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radar14
United States1437 Posts
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
If you're using regular headphones and stuff, the differences would be nominal though. (Reviews of the Zune would back up this claim i.e. Source) I would go the Zune route if your PMP will be a PMP. The two Apple products attack other needs such as space and games/apps; whichever fits your criteria the most is best. | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On June 23 2010 08:59 intrudor wrote: sound quality anyone? kekek need inputs here you have to listen. Some people are pick and notice and have good headphones. Some people use shit ear buds and dont give a fuck. if YOU cant notice, it doesnt matter. Just go to the store | ||
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wiseman500
United States29 Posts
On June 23 2010 07:44 beg wrote: biggest con for apple stuff: bad audio quality. This is not necessarily true, it depends on the bitrate of the music you put on your ipod. If the dac is your problem then you can invest in a lod cable which bypasses the dac completley (You'd need a headphone amp to control volume after this though) But the stock headphones on all of these players are pretty bad and won't give you nice sound no matter what you do =p. Anyways I'd say go with the classic, ipod touch apps are great, but i've found that the wonder of them kinda wears off after a while. | ||
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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
On June 23 2010 09:18 wiseman500 wrote: This is not necessarily true, it depends on the bitrate of the music you put on your ipod. If the dac is your problem then you can invest in a lod cable which bypasses the dac completley (You'd need a headphone amp to control volume after this though) But the stock headphones on all of these players are pretty bad and won't give you nice sound no matter what you do =p. Anyways I'd say go with the classic, ipod touch apps are great, but i've found that the wonder of them kinda wears off after a while. Wow...this made me laugh, you aren't going to use 120gb or whatever they are..go with a 32 touch, it's obviously better then the classic..wtf? lol As for your battle.net account, get an ipod / android and get a free authenticator app for your battle.net security, apps are alot of fun btw. On June 23 2010 09:39 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: ipod touch unless you actually have gigantic library. i've only used 16gb for music, i have no videos, and about 5gb for apps. but i dont have many apps either, lol That doesn't make any sense.. you have 5gb of apps and but you dont have many apps..? | ||
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seRapH
United States9706 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
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beg
991 Posts
On June 23 2010 09:18 wiseman500 wrote: This is not necessarily true, it depends on the bitrate of the music you put on your ipod. If the dac is your problem then you can invest in a lod cable which bypasses the dac completley (You'd need a headphone amp to control volume after this though) But the stock headphones on all of these players are pretty bad and won't give you nice sound no matter what you do =p. Anyways I'd say go with the classic, ipod touch apps are great, but i've found that the wonder of them kinda wears off after a while. quality always depends on bitrate, but if the same file sounds completely shit on my ipod, while it sounds good on my PC... well... also i was using good headphones :} interesting stuff if you can fix this problem by bypassing the DAC and getting a headphone amp.. i don't know about this, but i guess i'd rather get an entirely different mp3player then. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
anway, i'd say go with the zune hd since i have experience with zune and i don't see how the hd could be much different, if you really just want a big hdd go with the classic ipod | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
On June 23 2010 09:56 beg wrote: quality always depends on bitrate, but if the same file sounds completely shit on my ipod, while it sounds good on my PC... well... also i was using good headphones :} interesting stuff if you can fix this problem by bypassing the DAC and getting a headphone amp.. i don't know about this, but i guess i'd rather get an entirely different mp3player then. Quality depends on the equipment used to record the piece (and the intelligence of those setting up said equipment) more than anything else. You have to be really, REALLY cheap on bitrate to notice a drop in quality. OP, don't worry about the sound quality of Apple mp3 players. They're not some random Chinese knockoff products (though they're made in China I think), they're a popular brand that can afford to meet standards. The only problem with iPod is that they're monopolizing the market right now, so by continuing to support Apple mp3 players, you're dicking yourself over in the future when you might want more choice and less proprietary software. To be honest though, it doesn't really sound like you want an mp3 player. I think you should just get a DS or something, and tell your dad you wanna keep your nano. Why get an mp3 player that can play shitty games when you can get a portable game console that can play good games? | ||
