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Aristurtle
Australia23 Posts
On July 16 2010 01:44 Vain wrote: I always wake up when i realize im dreaming-.- When that happens start occupying your mind to keep it from waking your body up. Count to ten over and over or draw circles in the air or something. | ||
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Lexpar
1813 Posts
On July 16 2010 01:30 Tundravalco wrote: 200mg of diphenhydromine gets me lucid dreaming any night I want. http://www.erowid.org/pharms/diphenhydramine/diphenhydramine.shtml learn the pro's and con's before trying and be safe. You drink a cup of allergy medicine before going to bed? Thats not a lucid dream, thats just called getting high. | ||
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nerium
Philippines512 Posts
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On July 16 2010 18:08 nerium wrote: I have experienced lucid dreaming a couple of times but I have no idea what caused me to experience it. It was at random times but yeah, controlling your dreams is very awesome. The first thing I always do is fly! haha! Really just flying? *chuckle* But yeah, I've only had a couple lucid dreams myself. I wonder if lucid dreams it at all related to having experienced sleep paralysis as well. Consider that sleep paralysis occurs when your brain is awake before the body. Also how many of you have good dream recall? I.e. I can recall the shapes of the room, architecture, hell, I can sometimes read posters/newspapers in dreams as well. I would think headlines have some psychological significance...but sadly I don't recall writing as well as geometric arrangements (room/buildings). Anyway, hope more people contribute, in light of the Inception movie :D *hah just saw Lexpar's post - looks like sleep paralysis is somewhat of an indicator haha. | ||
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Sharkified
Canada254 Posts
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sLiniss
United States849 Posts
BUT I usually can wake up from a dream, then go back to sleep and continue the same dream. I dunno what that would be called  | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
For instance, I had a dream where I was climbing this ladder up into the sky, for miles and miles. After a layer of clouds, I saw that there was this giant floating concrete building at the top of this ladder. At this point, one of my friends appeared and was flying next to me. I was like "dude, have you seen this ladder?! it's like 10 miles high! And there's a muthafucking building at the top! Just floating there!" My friend replied, "You idiot.. ladders can't go this high and buildings can't float". So then I said "well yea, but this is a dream man.. it's alll good". He replied "whatever" and flew away. So i just kept climbing the ladder. After like 10 minutes of climbing, I woke up. fin | ||
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shieldbreak
United States406 Posts
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Loser777
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mav451
United States1596 Posts
On July 21 2010 17:04 Loser777 wrote: I've only had "semi-lucid" dreams? I'll suddenly realize I'm dreaming or something, but the instant I try to take control I get a horrible mess of colors and screeching noises... and then comes the sleep paralysis. Whoa screeching noises? I'm sure there's a way we can psychoanalyze what that means =D | ||
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lu_cid
United States428 Posts
I haven't had one in quite some time though... hmmm I also smoke weed, and when I've been smoking quite a bit, I tend to not have -- or at least not remember my dreams at all. This thread makes me want to get into it again. Oh, sometimes I get bouts of frequent sleep paralysis as well, but it seems to come in waves. May have something to do with my erratic sleep patterns. | ||
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Lexpar
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Hey man, do you think you could teach me how to lucid dream? It sounds extremely cool, I never actually remember my dreams at all, and i guess i never realize when im dreaming. If you have some time and could teach me please, let me know <3 The first thing you want to do when learning lucid dreaming is developing good base recall. One dream a night is a pretty good goal to shoot for. This is important because if you don't have the recall you can actually forgot lucid dreams and seem like your having none when you might be having a few. Second reason for good recall is that you'll remember your lucid dreams more vivdly. Instead of them feeling like a distant 5 year old memory, they be as sharp and clear as if they had happenned 5 minutes ago. Best way to start remembering dreams is just to tell yourself "I want to remember my dreams" as you go to sleep, focusing on the meaning of the words. Do not mindlessly repeat them. Then as soon as you wake from a dream, right down whatever you can remember in a dream journal, if all you can remember is a mood or impression, still write it down. You need to teach yourself that remembering dreams is important. If you find yourself struggling you can set an alarm at 90 minutes intervals (4.5, 6, 7.5 hrs, no shorter) from the time you go to bed which will help you awake from REM sleep, the stage in which we dream. At the same time you are doing that you can start doing what is called reality checking, or state testing. State testing is just confirming to yourself whether or not you are dreaming. RC's work because dreams tend to be inconsistent in certain ways. For instance, in dreams text rarely stays the same (same applies to digital displays), so on classic RC is to check a digital clock, look away, then look back and see if the time has changed oddly. If it has, then your probably dreaming. Another reliable RC is to plug your nose and try to breathe through it, if you can, you're dreaming. A third reality check would be see if you can fly or levitate yourself at all. There are 2 keys to successful state testing. The first is that your legitamately questioning whether or not you are dreaming. In real life, you will know your not dreaming, so its easy to slip into the habit of mindlessly RCing knowing that the result will be that you are not dreaming. If you RC this way though, you will mindlessly assume in dream that you are NOT dreaming, defeating the point ogf the RC. The RC needs to be a serious