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madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
July 04 2010 00:36 GMT
#681
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.


Seems fair to me... Especially considering he didn't come back to admit it or give TL an explanation after he was caught.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
July 04 2010 00:36 GMT
#682
wow he got to go to disneyland?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 04 2010 00:44 GMT
#683
On July 04 2010 09:36 FragKrag wrote:
wow he got to go to disneyland?


i guess not knowing what this means means you're a good poster.
Silan
Profile Joined January 2010
Denmark198 Posts
July 04 2010 00:46 GMT
#684
I follow (and agree with) the arguments for banning OP (was warned, bad poster ect), but cant help letting my mind wonder off.
Many good stories exist in the blurryness between fiction and reality, among other things because that makes a story believable. I couldnt help thinking of Day9s jacking-off-in-airplane story, which he claims to be true, but no one will probably really know, which again just makes it that much more exciting. Iirc OP didnt ask for advice or made any setup for debate, which obviously would be a no go in story telling, and if he hadn't been caught, it wouldnt really have hurt anyone, as others are saying.

Oh well, just my 2 cents here at 2.30 am, guess this thread cant really be more derailed .
Life is one crushing defeat after another until you just wish flanders was dead. - Homer
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 00:48:20
July 04 2010 00:48 GMT
#685
PMing Kennigit regarding Chill's bans will result in an immediate IP ban of Chill, Banned User, and Anyone who quoted/mentioned the comment (except me).
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
July 04 2010 00:52 GMT
#686
On July 04 2010 09:44 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 09:36 FragKrag wrote:
wow he got to go to disneyland?


i guess not knowing what this means means you're a good poster.



One day, one dreadful day, I was sent to disneyland...
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Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 01:01:38
July 04 2010 00:59 GMT
#687
On July 04 2010 09:34 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.

While I appreciate your well-thought out criticism which ignores the many explanations that have given and is based purely on assumption, I am going to have to maintain with my current course of action.

Should this inconvenience you, please contact Kennigit via PM.

he was baned because he carried on with his story and you didn't like that he was telling a fib. you used the excuse that "this" was the final straw and that he had a history of temp bans and bad posts, and his 4k post count was a bunch of junk to make a justification of why he was baned. however, no where in the rules of the site have i ever read that you can be banned for telling a lie or causing mass deception, you bent the rules as you saw fit and made an excuse for doing it. sure people agree with you, they view it as "catching the bad guy!, the justice hammer wins again!" but honestly there was no justice here, he broke no rule. maybe a temporary ban or a chance at a public apology for not listening to a moderator, but a perma ban for sharing a made up story is absurd.
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 01:09:05
July 04 2010 01:08 GMT
#688
On July 04 2010 09:59 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 09:34 Chill wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.

While I appreciate your well-thought out criticism which ignores the many explanations that have given and is based purely on assumption, I am going to have to maintain with my current course of action.

Should this inconvenience you, please contact Kennigit via PM.

+ Show Spoiler +
he was baned because he carried on with his story and you didn't like that he was telling a fib. you used the excuse that "this" was the final straw and that he had a history of temp bans and bad posts, and his 4k post count was a bunch of junk to make a justification of why he was baned. however, no where in the rules of the site have i ever read that you can be banned for telling a lie or causing mass deception, you bent the rules as you saw fit and made an excuse for doing it. sure people agree with you, they view it as "catching the bad guy!, the justice hammer wins again!" but honestly there was no justice here, he broke no rule. maybe a temporary ban or a chance at a public apology for not listening to a moderator, but a perma ban for sharing a made up story is absurd.

Have you even read the rules?
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
July 04 2010 01:12 GMT
#689
On July 04 2010 10:08 Radical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 09:59 Malgrif wrote:
On July 04 2010 09:34 Chill wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.

While I appreciate your well-thought out criticism which ignores the many explanations that have given and is based purely on assumption, I am going to have to maintain with my current course of action.

Should this inconvenience you, please contact Kennigit via PM.

+ Show Spoiler +
he was baned because he carried on with his story and you didn't like that he was telling a fib. you used the excuse that "this" was the final straw and that he had a history of temp bans and bad posts, and his 4k post count was a bunch of junk to make a justification of why he was baned. however, no where in the rules of the site have i ever read that you can be banned for telling a lie or causing mass deception, you bent the rules as you saw fit and made an excuse for doing it. sure people agree with you, they view it as "catching the bad guy!, the justice hammer wins again!" but honestly there was no justice here, he broke no rule. maybe a temporary ban or a chance at a public apology for not listening to a moderator, but a perma ban for sharing a made up story is absurd.

