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People are entitled to what they believe, while it should be from multiple experiences and not just being spoon fed something (fact or fiction) cause I suppose while it is bad, the same can apply to purely scientific museums. While they might believe that we have evidence to support such claims, so do these Creationists.
All in all, the U.S. Constitution allows for freedom of expression, because it is the minority who does need protecting (Evolutionists were a minority once upon a time). Again, wrong and right doesn't matter, they have to right to do this, it's just the morals that come into question.
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On June 15 2010 02:04 ella_guru wrote:SANTA
lol
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You know that he is simply preaching to the converted, its for creationists to watch and go "mmm yeah down with EVIL-ution"
Same thing goes for kids, if they have been raised by their parents to be creationists, they will accept it, likewise, if they have been raised anything else chances are they will reject it out of hand. Theres no need to worry(sort of).
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I don't think you're giving kids enough credit, I recall being taught about Christianity and Jesus and all that in school at a very young age and just thinking "wtf is this shit?". Most kids have the sense to realize that this is bullshit and those who don't realize it have probably been brainwashed by their parents/church/school already.
I did get a good laugh from that video though, "I think it takes more faith to believe in evolution, not as many facts" ROFL 
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My grandma is a Lutheran, my dad thinks we came from another planet (idk there), my mom is agnostic, and I'm an agnostic atheist. The faith is dying with generations. 
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On June 15 2010 02:25 XFire wrote:My grandma is a Lutheran, my dad thinks we came from another planet (idk there), my mom is agnostic, and I'm an agnostic atheist. The faith is dying with generations.
How does that work?
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just because these guys are dumbasses doesn't mean we can't attribute some of the world's mysteries to faith and a greater power. the problem with these guys is that they choose to ignore scientific evidence, or just make up their own. humans and dinosaurs were proven not to exist together, so there is no reason to continue believing that unless you are stupid. however, evolution does not prove that we were not created my a greater being, we just got here by a way other than random teleportation. so really, science and faith can coexist together.
and i'm not sure too many impressionable kids will be coerced into closing their minds just by a video that they probably wouldn't even find. it would really only affect people who already thought like that. idk
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Cool! A brainwashing facility! ^^
On a more serious note, most people that would visit it, will have unshackable faith already, so it doesn't really matter. However, I can imagine that a lot of kids that might have made up their minds when they grow up, being irreversibly indoctrinated by this fairy tales collection.
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Parents will typically be much more of an influence than a random video
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On the net they will see different opinions and thus have to learn how to form an opinion for themselves.
I'm more worried about home schooled children who only ever learn the opinion of their parents/a small homogeneous community.
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Hm...interesting, I had personally thought that museums focused on creationism existed already o_o
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Why do I get so upset reading that website, ffs humanity...
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If the children are able to find this sort of thing they will run into plenty of better sources along the way. Hearing perhaps that "evolution is bad" they will be like "huh, I wonder what it is?" and type it into google. First result is wikipedia. A little down is PBS, Berkeley and NewScientist. The arguments presented will be logical and supported, something that even young kids can appreciate.
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Humans come in many shapes and sizes. Evolution brings forth a wealth of diversity in individuals, of which the least fit for life in its environment will perish before successful reproduction. The most fit individuals will successfully reproduce many offspring. What 'least fit' and 'most fit' means here, has nothing to do whatsoever with a concept of 'understanding evolution', and evolution doesn't care. I wish evolution was more aware of it being neglected and feel animosity towards creationists. (watch out for anthropomorphisms kids, evolution is an observation of a process, not an actual entity)
That said I'd like to add "BOOOOOOO!"
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On June 15 2010 02:28 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2010 02:25 XFire wrote:My grandma is a Lutheran, my dad thinks we came from another planet (idk there), my mom is agnostic, and I'm an agnostic atheist. The faith is dying with generations. How does that work?
The person realizes that there is no way of currently proving that there is no god, however, there is more than enough evidence out there to show that the gods people believe in right now are fallacies..... However, the belief is that there is no god. That is how it separates itself from both atheist and agnostic. It is like a mesh of the two.
A good way to look at is by examining Russell's Teapot.
If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is an intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time.
Some other useful quotes:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? - Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? - Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing? - Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? - Then why call him God.
"You take the word of one book...written by middle aged men in middle age tents,but you wont even examine the evidence presented by thousands of scientists in thousands of books...Pathetic.
You assume that I am an atheist because I hate god. NO, I am an atheist because...I have examined the evidence of the universe, of life, of matter presented by science. Then I asked my self, "Which is more plausible and complete?, science or religion. Which is more open to any hypothesis, provided there is evidence..." . I did not become an atheist just by waking up and saying, "I hate god". No, I couldn't care less what the theologians do in their varied places of worship.
No body repeat No body is an atheist "one morning". Atheism can be correctly correlated with liberal political views, simply because, as atheists, we do not attach "sin" to everything people do in their personal lives. Who are you, or who am I, to say that two consenting adults are sinners?. Enjoy your sexuality, and let others enjoy theirs."
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours."
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On June 15 2010 02:46 MasterOfChaos wrote:
On the net they will see different opinions and thus have to learn how to form an opinion for themselves.
I'm more worried about home schooled children who only ever learn the opinion of their parents/a small homogeneous community.
Christian internet is the next step.
Seriously, this is a bit of a desperate attempt, but I really feel that it will, ironically, just make spiritualism and religion harder to take into serious consideration (where as a matter of personal opinion, I believe only the latter to be damaging, the former can be quite enriching)
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On June 15 2010 02:01 zrules wrote:
People are entitled to what they believe
every person whose beliefs are not consistent with reality effectively harm other people by making ignorance more widely accepted. so i disagree.
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I don't think that "knowing" about evolution or that the Earth revolves around the Sun is very useful. I've never applied that knowledge except in debates over the Internet  That's why I think it's hard to convince a theist of common knowledge like that - it's not very practical. On that same point and contrary to the belief of a lot of atheists, I don't think theists are any less smart, in general, than their counterparts.
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