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On July 07 2010 07:25 Bibdy wrote:
My mother (back in England, where I grew up) still, to this day, converts everything back into shillings, crowns and whatever other crazy systems they had back in the day. Would you like to try converting that post-war generation to the metric system on the grounds that "its more useful, dammit!"?
Hahaha. Stubborn mothers CAN make hilarious situations.
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anything thats not the metric system is bad.. really the usa should do what the rest of the world logicaly does.. its the stubborness the usa that uses a bad system..
metric is much more logical, much more acurrate, much more used, and its much easier to use..
I still cant find a reasonabe argument against metric when its compared to imperial but hey its a cultural thing..
its like some places that have money with a lot a zeros its unconfortable and stupid but there is no easy way to change it.. its a pitty you have to learn both..
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Metric System is what makes more sense, no discussion about it.
1) DD/MM/YYYY is what we use here, and it does make sense. (Crescent order)
2) YYYY/MM/DD is used in Asia I believe, and it does make sense. (Decrescent order)
3) MM/DD/YYYY doesnt make any fucking sense.... (WTF order)
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The best date format is YYYY-MM-DD, because with it you can sort two dates simply by reading them left-to-right and it's immediately obvious in a list of dates whether any are (badly) out of order.
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I definitely see the advantages of the metric system but why are people saying it's more accurate than the imperial system?
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It's not, unless for some reason the person using metric units is better with a ruler. 
I LOVE US Fluid volume units btw. (1 fluid oz = 1/16 Pint = 1/32 Quart = 1/128 Gallon) As far as I'm concerned the gallon is the greatest arbitrary amount of liquid ever.
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Yeah all the urinals by me are exactly 1 gallon per flush but 3.8 liters per flush...
TAKE THAT METRIC! :p
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On July 07 2010 07:25 Bibdy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:16 exeexe wrote:
Well 1 meter = the distance light travels through a vacuum in 1/299,792,458 of a second
Well a foot = The length of something of something thats gone long time ago
What is most useful? Like can i be in Canada, UK, or Uganda and find out how much a meter is? YES because its universal and can be found in any laboratory.
But imagine we forgot how much a foot was, we couldnt figure out how much it was again.
Anyways
How would you define a newton in imperical system? (with imperical units) o.0 LOL Well pressure is measured in pounds per square inch (psi), and that's essentially Force normalized by gravity (weight/area, instead of force/area)
I dont know the answer of my own question but i do know that you are wrong.
My mother (back in England, where I grew up) still, to this day, converts everything back into shillings, crowns and whatever other crazy systems they had back in the day. Would you like to try converting that post-war generation to the metric system on the grounds that "its more useful, dammit!"?
yes, im that evil.
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Am i the only one who thinks the date should be written on an ascending or descending scale of importance? D/M/Y or Y/M/D makes the most sense to me. And metric is based on base 10 whereas imperial is just some random numbers somebody pulled off the top of their head.
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On July 07 2010 08:30 tarpman wrote:
The best date format is YYYY-MM-DD, because with it you can sort two dates simply by reading them left-to-right and it's immediately obvious in a list of dates whether any are (badly) out of order.
I agree pretty much.
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On July 07 2010 09:04 synapse wrote:
I blame the English.
Hey, we just invented the system.
You're the assholes who adopted it.
That's like blaming cigarette companies for making addictive cigarettes. Really, who does that?
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They're both arbitrary. Sure, you can say SI is based on certain physical properties of important things, like water, but that's pretty damn arbitrary in my opinion. Why not use methane, or mercury?
SI has going for it internal consistency, such as with the prefixes and their meanings (giga, mega, kilo, deci, centi, milli, etc).
Imperial has going for it the fact that it's already in use (in the states, that is... it loses this advantage anywhere else in the world).
Nothing else to say.
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In English you say "July 7th" instead of "7th of July". People write MM/DD/YYYY because that's the way we say it. It wouldn't make sense if you didn't grow up in an English-speaking country.
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From the pictures thread:
On July 07 2010 00:10 BabyFarkMcgeeZax wrote:
0 degrees Celsius = H2O freezing point <----smart
100 degrees Celsius = H2O Boiling point <----smart
32 degrees Fahrenheit = H2O freezing point <-----stupid
212 degrees Fahrenheit = H2O boiling point <-----stupid
I agree on the other metric points... but I've actually come to prefer Fahrenheit.
First, what's so special about water? How often is it important that water freezes at 0 degrees or boils at 100 degrees? I freeze and boil water all the time, and I don't know if I ever actually measure the temperature. I put water on the stove and turn it on; when it's bubbling, it's boiling. I don't pull out a thermometer and say "oh, it's at 80 degC so 20 more to go."