Have you even read the rules?
have you? o.O
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
Radical
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States481 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 01:14:01
July 04 2010 01:13 GMT
#690
On July 04 2010 10:12 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 10:08 Radical wrote:
On July 04 2010 09:59 Malgrif wrote:
On July 04 2010 09:34 Chill wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.

While I appreciate your well-thought out criticism which ignores the many explanations that have given and is based purely on assumption, I am going to have to maintain with my current course of action.

Should this inconvenience you, please contact Kennigit via PM.

+ Show Spoiler +
he was baned because he carried on with his story and you didn't like that he was telling a fib. you used the excuse that "this" was the final straw and that he had a history of temp bans and bad posts, and his 4k post count was a bunch of junk to make a justification of why he was baned. however, no where in the rules of the site have i ever read that you can be banned for telling a lie or causing mass deception, you bent the rules as you saw fit and made an excuse for doing it. sure people agree with you, they view it as "catching the bad guy!, the justice hammer wins again!" but honestly there was no justice here, he broke no rule. maybe a temporary ban or a chance at a public apology for not listening to a moderator, but a perma ban for sharing a made up story is absurd.

Have you even read the rules?
have you? o.O

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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 04 2010 01:24 GMT
#691
has this thread seriously derailed into people discussing TL rules, urgggg. Why is anyone calling Chill's ban unfair, or unjust, the guy was warned, and chill even said in this thread previous to the ban why it would happen and the reasons for it. FFS people.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Oracle
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada411 Posts
July 04 2010 01:26 GMT
#692
Poll: Bigger upset?

Minji Incident (21)
 
78%

Progaming Scandal (6)
 
22%

27 total votes

Your vote: Bigger upset?

(Vote): Progaming Scandal
(Vote): Minji Incident



sadly im more upset by this

+ Show Spoiler +
wasnt hit too hard by the scandal actually
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 01:30:35
July 04 2010 01:28 GMT
#693
If this was all some sort of funny or ridiculous fabrication I think a ban might be too harsh. But doing some insanely normal meeting a girl and going out with her, 1500+ reply emo blog about the whole process and not fessing up when given a chance is just ridiculous. To fabricate something like this, and not admitting to it when pushed, you would need to have a severe psychological disorder, I would actually be worried about him and what he might do not being able to post here anymore.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
July 04 2010 01:28 GMT
#694
On July 04 2010 09:59 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 09:34 Chill wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.

While I appreciate your well-thought out criticism which ignores the many explanations that have given and is based purely on assumption, I am going to have to maintain with my current course of action.

Should this inconvenience you, please contact Kennigit via PM.

he was baned because he carried on with his story and you didn't like that he was telling a fib. you used the excuse that "this" was the final straw and that he had a history of temp bans and bad posts, and his 4k post count was a bunch of junk to make a justification of why he was baned. however, no where in the rules of the site have i ever read that you can be banned for telling a lie or causing mass deception, you bent the rules as you saw fit and made an excuse for doing it. sure people agree with you, they view it as "catching the bad guy!, the justice hammer wins again!" but honestly there was no justice here, he broke no rule. maybe a temporary ban or a chance at a public apology for not listening to a moderator, but a perma ban for sharing a made up story is absurd.

There is no absolute ruleset as you imply here, so there was nothing to bend. Common sense supersedes all guidelines that we have laid out. Would you be happy with someone who lied to you for 3 days? Just act here like you're among friends.

There are no explicit rules against starting websites to steal credit card numbers either.
There are no explicit rules against posting as a hot girl and then releasing all the PMs you get.
There are no explicit rules against a lot of things, but clearly you can see how they aren't conducive to a strong community.

My logic is very clearly laid out; Don't call it absurd simply because you following another line of subjective reasoning.
Moderator
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 04 2010 01:29 GMT
#695
On July 04 2010 10:28 PokePill wrote:
If this was all some sort of funny or ridiculous fabrication I think a ban would be too harsh. But doing some insanely normal meeting a girl and going out with her, emo blog about the whole process and not fessing up when given a chance is just ridiculous. To fabricate something like this, and not fess up when given a chance, you would need to have a severe psychological disorder, I would actually be worried about him and what he might do not being able to post here anymore.