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ella_guru
Canada1741 Posts
On June 23 2010 10:42 Chef wrote: To be honest though, it doesn't really sound like you want an mp3 player. I think you should just get a DS or something, and tell your dad you wanna keep your nano. Why get an mp3 player that can play shitty games when you can get a portable game console that can play good games? +1ing. you want a novelty machine! An mp3 player plays mp3s. | ||
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topspinserve
United States147 Posts
On June 23 2010 08:56 DeathByMonkeys wrote: The whole no Flash thing was the main thing I didn't like, youtube would be nice to have, but I think I can live without it. The ap issue isn't really that big, I didn't really have anything in mind but I thought it would be nice to have the option of an ap for just about anything that popped up. I think I might end up with the iPod Classic and get a phone with wifi/3G in the future. For the people saying get an iPhone, it's not really that simple. I think my contract is up with Alltel in the next 4-5 months so I might try to get an Android based phone with Verizon soon after. Then again the the HD is sexy... grr idk. Hm yeah, if you end up getting an iPod classic, you might as well just keep the Nano or buy an old Zune/hard drive iPod online for pretty cheap, imo. The Classic screen is a little small to watch videos on. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66071 Posts
not sure about the audio quality though, since i never used the other two. | ||
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DeathByMonkeys
United States742 Posts
On June 23 2010 10:42 Chef wrote: Quality depends on the equipment used to record the piece (and the intelligence of those setting up said equipment) more than anything else. You have to be really, REALLY cheap on bitrate to notice a drop in quality. OP, don't worry about the sound quality of Apple mp3 players. They're not some random Chinese knockoff products (though they're made in China I think), they're a popular brand that can afford to meet standards. The only problem with iPod is that they're monopolizing the market right now, so by continuing to support Apple mp3 players, you're dicking yourself over in the future when you might want more choice and less proprietary software. To be honest though, it doesn't really sound like you want an mp3 player. I think you should just get a DS or something, and tell your dad you wanna keep your nano. Why get an mp3 player that can play shitty games when you can get a portable game console that can play good games? I definitely need something that can hold a lot of music. I use my ipod a lot, going to class, hooked up to my stereo in my truck, long car rides, ect ect ect. That's why I'm inclined to get the Classic, so I won't have to worry about ever filling it up. Then again having wifi to check facebook/gmail and watch a few youtube videos every now and then is a feature I could get used to. Plus the touchscreen mp3 players are sexy, especially the HD, I like it's UI a lot, but it's just missing the ability to play youtube videos. The thing is now I'm considering the Classic for it's crazy amount of memory and then just getting a new phone with wifi/3G, but that's a little while off into the future. Another thing, has anyone had HDD problems in their Classic? I've been researching these MP3 players all day and that's one thing somebody mentioned. The Classic has a HDD while the other two use flash memory, so the Classic is more prone to hard drive failure. Especially since I do use my ipod a lot in my truck, do you think the continuous vibrations from driving would have any negative effect on the ipod's hard drive? EDIT: Also the whole aps issue isn't really that big of a deal. Sure having a shit ton of aps (iTouch) is a nice luxury, but it's not really a deal breaker. I don't know though, I haven't really experienced ever having access to such a wealth of aps on anything, do you guys think I should weigh the aps thing more heavily? | ||
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So no fek
United States3001 Posts