questioning as to whether or not your dreaming. The second part about RC's is to do them routinely. You can do them every thirty minutes, everytime you see something thats odd/stands out, everytime you do certain common real life activites etc. What you base your routine on is entirely up to you, but the key is to make RCing a habitual routing activity. After you have your dream recall down, your ready to begin Lucid Dream induction techniques. There are to basic, overarching types of induction techniques. One is a DILD (Dream Induced Lucid Dream) and the other is WILD (Wake Initiated Lucid Dream). DILD's are any LD in which you become lucid during the dream, and WILD's are any lucid dream in which you enter the dream state conscious from wakefullness all the way into the dream. My preferred method for DILD is the Mnuemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams, or MILD, technique. MILD basically involves repeating a mantra to yourself as you go to sleep such as "I will remember to recogonize that I'm dreaming." Its much like practicing dream recall in that you need to focus on the meaning of the words and ensure your not mindlessly repeating them. If you find your attention wandering, recfocus it and begin the mantra anew. You can enhance the effectiveness of MILD by setting an alarm later in the night in order to get more "chances" and, for the visually oriented person, it can be helpful to visualize yourself in a dream situation, such as flying, and recognizing the impossibility of the situatuion. This is a pretty darn effective technique, and the one I first used to learn to lucid dream at will. The other method of lucid dream induction is WILD, of which there are also many varations. My favorite version involves focusing on hypnagogic imagery as I fall asleep. After waking up later in the night I will begin to fall asleep again, and as I do focus on the imagery behind my eyelids. It needs to be a soft focus, like a distant observer, you cannot try to interact with the imagery or force it to do something as this level of intensity will re-awaken the body. As this progresses it will go from random colors/shapes/dots etc, into more clear images, perhaps starting to form patterns or more organized imagery. Your body will also begin to fall asleep and you will experience what is known as SP or sleep paralysis. SP can be very frightening if your not used to it as you can hear all kinds of sounds, from humming, to scratching, to banging, and so forth, and it will often feel as if there are vibrations or sensations running through your body. It isn't dangerous and is actually a good sign: it means your close to being in a dream. Its tough to relax the first few times you encounter this and as is true of dreams, if you get too excited/nervous/etc. you'll wake right back up. As you go through this your imagery will begin to become a moving scene, almost like your watching a movie. At this point you need to allow yourself to be drawn in to the scene. NEVER attempt to force or project yourself into the scene, you will wake up. You must allow yourself to be drawn in. Once you are drawn and are in he dream, feel free to do have fun. The attitude you need for good WILDing is that of a passive observer. You need to disinterestedly observer whatever is happening around you. Its a delicate balance though. To little observing and youll just fall asleep. But if your too forceful or expectant you'll wake right back up. As a very general rule of thumb, WILDing tends to favor those that fall asleep faster, because its hard to focus if you have to lay there for an hour before you even start to fall asleep. MILD can favor those who take longer to fall asleep because they often end up affirming there intention to realize they are dreaming much longer. While this is a general guideline, I want to stress that it is very, very general. Both techniques can work fine with both types of people, you'll have to experiment and see what feels best. anyways no success yet. i always just fall asleep. i smoke weed every day and that is a problem. weed seems to affect my ability to remember my dreams . Yeah, if your recall isn't good it makes it tough to have lucid dreams, because its very possible to have a lucid dream and not remember it. If your not remembering at least 1 dream per night I would work on dream recall first; then lucid dreaming when thats up to snuff. You don't get tired of being awake all the time though? I don't mean physically fatigued, but I mean mentally drained. Having to control everything for every moment would get tiring, wouldn't it? I think one of the things I like most about sleep is that even though I know I'm dreaming, I'm not an active participant in directing its course. Actually, and this just popped in my head now (and I'm too lazy to delete what I just said), dreams only happen for a very short real-time duration. Well, you might if your having a bunch of lucid dreams per night then yes it does get to be mentally draining. Your still well rested, but the days almost start to feel a bit endless. That said, it takes time to get to the point where you can have LD's at will. It's not hard per se, but it takes time to get used to your induction technqiue and have the belief that you will have an LD. As far as the duration of dreams they aren't super short. Towards the beginning of the night dreams migt only be 5 minutes or so, but REM cycles increase in length as the night goes on and dreams towards the end of the night can be 30 minutes or more. I've only had "semi-lucid" dreams? I'll suddenly realize I'm dreaming or something, but the instant I try to take control I get a horrible mess of colors and screeching noises... and then comes the sleep paralysis. Those are lucid dreams. A lucid dream in nothing more than a dream in which the dreamer knows he is dreaming. It might not be a particular useful one, but those are certainly lucid dreams. Sleep paralysis is actually a really, really great way to have a lucid dream, because your pretty much in the dream state anyway. Just relax, passively observe whatever you see, and within a few minutes you'll be right back in a dream and completly lucid. Seriously sleep paralysis is great, Its like defending a 4 pool PvZ with no probe losses. Pretty much a free lucid dream. Wow, that really turned into a wall of text! Hope some of what I wrote here can be of help. Feel free to ask away if you have any questions. | ||
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