Create a new account and keep posting here?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 04 2010 01:31 GMT
#696
On July 04 2010 10:29 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 10:28 PokePill wrote:
If this was all some sort of funny or ridiculous fabrication I think a ban would be too harsh. But doing some insanely normal meeting a girl and going out with her, emo blog about the whole process and not fessing up when given a chance is just ridiculous. To fabricate something like this, and not fess up when given a chance, you would need to have a severe psychological disorder, I would actually be worried about him and what he might do not being able to post here anymore.


Create a new account and keep posting here?


They are tracking him though, he will get banned pretty fast if he does.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 04 2010 01:32 GMT
#697
On July 04 2010 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 10:29 Megalisk wrote:
On July 04 2010 10:28 PokePill wrote:
If this was all some sort of funny or ridiculous fabrication I think a ban would be too harsh. But doing some insanely normal meeting a girl and going out with her, emo blog about the whole process and not fessing up when given a chance is just ridiculous. To fabricate something like this, and not fess up when given a chance, you would need to have a severe psychological disorder, I would actually be worried about him and what he might do not being able to post here anymore.


Create a new account and keep posting here?


They are tracking him though, he will get banned pretty fast if he does.


There is always ways around that..I wouldn't be surprised if he is already in our midst D:.
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 04 2010 01:37 GMT
#698
On July 04 2010 10:32 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 04 2010 10:29 Megalisk wrote:
On July 04 2010 10:28 PokePill wrote:
If this was all some sort of funny or ridiculous fabrication I think a ban would be too harsh. But doing some insanely normal meeting a girl and going out with her, emo blog about the whole process and not fessing up when given a chance is just ridiculous. To fabricate something like this, and not fess up when given a chance, you would need to have a severe psychological disorder, I would actually be worried about him and what he might do not being able to post here anymore.


Create a new account and keep posting here?


They are tracking him though, he will get banned pretty fast if he does.


There is always ways around that..I wouldn't be surprised if he is already in our midst D:.


There are ways, but is it really worth the effort? look at chibi, tdot, or the like. They all get caught sooner or later, you make a slip up, post from an IP that links to your original account, etc....

they never stick around long.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
July 04 2010 01:38 GMT
#699
On July 04 2010 10:32 Megalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 10:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 04 2010 10:29 Megalisk wrote:
On July 04 2010 10:28 PokePill wrote:
If this was all some sort of funny or ridiculous fabrication I think a ban would be too harsh. But doing some insanely normal meeting a girl and going out with her, emo blog about the whole process and not fessing up when given a chance is just ridiculous. To fabricate something like this, and not fess up when given a chance, you would need to have a severe psychological disorder, I would actually be worried about him and what he might do not being able to post here anymore.


Create a new account and keep posting here?


They are tracking him though, he will get banned pretty fast if he does.


There is always ways around that..I wouldn't be surprised if he is already in our midst D:.


If Chill's good, proxies or even posting in a new location won't be enough.
baller
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
527 Posts
July 04 2010 01:40 GMT
#700
On July 04 2010 09:59 Malgrif wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 09:34 Chill wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:42 Malgrif wrote:
so he got baned for fooling everyone? this hardly seems justified.

While I appreciate your well-thought out criticism which ignores the many explanations that have given and is based purely on assumption, I am going to have to maintain with my current course of action.

Should this inconvenience you, please contact Kennigit via PM.

he was baned because he carried on with his story and you didn't like that he was telling a fib. you used the excuse that "this" was the final straw and that he had a history of temp bans and bad posts, and his 4k post count was a bunch of junk to make a justification of why he was baned. however, no where in the rules of the site have i ever read that you can be banned for telling a lie or causing mass deception, you bent the rules as you saw fit and made an excuse for doing it. sure people agree with you, they view it as "catching the bad guy!, the justice hammer wins again!" but honestly there was no justice here, he broke no rule. maybe a temporary ban or a chance at a public apology for not listening to a moderator, but a perma ban for sharing a made up story is absurd.

i will make an analogy that may help u understand better

lets say theres a real life party. if ur like wuh?? a party is where people assemble to drink and talk with each other. ok so ur going to a party, and it is hosted by steve liquid and his friends. steve liquid has a lot of friends. lets say one of the kids going is named Xero. the party runs out of beer, and Xero says hes goin out to get some beer. but he doesn't actually get any beer. he lied. he lied to the party. so steve liquid says, get out, we dont want liars at our party. then someone named malcom grif says, totally unfair, theres no rule at the party saying u cant lie about mass deception.

now, imagine urself as malcom grif, and "Xero" as dream)xero, and "steve liquid's party" as team liquid forums. do u see now? "oh shit baller that makes so much sense" u say? ur welcome.
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