
#2
Careful.

Don't risk your future on something as flaky as progaming, especially in the foreign scene where it is so rare. You sound dedicated, inspired, and are clearly a hardworker, but you absolutely must ensure that you have something else in your life to fall back on (school, another career path/interest, etc).

It's great that you want to try this, but you should be intelligent enough to realize that making a living off of SC2 within the next year is, at best, a highly impractical future.

Good luck!
BallMan
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
July 20 2010 02:40 GMT
#3
Thanks for the blunt advice Elegy. I do work in fine dining and am prepared to take Sommelier classes if my dream of playing Starcraft 2 doesnt workout :D I always thought I was passionate about food and wine but it doesnt even compare to my love for Starcraft!
Prepare for doom
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
July 20 2010 02:42 GMT
#4
Then full steam ahead!
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
July 20 2010 02:51 GMT
#5
How much does a sommelier make on average, and how much training does it take?
BallMan
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
July 20 2010 02:55 GMT
#6
Im not sure about the statistical average that they make. I do know that I was making 45 grand a year waiting tables and a nice french restaurant- and that was in a small town. With a level 1-3 somm certification you can get jobs in Michelin rated restaurants and make great money on the floor and managing the wine inventory. As far as training goes it is never ending- the certifications are fairly straight forward up to becoming a master of wine- there are also extra courses in tea, coffee, cigars, water, and spirits that are great to have on your resume.
Prepare for doom
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 02:58:55
July 20 2010 02:58 GMT
#7
Wow, you're making good money =)! It'd be cool if you could do a blog about your sommelier training ... or even just on waiting tables at a Michelin rated restaurant (assuming you work at one). Good luck with your SC2 training!
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
July 20 2010 03:01 GMT
#8
that is a considerable salary indeed, definitely an intriguing career path that I've never given much thought to
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
July 20 2010 03:02 GMT
#9
It's your life to spend how you like, but do it because you are okay with looking back on a few months and knowing you spent them all on SC2, not because you think you're going to make a living off of this game.

I really don't think there's gonna be any money in SC2 except tournament winnings for at least a year or so. You'll be lucky if a sponsor pays your airfare to go to a live tournament.
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 20 2010 03:06 GMT
#10
it's cute seeing so many people with this dream pop up lately, someone's gotta do it though i guess

it will be interesting to see if any of the random low post sc2 wave people get really big in the scene, as long as they give tl lots of plugs
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super_toast
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States269 Posts
July 20 2010 03:10 GMT
#11
Best of luck man, I look forward to seeing your name in lights in the future
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ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 03:11:21
July 20 2010 03:10 GMT
#12
On July 20 2010 12:02 Chef wrote:
It's your life to spend how you like, but do it because you are okay with looking back on a few months and knowing you spent them all on SC2, not because you think you're going to make a living off of this game.

I really don't think there's gonna be any money in SC2 except tournament winnings for at least a year or so. You'll be lucky if a sponsor pays your airfare to go to a live tournament.


this this thisssss.

LOTS of people are coming out of the woodwork with high hopes. Go in looking to play as well as you possibly can, and then accept anything that comes with that.

If you are no longer accepting what comes with playing at the highest level you can, then that's when you stop!

Don't chase the paper because you will be devestated anytime you fail to place in a tournament and have to wait another 6 months and save money for travel to get the next closest tourny.
Each day gets better : )
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
July 20 2010 03:13 GMT
#13
we need rekrul in here to destroy another youthful and spirited soul with the harsh realities of progaming
BallMan
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States78 Posts
July 20 2010 03:27 GMT
#14
@Elegy

Im currently making much less, and am not working at a Michelin rated restaurant. Not too long ago I traveled to Costa Rica and stayed in a monastery practicing martial arts and enhancing my knowledge of meditation- I even have a few students once a week now.

Although, I have studied service, food and wine my entire working life and have always been passionate about it. Just to give you a taste I will point out that some well oiled restaurants are using a better understanding of psychology, and social dynamics, to enhance their service while letting go of archaic or meaningless traditions and replacing them with service ideas that actually enhance the experience. I could go on and on...but this is a SC2 blog =) PM me and I would be happy to recommend some books or even some restaurants in teh states for you to enjoy.

@Chef
Sound advice- I do appreciate it, and my intentions are not to become wealthy by playing starcraft 2 (is that even possible?) but to play it at the highest level that my mind and body will allow me because I love it.

@ Divinek
I agree, hopefully Ill be in the 10 thousand post range soon :D TL is a great hub for SC lovers. I do hope to see a little more passion and dedication in the people that truly want to play professionally.


Prepare for doom
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 03:52:17
July 20 2010 03:50 GMT
#15
Play for fun, your chances of going pro or even lasting a week practicing 10 hours a day are minimal to non-existent. You clearly have no idea of what it takes to become a progamer (do you have any history in gaming/rts? being in diamond means nothing). I doubt you have the raw talent and dedication to get close. Prove me wrong.

I signed in just to 1/5 this.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
ella_guru
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada1741 Posts
July 20 2010 04:05 GMT
#16
On July 20 2010 12:50 Scarecrow wrote:
I doubt you have the raw talent and dedication to get close. Prove me wrong.

I signed in just to 1/5 this.

At least we know you dont !
Each day gets better : )
zeuS~
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States193 Posts
July 20 2010 04:40 GMT
#17
what ever happened to people doing things for fun, then if it develops into something more then great.. I don't really think its a good idea to start out with the idea of going pro O.o. just take things one at a time and see where it leads you would be my advice.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 04:48:29
July 20 2010 04:48 GMT
#18
FYI to OP, I closed the second thread you just opened. You can read why there. Lets keep discussion in this topic.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
July 20 2010 04:51 GMT
#19
Good luck, but like someone else said it in this thread, I think Rekrul had a really good post about the realities of the progaming scene.

When I read it, it sounded pretty rough.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 20 2010 04:55 GMT
#20
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