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So one week after sending a email to LZgamer and not getting a response this morning I sent a email to incontrol about getting coaching. Well 4 hours after emailing him I got a response. I just sent the response email back, and I am serious about learning and getting a coach so it looks like I will have one, the only problem is the beta is down right now so I cant start right away. Oh well.
In other news now like a bunch of people I don't have much to do since the beta is down. And well I do not want to get terrible while I wait so I am not sure what I want to do. I may look for my old copy of BW but I think Ill just practice typing fast so I can help improve my apm.
Also I want to thank husky for coming into my blog and saying it wasn't him. That was cool of him.
I'm also not terribly interested in the world cup, I coming from the US was never big into soccer I cant see that changing now. I will watch a game or 2 to see if I change my mind though.
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I've had iNcontroL, Machine and iNka so far in a teaching course, so far i've enjoyed iNka's method the best  but it's cool to play with the EG guys and make friends.
Haven't tried out LzGamer yet i might when the beta comes back up or not since i'm leaving soon anyway.
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You should try the build order tester while sc2 is down to try to refine some builds ;o
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I'm sorry if I didnt reply
havnt been checking my mail since sc2 went down >_<
been playing too much HoN.
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Ill check and make sure you didn't respond, Ive had the same email since 1999 so I get tons and tons of spam so I may have overlooked it but I don't think so. I am glad that you did respond here though. Can you check and make sure the email I sent you went through?
Btw I was kidding about just typing fast...
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My advice is don't waste your money on coaching for a game thats in beta stage.
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On June 12 2010 05:17 TelecOm1 wrote:
My advice is don't waste your money on coaching.
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On June 12 2010 05:34 oo_xerox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2010 05:17 TelecOm1 wrote:
My advice is don't waste your money on coaching. fixed
solid advice, but sometimes people gotta be taught how to learn right...wait
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I look forward to working with you sir
There will be haters btw.. can't find a thread on any of these forums where someone isn't hating on the concept. Take it for what it is Sometimes negative conjecture offers a good perspective but don't let it drown out your curiosity/need.
GL!
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Coaching? Never.
I can spend money better.
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On June 12 2010 07:21 {88}iNcontroL wrote:I look forward to working with you sir There will be haters btw.. can't find a thread on any of these forums where someone isn't hating on the concept. Take it for what it is Sometimes negative conjecture offers a good perspective but don't let it drown out your curiosity/need. GL!
I once wrote a largish post in full support of you guys ^__^^ >)>))>
I'd say go for it, you're probably just going to buy Cheetos anyway.
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On June 12 2010 04:25 Lz wrote:I'm sorry if I didnt reply havnt been checking my mail since sc2 went down >_< been playing too much HoN.
Stream some.
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Seriously... There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason at all to pay for coaching for a video game.
1)So many people stream (some who are among the best Lz and NonY to name 2)
2)Liquipedia
3)Replays
I mean seriously how much more could you want? This isn't 1998 where none of those things existed. So much information available for free DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY WTF >_<!!!
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On June 12 2010 08:17 zeuS~ wrote:
Seriously... There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason at all to pay for coaching for a video game.
1)So many people stream (some who are among the best Lz and NonY to name 2)
2)Liquipedia
3)Replays
I mean seriously how much more could you want? This isn't 1998 where none of those things existed. So much information available for free DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY WTF >_<!!!
None of these things can look at your game and tell you exactly what needs work on more. I see myself as a above average player that wants to become great at this game and sure I may be able to get where I want to go by myself but that could take years and alot of time. If you see time as money , then this is a good investment if you see a coach increasing your ability faster. As someone who has seen the improvement from a poker coach. I see a coach as someone who as already put in their time and know what it takes, and has the ability to put this information into someone else and make that person get to where they want to be faster.
I see this as paying for a life shortcut. Sure I can learn chemistry on my own, but I can go to school and learn it from someone else alot faster. I see hireing a coach for SC2 as the same thing. My end goal is tournaments. And instead of being able to get there in 3 years with a coach I maybe able to get there in 1 year.
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On June 12 2010 08:17 zeuS~ wrote:
Seriously... There is ABSOLUTELY NO reason at all to pay for coaching for a video game.
1)So many people stream (some who are among the best Lz and NonY to name 2)
2)Liquipedia
3)Replays
I mean seriously how much more could you want? This isn't 1998 where none of those things existed. So much information available for free DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY WTF >_<!!!
id be willing to bet you dont get half the information out of a replay/stream/vod that you could, and i doubt you understand the reasoning behind most of what you do see. if it were that easy to get good thered be a whole lot more good players.
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Are you saying that gosucoaching offers the same level of insight as a a proteam in korea? The reason for there being only a handful of players who seem to be at the top even in SC2 beta is because of how much time they spend practicing / talent.
I mean your on CJ , don't all of the players for the most part spend around the same amount of time practicing? Then why do some consistently preform better than others in proleague/starleagues?
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how on earth do you make the jump from my post to "that gosucoaching offers the same level of insight as a a proteam in korea"
obviously not, lzgamer couldnt even give competent tic tac toe lessons. doesnt change the fact that they can help a lot of players.
I mean your on CJ , don't all of the players for the most part spend around the same amount of time practicing? Then why do some consistently preform better than others in proleague/starleagues?
is also irrelevant. people have different skill ceilings, and theres a lot of intangibles that go into determining performance at that level. i dont see how thats an argument against coaching though.
consider the fact that every pro team has coaches, players regularly credit coaches for improvements in their play. in fact nearly every professional athlete has a coach as well. are they all wasting their money too?
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There are a LOT of people that can't figure the game out on their own. I have taught many of my friends how to play SC2 better. I am absolutely positive that a lot of the stuff I have told them they wouldn't have figured out for a long time if ever by watching replays/reading teamliquid.
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I think what all the naysayers mean, is that if you can't figure out most of the stuff on your own to begin with. Then you're not gonna be good enough even after a coaching lesson for it to be worth it. The typical people who pay for coaching, I would assume, are the people who don't have time or wanna take some easy way to the top.
On June 12 2010 11:26 Bosu wrote:
There are a LOT of people that can't figure the game out on their own. I have taught many of my friends how to play SC2 better. I am absolutely positive that a lot of the stuff I have told them they wouldn't have figured out for a long time if ever by watching replays/reading teamliquid.
And exactly this.
It just seems like the whole coaching business is exploiting bad players. But a fool and his money are soon parted, so whatever. I'd be a hypocrite if I said I was against coaching for money.
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