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Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
July 03 2010 14:55 GMT
#1
Well fuck. Ive been awake for almost 2 days.

Its my summer break from highschool and my sleep schedule has been flipped and mangled. I routinely stay up til 4 and wake sometime in the afternoon. How do I fix this??? I can't just go to bed at 10 pm because i literally won't fall asleep.

Should i take some otc sleeping pills? Or do those just fuck things up more? Will it just fix itself over time?

Also drove for the first time today! (with an instructor)
Im scared as fuck to park backwards though. You can't see shit and distance perception is so altered in the mirrors I always think Im going to hit a car. Was this an issue for anyone else or do I just suck at driving? 0_o

Also fuck big trucks. They are scary as shit to drive right behind. They block everything, and if I don't start breaking the second they do Im pretty sure Im gonna get squashed.

Baksteen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands438 Posts
July 03 2010 14:58 GMT
#2
Try to pull an all nighter and go to sleep at like 20:00 the next day if you can keep that up.

And driving is scary indeed at the start! You will get used to it though.
Derp Derp Derp
geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
July 03 2010 14:59 GMT
#3
i've never been awake for 2 days before. i will fall asleep eventually just by lying in bed. If i can't sleep because i have a lot on my mind, then i like to picture cartoon sheep with numbers on their bodies.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 15:01:36
July 03 2010 15:00 GMT
#4
Take sleeping pills, staying up fucks you up pretty harder then taking them.

I'd say go to sleep early like 22:00 or 23:00, take the pills and chill watching a movie or something.

On July 03 2010 23:59 geometryb wrote:
i've never been awake for 2 days before. i will fall asleep eventually just by lying in bed. If i can't sleep because i have a lot on my mind, then i like to picture cartoon sheep with numbers on their bodies.


I've been up for 3 days in a row a couple of times, it's really nasty :/
I tried to ladder SC:BW once when i hadn't slept and concentrating was really hard
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
July 03 2010 15:01 GMT
#5
My advice is to stay awake for an entire night then go to bed slightly earlier than the time you want to start going to sleep.

If you want your regular sleeping pattern to be midnight-8am, or something reasonable like that, stay up all night then go to bed at 10/11pm the next evening then get up at 8am.

You should be good to go 12 - 8 daily from there.
Speak properly, and in as few words as you can, but always plainly; for the end of speech is not ostentation, but to be understood.
Thavg
Profile Joined July 2008
United States35 Posts
July 03 2010 15:02 GMT
#6
My suggestion to you for sleeping is to stay completely awake for a day / night and then go to sleep when you want to normally go to sleep to reset your schedule.

And as far as driving goes, my depth perception was terrible when i started too. It is something that you really just develop over time. Stop tailgating big trucks too... they can't see you if you cant see their mirrors.
theonemephisto
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States409 Posts
July 03 2010 15:02 GMT
#7
On July 03 2010 23:55 lighter wrote:
Well fuck. Ive been awake for almost 2 days.

Its my summer break from highschool and my sleep schedule has been flipped and mangled. I routinely stay up til 4 and wake sometime in the afternoon. How do I fix this??? I can't just go to bed at 10 pm because i literally won't fall asleep.

Should i take some otc sleeping pills? Or do those just fuck things up more? Will it just fix itself over time?

Also drove for the first time today! (with an instructor)
Im scared as fuck to park backwards though. You can't see shit and distance perception is so altered in the mirrors I always think Im going to hit a car. Was this an issue for anyone else or do I just suck at driving? 0_o

Also fuck big trucks. They are scary as shit to drive right behind. They block everything, and if I don't start breaking the second they do Im pretty sure Im gonna get squashed.

I parked backwards almost every day my senior year at school (seriously, most fucked up parking situation ever, was impossible to get out at the end of the day). The key, twist around, and look straight out your back window (assuming you have a sedan of some sort). Use your mirrors as extra guidance, they tell you what's on your sides and help you line up. But just looking straight back out the window is a lot less distorted. When you're going back, put your left hand on the top of the wheel, that way you know where to return to when you want to go straight.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
July 03 2010 15:07 GMT
#8
On July 04 2010 00:02 theonemephisto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 23:55 lighter wrote:
Well fuck. Ive been awake for almost 2 days.