On June 23 2010 07:40 ella_guru wrote: Sony Walkman edit : 250 bucks jesus. I must have a skewed perception of money. There is no need to drop that much scrilla on mp3 player. My advice - get an mp3 to listen to music, not as a gadget. God damn you dont need youtube on the go! Pay attention to at least some of your surroundings. Ya I know long bus rides and all that QQ, just enjoy a good album start to fin . I'm getting old : ( Nah, I agree 100% with you. Granted I have a smart phone that's fun to screw around with every now and then, and comes in handy when I need to look something up. But my MP3 player is currently a 4GB sansa clip that cost me $20. Not the best amount of storage space, but when do you ever listen to 4 gigs of music in one sitting? Sure if you take a long road trip and don't have access to a computer, it might be nice to have more, but it's still a couple hundred songs at least, and I'm more than willing to listen to something a few times before I get tired of it. If you're absolutely going to spend that much for an MP3 player, I'd personally go with the Zune. I've had a chance to play around with one for a bit, and it's pretty cool. I need to warn you that I have an extreme dislike for Apple products, though. | ||
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lac29
United States1485 Posts
On June 23 2010 09:48 Hot_Bid wrote: Normally I would close this for the usual "TL is not a tech support forum" blah blah but you seem to have put a good deal of effort and information into the OP, so it might be very useful to any TL user who needs to buy an MP3 player. Cheers. Why the sudden strictness? This seems like a more than appropriate topic and also was put in a blog, not in the general section or other sections where it shouldn't go. To the OP, best thing is to try out each and see what you like and how they feel/sound. Unless you listen to lossless formats and have a non-stock headphone with or without an amp then it won't matter much in terms of sound quality. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Another thing, has anyone had HDD problems in their Classic? I've been researching these MP3 players all day and that's one thing somebody mentioned. The Classic has a HDD while the other two use flash memory, so the Classic is more prone to hard drive failure. Especially since I do use my ipod a lot in my truck, do you think the continuous vibrations from driving would have any negative effect on the ipod's hard drive? You don't have to worry about this at all. Hard drives can fail, but when people talk about that they're talking about archiving data for coming decades. I never got the classic, but I had a 4th generation and a 5.5 generation and the harddrives are both still working fine. The earphone jack on my 5.5 broke (my latest mp3 player is Cowon S9), but it took years for even that to happen. I still use it as a portable harddrive. Flash drives have no moving parts, which is fancy and means they make no noise, and have slightly quicker response times in various scenarios (no reader arm has to physically move) but the difference is negligible and not a concern for most applications... and certainly not just listening to music. | ||
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mOnion
United States5651 Posts
I had insane problems with it freezing, but there's no power reset button, so I had to wait until it ran out of battery, which is an insanely long time (like a week) before letting it die and charging it again to "reset it". That is, until it permanently froze on me. Then I got a replacement, and the exact thing happened. The firmware is also weaksauce, and doesn't display languages other than one's using the english alphabet, so if you're into KPOP you're gonna have to read a bunch of square square square language I recommend the iPod Classic, I had that before it got stolen and its REALLY sleek, and holds way more than that 32 gig sad sad touch (I have like 90gigs of music, idunno bout you) Then use foobar music player with the ipod mod so that you don't have to deal with iTunes shit, and you are set for life. I just got that setup and I couldn't be happier. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On June 23 2010 13:37 mOnion wrote: as a Zune owner I highly recommend that you don't get it I had insane problems with it freezing, but there's no power reset button, so I had to wait until it ran out of battery, which is an insanely long time (like a week) before letting it die and charging it again to "reset it". That is, until it permanently froze on me. Then I got a replacement, and the exact thing happened. Did you ever try Google? Because there's a hard reset and a hard power off button combination. But that's one of the funniest things I've heard today. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Flash Drive + wifi + screen size > than 5x more memory space at cheaper price. Tbh the click wheel sucks dick anyways though. Apple really knows how to rape consumers. They can easily make 300+ gig touch devices like this but they won't release them until they make a 80gb itouch, then a 300gb classic, then a 160gb touch, etc. So it'll be like 5 years or something. I have an 80gb classic and I use it for an external drive to transfer files from place to place all the time. This is also something big to consider. Can the touch do this? PS- Since iphone 4 just got announced there will possibly be a better touch coming out at the same time along with it. Isn't that how it worked for the first touches? | ||
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