Meanwhile, to quote some Slashdot poster, Fahrenheit is "a wonderfully human" temperature scale. 0 degrees is too damn cold, 100 degrees is too damn hot, and 50 degrees is pretty pleasant. Even if you disagree with exactly where those points should go (perhaps you are crazy live in Arizona and find 0 degrees far more unpleasant than 100 and think 70 or 80 is ideal, Fahrenheit is still closer to covering "natural human temperatures" in an easy-to-work-with, natural range than Celsius is.
Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 07:19 Loser777 wrote:
Eh, even in the U.S. once you've taken some kind of science class you wish everyone were using metric instead of customary.
Like the hell is a foot-pound? A Joule is so much nicer... I like slugs better than I like Newtons.
I find Newton's awesome because I rock climb and it's pretty convenient. 1 kilonewton is 1 bodyweight of a reasonably heavy climber (224lb), or a lighter climber who's bouncing around a bit. My harness can take 16 kilonewtons? That's 16 climbers, or one climber facing 16 g's.
Great for rough estimations.
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On July 07 2010 09:48 EvanED wrote:From the pictures thread: Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 00:10 BabyFarkMcgeeZax wrote:
0 degrees Celsius = H2O freezing point <----smart
100 degrees Celsius = H2O Boiling point <----smart
32 degrees Fahrenheit = H2O freezing point <-----stupid
212 degrees Fahrenheit = H2O boiling point <-----stupid
I agree on the other metric points... but I've actually come to prefer Fahrenheit. First, what's so special about water? How often is it important that water freezes at 0 degrees or boils at 100 degrees? I freeze and boil water all the time, and I don't know if I ever actually measure the temperature. I put water on the stove and turn it on; when it's bubbling, it's boiling. I don't pull out a thermometer and say "oh, it's at 80 degC so 20 more to go." Meanwhile, to quote some Slashdot poster, Fahrenheit is "a wonderfully human" temperature scale. 0 degrees is too damn cold, 100 degrees is too damn hot, and 50 degrees is pretty pleasant. Even if you disagree with exactly where those points should go (perhaps you are crazy live in India and find 0 degrees far more unpleasant than 100 and think 70 or 80 is ideal, Fahrenheit is still closer to covering "natural human temperatures" in an easy-to-work-with, natural range than Celsius is.
not really. i mean first of all i disagree with those #s to begin with. 20f is also too damn cold, and 90f is also too damn hot. 50f is pretty damn chilly (not short/shirt weather that's for sure, unless you're running or something, then it's perfect). if i were to use f for too cold and too hot, it'd be like: below 30f is pretty damn cold and above 90f is pretty damn hot, but how is that any better than "below 0 is pretty damn cold and above 30 is pretty damn hot, 20's just right"
that said, it's all a matter of what you use it for
i use metric for almost anything, but for distance (for my running) i use imperial (i mean technically i guess 5k's 10k's etc are metric but i still think of them in terms of 3.1/6.2mi and of my pace as min/mile .. it's just how people i run with do it here, even tho i'm in canada so /shrug)
i mean, when i ask what pace they're jogging today at, and they tell me 8min/mile, sure i can roll with that. but tell me 5min/km and i'll be like "wut?"
actually for my height i use imperial too, pretty much everyone does. meh
it's not like one is any worse than the other for everyday purposes
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On July 07 2010 09:54 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 09:48 EvanED wrote:
... (perhaps you are crazy live in India ...
Just as a point of clarification, since JeeJee quoted an older version of my post: I changed this later to "Arizona" instead of "India", but that actually what I originally wrote. Then I decided that I could pick a hotter place than Ari-'it's-a-dry-heat'-zona and went with India, then only later realized how it was worded. I didn't mean to imply that Indians are crazy for living there nearly as much as I want to imply Arizonians are. ;-)
not really. i mean first of all i disagree with those #s to begin with. 20f is also too damn cold, and 90f is also too damn hot.
But both of those temperatures are (1) still pretty livable and (2) temperatures that nature will throw at you with reasonable frequency in lots of places where lots of people live. 100 degrees C? Not so much.
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On July 07 2010 09:37 jalstar wrote:
In English you say "July 7th" instead of "7th of July". People write MM/DD/YYYY because that's the way we say it. It wouldn't make sense if you didn't grow up in an English-speaking country.
To be fair you can say it either way and it's still correct/people will understand you.
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On July 07 2010 06:22 Barrin wrote:
Writing a date MM/DD/YY is the best way because that's the way most people already do it. Again, no sense in confusing everyone now for potentially slightly more smoothness later.
that has to be the worst agrument against progress in the history of man kind
everything should be common sense
the date should be just like the FUCKING TIME, it's fine either doing yy mm dd, or dd mm yy though i prefer the later but they should be in some order like that
and go celcius! water freezing at 0 and boiling at 100 makes so much more sense.
convert you damn americans convert
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On July 07 2010 10:08 Divinek wrote:
and go celcius! water freezing at 0 and boiling at 100 makes so much more sense.
convert you damn americans convert
Actually it doesn't matter at all for 99% of Americans... there are many reasons to convert and this is not a good one.
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