Its my summer break from highschool and my sleep schedule has been flipped and mangled. I routinely stay up til 4 and wake sometime in the afternoon. How do I fix this??? I can't just go to bed at 10 pm because i literally won't fall asleep.

Should i take some otc sleeping pills? Or do those just fuck things up more? Will it just fix itself over time?

Also drove for the first time today! (with an instructor)
Im scared as fuck to park backwards though. You can't see shit and distance perception is so altered in the mirrors I always think Im going to hit a car. Was this an issue for anyone else or do I just suck at driving? 0_o

Also fuck big trucks. They are scary as shit to drive right behind. They block everything, and if I don't start breaking the second they do Im pretty sure Im gonna get squashed.

I parked backwards almost every day my senior year at school (seriously, most fucked up parking situation ever, was impossible to get out at the end of the day). The key, twist around, and look straight out your back window (assuming you have a sedan of some sort). Use your mirrors as extra guidance, they tell you what's on your sides and help you line up. But just looking straight back out the window is a lot less distorted. When you're going back, put your left hand on the top of the wheel, that way you know where to return to when you want to go straight.


i thought this was mandatory style for doing most backing up.

Since you know that big warning on mirrors about objects being closer than they appear
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
July 03 2010 15:13 GMT
#9
Yeah, mirrors should not be the main aid you use (what did your instructor tell you?), and I thought looking out your rear windshield was what was regular... Keep your distance from trucks and you'll be fine. don't worry, with time, you'll get better at driving.
On the sleeping topic, just try to stop thinking if you are. I know it sounds absurd, but that's how I fall asleep, well I stop thinking of things that are stressful, works all the time for me.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
July 03 2010 15:16 GMT
#10
For sleeping, you have two options:
1.) Stay up for an entire night, fight off any urge you have to go to sleep, stay up for the entire next day, and finally crash at a normal hour the next night. Worked for me the one time I became nocturnal.

2.) Slowly adjust back. This requires determination and integrity on your part. Really, it's pretty simple, since you don't have to reset your sleep schedule absolutely in the next two days or something. Force your self to lay in bed, eyes closed, with the lights and everything else turned off at a set time. Force yourself by alarm clock to wake up and get out of bed completely at a set time. For each subsequent day/night shift this time back by half an hour. Straightforward enough.

And for driving, I don't see why you think trucks are scary to drive behind. Just don't tailgate, and you're fine. They weigh much more than your car, and therefore have a longer breaking distance. You know for a fact that they won't be breaking abruptly, so just give yourself some space and react reasonably quickly. Nothing special. It's much more scary to have a truck driving behind you, because then you know that if for some reason you have to slam on your brakes hard, you're kind of screwed. Most truck drivers know to give themselves quite a bit of space in front, though.

The absolute worst part, though, is driving on a small road going in the opposite direction of a truck. I live by two one-lane roads with hairpin turns that require you to slow down to about 15-20 mph (or at least you're required to by law. Honestly, it's not that hard to make the turn going faster than their limit). Anyways, I've seen two 18-wheelers using these roads, even though I think they're forbidden from using them by law. They make REEALLLY wide turns, so when I drove by them right as we were both at the curves, I was terrified. The side of the truck must have been less then six inches from my driver's side window. I completely stopped until the truck was gone, and got as far right in my lane as possible, and it was still that bad...
안지호
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
July 03 2010 15:28 GMT
#11
Driving is always scary for beginners. The thought of controlling a 2000lb machine amongst hundreds of others seems daunting, but I guarantee you that 6 months after driving you will feel much much more comfortable, and everything will become second nature. Just make sure to stay cautious, as thats probably the best way to avoid hitting anyone, or anyone hitting you. Always assume the people driving around you are stupid, and you need to watch and pay attention.

Also, just be glad you dont have to take drivers training here in alberta. I had to do mine in the wintertime, and our roads are absolute terror between the months of december-february. Alot of times all it takes is a slight touch on the brake or accelerator when travelling over a black ice patch, and your car is practically sideways
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
July 03 2010 15:28 GMT
#12
On July 03 2010 23:55 lighter wrote:
Well fuck. Ive been awake for almost 2 days.

Its my summer break from highschool and my sleep schedule has been flipped and mangled. I routinely stay up til 4 and wake sometime in the afternoon. How do I fix this??? I can't just go to bed at 10 pm because i literally won't fall asleep.

Should i take some otc sleeping pills? Or do those just fuck things up more? Will it just fix itself over time?

