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Ok, a lot of people gave me some nice advice and I thank you for that.
This one was backed up by several people and reflects my idea how I should work my way around this:
On June 26 2010 23:20 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2010 23:15 ionize wrote:
Hey there, it's me again and today I got one simple question: If a player, who just knows the basic of SCBW, decides to go for ICCUP and learn the game within 6 months, what would be your advice? Or do you even have some kind of step by step plan in mind?
Cheers
ionize -Mass games- -Watch your replays, see your mistakes -Don't play if you are getting tired -Learn buildorders
Current situation
- I haven't played proper SC for almost 10 years and back then it was only LAN, you can guess at what level I am. :D
- I attend university and got to cope with my schedule and workload besides gaming. So I have to get a gaming schedule I think.
- I also play amateur Unreal Tournament still (there is no professional UT anymore, but amateur is not to be taken lightly). This way I also have to keep in shape by playing at least 2h per day.
Immediate plans
- I will follow these four simple rules, starting tomorrow morning
- Depending on my workload/schedule/2h UT I will mass as many games as possible and reflect upon them individually
- I will conclude every game(s) session with watching some particularly striking games to figure out what I did wrong and work on that
- I will post a daily review as long as I spent some time playing SCBW that day. This way I hope to get feedback, advice and encouragement.
I hope this works out, as I know that I can be a damn bi**h when I don't want to do things. So I have to get myself super motivated to keep going. At the moment I am motivated as I like to take a challenge. Let's see how far I can get. You'll here more from me tomorrow.
Cheers
ionize
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Good luck. You'll probably lose at least 30 games before you actually get wins.
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keep a water bottle next to you, and drink always after every game. you get more tired then you'd imagine
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i would stop mass gaming, and attempt to learn a few thing first. sounds like you don't know anything about competitive bw- and frankly going on icup will discourage you quite quickly. What i would suggest would be looking at liquidpedia. Learn and memorize the 'standard' build order for each of your 3 match ups. play against a computer opponent and make sure that you drill each build into your head. You need to memorize this build, and make sure that you can follow it to the letter.
Going on iccup before you have some builds memorized, or at leas have some grasp on how a match up is going to work is simply going to be counter productive. You have not played the game long enough or have enough understanding to 'look back on your games.' that will come with time, and frankly this is the wrong time.
What is going to be holding you back the most is simply mechanics. You will probably play around 40-60 apm- and this is nowhere near where you need to be. Mechanics will come with muscle memory and time. Once again i would like to suggest that you start off your SC career by playing the computer, and perfect a build order order for each match up. I feel that this type of environment is the most conducive for learning, and is the best way to improve. If you would like i can always play a few games with you. Just give me a PM and i can help you out with any zerg match. pvz, zvp, zvt, tvz, zvz.
Anyway gl, hf, gg, and don't get discouraged when you fall to e rank on icup- and have a record of 0-12341234.
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try to form a small "hypothesis" before you go into watching replays. often times your suspicions will be confirmed, but since you were looking for that anyway you'll catch something that you would have missed otherwise.
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This is how I started (mind you I had a working knowledge of BW, just not of the competitive type):
1: Watched ALOT of pro games
2: Read Liquipedia
3: Picked ONE build to learn first (10/15 Gate)
4: Picked ONE map to learn that build on (Neo Medusa)
5: Played about 20-25 games vs the comp until I was sure I had it memorized.
6: Started on iCCup
7: ???
8: Profit
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If you want to get better fast just play one matchup and one build order over and on only one map over again for days and days. Also, you have to play a lot and always try to play correctly, people tend to overvalue learning and watching starcraft because actually all the skill comes from mass gaming. Also, watching your replays helps a lot but only the ones you lose. Sometimes you may get the feeling that you dont need to watch the replay because you know what you did wrong but watching it still clears up a lot and helps you analyze your mistakes.
Its harder to do it like this but at least you will get D+ and even C- quite fast so you dont have to be a part of the "i have been following sc for years and im still D in iccup" dudes.
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Change don't play when you're feeling tired to, get up out of your chair and run around a bit to get blood flowing every 3+ games and keep playing.
Or you can just make lurkers.
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You should consider playing by your self before to get the basic build orders down. Once you have it locked down you can get some real practice in.
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On June 27 2010 00:28 Lightwip wrote:
Good luck. You'll probably lose at least 30 games before you actually get wins.
Not if he plays protoss.
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i suggest you watch progamer vods (or even better, replays) when you need a break, and before playing, in addition to those 4 other things on your list. This will help you learn faster and give you more motivation as well. GL
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On June 27 2010 00:13 ionize wrote:
you can guess at what level I am. :D
I see what you did there
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