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bontez
United States165 Posts
What are your plans if you don't get into med school? (i hope you get in, but just wondering what you're thinking about for other options) Your verbal score from practice tests seems to be really good. I have some friends who do really well on every section besides the Verbal score. Anyways, best of luck. | ||
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sechkie
United States334 Posts
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mrmin123
Korea (South)2971 Posts
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OneOther
United States10774 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:42 sechkie wrote: not only that, but MD/PhD programs, atleast in the US are super competetive. But I do believe that the MD/PhD program takes around 6 years, don't quote me on this though >.< But best of luck to you to try to get in, to me, unless you love to do research, there is no benefit to getting a phd. Depends on the program... some are hybridized to 7 years (6 at absolute minimum though although I've never heard of one) but most are at least 8 year programs + MD residency. Generally, they will have you do the first 2 years of med school and take your boards... then do PhD program for 4 years and get your doctorate.... then ship you back to med school for your rotations and then residency. Yeah, if you don't love research then don't do this pretty much. Or want to have a life outside of work until after your mid-late 30s. | ||
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np.Resuscitate
United States60 Posts
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illu
Canada2531 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:42 sechkie wrote: not only that, but MD/PhD programs, atleast in the US are super competetive. But I do believe that the MD/PhD program takes around 6 years, don't quote me on this though >.< But best of luck to you to try to get in, to me, unless you love to do research, there is no benefit to getting a phd. Most likely. Well, just an MD is also fine assuming I can get in one. Whichever is easier, I guess. | ||
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
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December12345
40 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:38 illu wrote: Yea I am well-aware of that. I am not that interested in marriage or starting a family, though. If my parents push me too hard on this issue I will just "buy" a wife from a disadvantaged third world country  (just need to check her for aids and it's all good):D:D this is sad but true. i'm starting med school in august, and the way things are looking, I might end up just buying a wife. but really, if you keep up on all the evolutionary psychology, might be better off not marrying at all, and just being a serial long term relationship dater. | ||
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December12345
40 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:42 sechkie wrote: not only that, but MD/PhD programs, atleast in the US are super competetive. But I do believe that the MD/PhD program takes around 6 years, don't quote me on this though >.< But best of luck to you to try to get in, to me, unless you love to do research, there is no benefit to getting a phd. they are 7 years from what I understand. On July 05 2010 18:51 Jayme wrote: In general assuming at least a decent score on your mcat it's 3.7 for basically sure in, 3.4 to be competitive and 3.0 with a high mcat score. Schools be hurting for students right now btw..best time to get in. lol sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about. now is more competitive than ever to get into med school. the recession is making it hella hard to get a job, so lots of people who are otherwise working are applying for grad school instead. and people who are otherwise applying for grad school are applying for med school. | ||
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December12345
40 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:46 eshlow wrote: Depends on the program... some are hybridized to 7 years (6 at absolute minimum though although I've never heard of one) but most are at least 8 year programs + MD residency. Generally, they will have you do the first 2 years of med school and take your boards... then do PhD program for 4 years and get your doctorate.... then ship you back to med school for your rotations and then residency. Yeah, if you don't love research then don't do this pretty much. Or want to have a life outside of work until after your mid-late 30s. what the fuck. 4 years undergrad, 4 years med school, 4 years phd, then another 3-7 years residency, with perhaps 1-2 years more fellowship? let's add that up. 18 + 4+4+4+3 (or 7)+1 (or 2) = 34 if u are fast about it, and 39 if you take the standard route. remember that this whole process is 80+ hours per week, competing nonstop with the best of the best at every turn. where the hell are you supposed to get married? no wonder all the top doctors are egomaniacs. it takes a specific type of personality to want to commit to this sort of thing, not to mention going through with it. parents, don't force your children to do medicine. | ||
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eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
On top of having good marks, it's also really important to be well rounded (is what I hear, so I'm not as worried as I could be). OP, good luck with your stuff, make sure you update us, cause this is important info. EDIT: I think it's important to note that you need the right mindset in order to become a doctor. In the words of mighty yoda, there is no try, only do or do not (couldn't pass on a chance to quote yoda  ). | ||
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
I've been doing a lot better now that I've taken the time to learn all the formulas and physiology they expect you to know. Once you master the subject material though, it almost becomes something of an IQ test. I'm taking it on the 16th and only started studying last week, though, so I'd better get back to it | ||
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radar14
United States1437 Posts
I don't want to count your chickens before they hatch, obviously. But given your first diag, I think you have a very decent shot at a DO school, and a fighter's punch at an MD school. On July 05 2010 17:49 np.Resuscitate wrote: So I understand my advice is unsolicited, but as a first year med student at an MD school, I will give it. In the present application environment, you absolutely cannot be competetive without a Kaplan or Princeton review course (or something similar). I earned a 33 on my first MCAT, and a 38 on my second after taking a course. Find the money. It's your future, they are worth it. That's why I kind of agree with this, if you somehow can't get the books from a friend or some other method. $1800 is a drop in the bucket compared to how much you're gonna owe if you actually get in. On July 05 2010 19:02 December12345 wrote: they are 7 years from what I understand. Most MD/PhD's at my school take 7-8 years. | ||
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TunaFishyMe
Canada150 Posts
The only thing godo about kaplan is that they have a practice test where you get to take it AT the test centre. Only Kaplan has this deal with GMAC. It really helped get a feel what its like the first time around. | ||
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ffz
United States490 Posts
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stalife
Canada1222 Posts
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December12345
40 Posts
On July 05 2010 20:34 eLiE wrote: lol, you're looking at an egomaniac right here. I've got the whole shabang going on right now, except my parents wouldn't give me my education fund unless I took nursing first, which in all honesty is probably making my future harder. I feel like the med schools will think of nursing as an easier course and respect it less. But I can probably squeeze some easier marks out of it, and I'm also volunteering every summer at the hospital, and I'm learning stuff by myself (right now, clinical hypnosis, as I want to be a psychiatrist). And being a lifeguard can't hurt either (some some first aid rescues up in there). the MCAT is going to be a problem though, since nursing has absolutely no science in it, so I'm gonna have to teach myself that stuff. On top of having good marks, it's also really important to be well rounded (is what I hear, so I'm not as worried as I could be). OP, good luck with your stuff, make sure you update us, cause this is important info. EDIT: I think it's important to note that you need the right mindset in order to become a doctor. In the words of mighty yoda, there is no try, only do or do not (couldn't pass on a chance to quote yoda ). why would you do nursing before med school. the 2 are completely different, and nursing wont prepare you for medicine, nor will nursing classes help you with anything. your parents are fucking retarded. don't worry about fucking funding. if you get in to a med school somewhere, federal loan will cover 100% of your shit. There is also a new federal policy now that says after your 4 years of med school, you are only allowed to use 10% of your salary to pay back your loans per year. and if your loans aren't totally paid off after 10 years, then the rest of it is forgiven. cool . i want to do psychiatry too. 100% outpatient videoconferencing for the win! world traveler bitchesssss!!!! | ||
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December12345
40 Posts
On July 06 2010 00:08 stalife wrote: I don't know about the states, but here at UBC Canada, the marks alone won't get you into med school ... I've known people with very high gpa (at least 3.8, some 4.0) with very high MCAT scores, (35+), a bunch of awards, volunteer at at least 2 places, lots of extracurricular stuff, yet the competition is so high that they can't get in after the interview.. haha sucks for you guys, cause doctors in canada dont make that much either. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
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