Also drove for the first time today! (with an instructor)
Im scared as fuck to park backwards though. You can't see shit and distance perception is so altered in the mirrors I always think Im going to hit a car. Was this an issue for anyone else or do I just suck at driving? 0_o

Also fuck big trucks. They are scary as shit to drive right behind. They block everything, and if I don't start breaking the second they do Im pretty sure Im gonna get squashed.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=132728
Read my post on the first page.
Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 15:43:07
July 03 2010 15:37 GMT
#13
On July 04 2010 00:28 eXigent. wrote:
Also, just be glad you dont have to take drivers training here in alberta. I had to do mine in the wintertime, and our roads are absolute terror between the months of december-february. Alot of times all it takes is a slight touch on the brake or accelerator when travelling over a black ice patch, and your car is practically sideways


At least you don't live in Brampton. Worst place in Ontario when it comes down to drivers, it was on the news somewhere lol. I'm so proud of my hometown. -.-
Most of the people I know didn't take their driving tests here, cause they are not manly enough.
Seriously though, people here are BM (lol), and are like heat seeking missiles.

EDIT: Link
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
July 03 2010 15:41 GMT
#14
Take 50mg of gravol and 50mg of benadryll at like 10pm and try to sleep by midnight. If you don't get sleepy take more of each and eventually it should make you tired. If you have true insomnia go to a doctor and talk to him about it. If you have no history of addiction you may be put on some nce benzos that will knock you straight out otherwise maybe you can go on some sort of anti-depressant sedative like seroquil.

I doubt you have real insomnia though. Just go for a jog or bike ride in the afternoon and eat a big dinner at like 6pm and your ass should get tired.
Nak Allstar.
RumZ
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States956 Posts
July 03 2010 15:44 GMT
#15
I'm not going to lie, I thought the title of this thread said, "Can't sheep )

Oh, the irony. Just lay down in the dark man.. it usually works.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 16:00:40
July 03 2010 15:59 GMT
#16
There is a body clock reset trick that has to do with fasting for 16 hours previous to the time you want to be your morning, then eat breakfast and meals according to your day. iirc

PS- If you wanna pass out really easy, watch wc3 replays (not joking)
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ffz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States490 Posts
July 03 2010 16:08 GMT
#17
I wish i was like you so i could stay up all night and study instead of pay shitload for monster and coffee -_-...

Be grateful god has given u this superpower.
Meow.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 16:15:37
July 03 2010 16:13 GMT
#18
yea this http://www.ehow.com/how_5511991_reset-body-clock.html

edit- apparently there is some new recent research on not only light and food being main catalysts for circadian rhythm but the hormon/chemical cortisol http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7849261/A-pill-that-resets-body-clock-could-cure-jet-lag.html
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
July 03 2010 16:14 GMT
#19
always get up at 8:00 in the morning. no sleep after that and dont go to bed before 22:00. keep this up for a week and your sleeping schedule should be normal again
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 18:41:26
July 03 2010 18:02 GMT
#20
Look into melatonin. Melatonin is naturally created in your brain from serotonin when your body is preparing to sleep. It's essentially your body's way of telling you to sleep. Melatonin supplements can actually be purchased at any pharmacy.

Why melatonin?

-No side effects like sleeping pills (unless you take too much, in which case you can have grogginess the next day).

-Not addictive like sleeping pills.

-It provides your body with the full REM sleep that you need. While sleeping pills put you to sleep, that does not necessarily mean you're actually getting restful sleep.

Any night I have difficulty sleeping I take some, and I am sleeping within 20-30 minutes. I have recommended this to numerous people and each one has come back to me absolutely shocked with how effective it was.

One thing to note, a lot of the tablets you purchase come in doses much higher than anyone actually needs (the bottle I have contains 2mg tablets). To ensure I do not have grogginess the following day, I crush a tablet into fine powder, and simply touch the tip of my index finger into powder so that there is a very tiny amount. I place my finger under my tongue to dissolve the powder. 1 tablet can effectively last me 20+ doses this way, and still be very effective. Understand that people will require different dosages for effectiveness, but I recommend starting as small as possible.


Ensure you are doing the obvious like refraining from eating high amounts of sugar before bed time, or consuming caffeine after the early afternoon. Make sure you do things that are relaxing prior to going to bed. For me, if I am playing something like starcraft immediately before going to bed, my mind is far to stimulated at that point to sleep. I need to refrain from activity that keeps my body and/or mind very active. I tend to read a book to help relax. I know this is probably one of the most overstated things in regards to health, but it rings true... EXERCISE. Not immediately before bed of course, but vigorous exercise at least 4 times a week can be life changing in not only sleep, but in all aspects of your life.

Do whatever possible to avoid sleeping pills or drugs that induce drowsiness as reliance becomes a huge issue.

Also, note that it's not healthy to depend on any substance for sleep over extended periods of time, even if it is something like melatonin. Sleep problems tend to be the result of issues that need to be addressed. Make sure you are doing everything necessary to address them; for the sake of your health.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 03 2010 18:10 GMT
#21
Oh, that's genius. Stay up for a day and a half and drive.

lighter, you fix a sleeping schedule by waking up at a certain time. then when you go to bed will adjust to that. if it doesn't after a couple weeks then there is another issue you have to deal with.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5541 Posts
July 03 2010 18:19 GMT
#22
On July 04 2010 03:02 QueueQueue wrote:
Look into melatonin. Melatonin is naturally created in your brain from serotonin when your body is preparing to sleep. It's essentially your body's way of telling you to sleep. Melatonin supplements can actually be purchased at any pharmacy.

Why melatonin?

-No side effects like sleeping pills (unless you take too much, in which case you can have grogginess the next day).

-Not addictive like sleeping pills.

-It provides your body with the full REM sleep that you need. While sleeping pills put you to sleep, that does not necessarily mean you're actually getting restful sleep.

Any night I have difficulty sleeping I take some, and I am sleeping within 20-30 minutes. I have recommended this to numerous people and each one has some back to me absolutely shocked with how effective it was.

One thing to note, a lot of the tablets you purchase come in doses much higher than anyone actually needs (the bottle I have contains 2mg tablets). To ensure I do not have grogginess the following day, I crush a tablet into fine powder, and simply touch the tip of my index finger into powder so that there is a very tiny amount. I place my finger under my tongue to dissolve the powder. 1 tablet can effectively last me 20+ doses this way, and still be very effective. Understand that people will require different dosages for effectiveness, but I recommend starting as small as possible.


Ensure you are doing the obvious like refraining from eating high amounts of sugar before bed time, or consuming caffeine after the early afternoon. Make sure you do things that are relaxing prior to going to bed. For me, if I am playing something like starcraft immediately before going to bed, my mind is far to stimulated at that point to sleep. I need to refrain from activity that keeps my body and/or mind very active. I tend to read a book to help relax. I know this is probably one of the most overstated things in regards to health, but it rings true... EXERCISE. Not immediately before bed of course, but vigorous exercise at least 4 times a week can be life changing in not only sleep, but in all aspects of your life.

Do whatever possible to avoid sleeping pills or drugs that induce drowsiness as reliance becomes a huge issue.

Also, note that it's not healthy to depend on any substance for sleep over extended periods of time, even if it is something like melatonin. Sleep problems tend to be the result of issues that need to be addressed. Make sure you are doing everything necessary to address them; for the sake of your health.


This. Try melatonin pills, they can be found at most drug stores. And stay off the comp before you want to go to sleep. Get into reading, its a good time.
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itzme_petey
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1400 Posts
July 03 2010 18:32 GMT
#23
exersize, physical activity tires out your body and forces you to sleep.
"Last night, I played a game.. as I recall it was a strategy game.. Peeked around and what did I see, a girl playing starcraft better than me.. and I jizzed in my pants.."
Versita
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1032 Posts
July 04 2010 03:50 GMT
#24
you've been awake for two days and you're not sleepy?
have you been staying at home for most of the day? 'cause i sometimes also end up sleeping late a night/early morning because i haven't done anything that requires a significant amount of effort.

here's a few things that i've done to help regulate my sleeping schedule:

1. get in bed earlier (maybe around 11pm) and reading a book. reading has always helped me relax, which helps me fall asleep.

2. pull an all-nighter and taking a short nap (assuming that you're sleepy by now) in the afternoon (an hour or so). in my experience, after pulling an all-nighter, taking a short nap will only make me feel more sleepy. but force yourself to wake up after the nap, or else you wont be able to sleep at night.

3. exercise. not right before bed, but in the morning/afternoon/early evening. if you're not doing anything that demands energy during the day, then you wont be sleepy at night. make sure you use up the energy you get from eating/drinking somehow (work, exercise, etc) don't just sit on your ass all day.
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
July 04 2010 04:52 GMT
#25
On July 04 2010 03:19 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 03:02 QueueQueue wrote:
Look into melatonin. Melatonin is naturally created in your brain from serotonin when your body is preparing to sleep. It's essentially your body's way of telling you to sleep. Melatonin supplements can actually be purchased at any pharmacy.

Why melatonin?

-No side effects like sleeping pills (unless you take too much, in which case you can have grogginess the next day).

-Not addictive like sleeping pills.

-It provides your body with the full REM sleep that you need. While sleeping pills put you to sleep, that does not necessarily mean you're actually getting restful sleep.

Any night I have difficulty sleeping I take some, and I am sleeping within 20-30 minutes. I have recommended this to numerous people and each one has some back to me absolutely shocked with how effective it was.

One thing to note, a lot of the tablets you purchase come in doses much higher than anyone actually needs (the bottle I have contains 2mg tablets). To ensure I do not have grogginess the following day, I crush a tablet into fine powder, and simply touch the tip of my index finger into powder so that there is a very tiny amount. I place my finger under my tongue to dissolve the powder. 1 tablet can effectively last me 20+ doses this way, and still be very effective. Understand that people will require different dosages for effectiveness, but I recommend starting as small as possible.


Ensure you are doing the obvious like refraining from eating high amounts of sugar before bed time, or consuming caffeine after the early afternoon. Make sure you do things that are relaxing prior to going to bed. For me, if I am playing something like starcraft immediately before going to bed, my mind is far to stimulated at that point to sleep. I need to refrain from activity that keeps my body and/or mind very active. I tend to read a book to help relax. I know this is probably one of the most overstated things in regards to health, but it rings true... EXERCISE. Not immediately before bed of course, but vigorous exercise at least 4 times a week can be life changing in not only sleep, but in all aspects of your life.

Do whatever possible to avoid sleeping pills or drugs that induce drowsiness as reliance becomes a huge issue.

Also, note that it's not healthy to depend on any substance for sleep over extended periods of time, even if it is something like melatonin. Sleep problems tend to be the result of issues that need to be addressed. Make sure you are doing everything necessary to address them; for the sake of your health.


This. Try melatonin pills, they can be found at most drug stores. And stay off the comp before you want to go to sleep. Get into reading, its a good time.


Yup, another person here agreeing on melatonin and the computer point. Basically, the light from the computer confuses your body into thinking that it's still daylight outside. There's a program that automatically dims your monitor lights according to your time, I forget what it's called though >.<. Other than melatonin and cough syrup/tylenol, I recommend taking deep slow breaths through your nose. It's worked for me 100%, never reached 30 counts or even 20. I forget exactly why but there's a scientific reason for why it works.
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lighter
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
July 04 2010 06:18 GMT
#26
Wow, thanks for all the advice guys.

Thank you so much QueueQueue, I'm definitely going to look into the melatonin thing.

Im going to bed soon after being awake for wayyyy too long, but either way getting to bed at a reasonable hour has been a big problem for me my entire life. It just feels like I can get so much more done at night where I can feel deadlines creeping up, but in reality I just have shitty time management during the day and procrastinate too much.

As for driving, I guess I just need a fuckton of practice before I'll feel comfortable.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
July 04 2010 17:58 GMT
#27
On July 04 2010 15:18 lighter wrote:
Thank you so much QueueQueue, I'm definitely going to look into the melatonin thing.


Keep us updated on your progress!

Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
July 04 2010 18:03 GMT
#28
no one said smoke weed? lol whenever i smoke indica my body just crashes
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
July 04 2010 18:17 GMT
#29
On July 05 2010 03:03 Amnesia wrote:
no one said smoke weed? lol whenever i smoke indica my body just crashes


Unfortunately, pot comes with draw backs. Aside from the fact smoking anything is bad on your lungs, there are cognitive shortcomings that come from smoking pot as well (fortunately, most are reverted after abstaining from smoking pot for a pro longed period). I've smoked pot a limited amount of times in my life (probably enough to count on 2 hands), and yes, it does help induce sleep. I just don't like how it makes me feel; personally.
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