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[SC2]The reality of e-sports is clear now!

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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 29 2010 20:04 GMT
#1
It is pretty clear what is going on now. We have all of the information necessary to know what is going on - Blizzard started off with good thoughts in mind, to make e-sports more legitimate on an international level, etc.

Except that everything they have done since SC2 beta has begun has been the exact opposite of what they have preached and promised for Starcraft 2. And they are making the same mistakes that EA did with command and conquer 3, as well as other huge glaring ones that are questionable business-wise and maybe ethics-wise?

Before beta started, I was always 100% cynical about SC2 being a good game, on Brood War's level. I am happy to say I was completely 180'd - SC2's gameplay rivals that of Brood War and is the only RTS in the last few years, and in the next coming ones that will be able to stake that claim - being Brood War's successor and rival with great gameplay.

But I was also a cynic about blizzard and all of the promises and grandeur e-sports things they were talking about. Many of us here on teamliquid already knew about Kespa aka dogspa and how they handle korean e-sports, as well as how they are one of the organizations that began e-sports.

We also know that blizzard and them have been having at each other's throats, because it's blizzard's game in the first place, but e-sports is very much kespa/korea's doing, not blizzard's doing - and that is something that blizzard is not respecting right now.

It is time to man up, both Kespa, and Blizzard. Instead of vying for control of "e-sports" what both of these organizations and SUPPORTERS and growers of e-sports should be doing is working together right now, acknowledging that they both shared an equally pivotal part in what we now know today as "e-sports."

This is not possible if Kespa is unwilling to acknowledge that they would not exist without Blizzard's great game, and they do in fact owe a lot to Blizzard, possibly monetarily, but more so principally. No SC = Kespa would not have come to fruition like it had.

But now the ball is in Blizzard's court, and they are fucking it all up. Yes, Blizzard created the game, but no, Blizzard did not create or perpetuate e-sports.

The fans, korea, and the entire international brood war community are responsible for starcraft "e-sports" coming to fruition, and Blizzard is overstepping their bounds in trying to take control of everything related that is "e-sports."

Do they have the right to do that? Yes, they do in the sense that it is their game, and the intellectual property rights and other rights of the makers need to be respected.

But does that make it right to attempt to take 100% control of e-sports for themselves? No, it does not.

Blizzard knows and understands that they have complete say in what goes on from this moment on, but they are making a horrible decision, an arrogant one, to think that they themselves can re-create e-sports or more importantly, continue the further development of e-sports without Kespa's help.

Yes, Blizzard has signed deals with GOMTV, but all of these dealings and going ons where Kespa and Blizzard are confronting each other are only doing one thing - hurting and hindering the potential success of starcraft 2 as a professional sport.

These two entities need to work together, and learn to do it fast, before they end up fucking up the growth of e-sports. This means Kespa needs to own up and recognize that they do not own jack shit - it's blizzard's so they need to suck up their korean pride or whatever the hell it is and work with blizzard.

And Blizzard needs to suck it up and do the right thing and re-open negotiations with Kespa and work out something that is fair for both parties that will allow development of e-sports, rather than hinder it with all of this total control stuff that Blizzard is trying to do right now.

Blizzard seems to be arrogant enough now to think that this is "blizzard sports" and not "e-sports." Their new terms of service allowing only them total control of "e-sports" events and such shows that this is exactly the direction they are going.

No one fool yourself - blizzard right now is beginning the process of hindering e-sports development internationally, not progressing it.

Here is an anecdote/analogy, whatever you want to call it (excuse any minor inaccuracies, it is the core of the anecdote that matters).

In the early days of the United States when it was first being formed, the constitution was set up, the war with Britain had ended, and George Washington was triumphant for the new colonies. And what were some people saying and wanting?

They wanted George Washington to be "King" or the new ruler of the United States. George Washington at that moment can potentially become very powerful, being the new King, a ruler.

He decline. Why? Because it was the right thing to do. If he became a king or that type of ruler, he would be undermining the entire United States constitution and the principles that the United States were being founded on.

Blizzard can right now choose to hinder e-sports and make it "blizzard e-sports" or they can work with Kespa, and GOMTV, and be one of the co-founders of e-sports, and make the success of e-sports more likely.

Or they can continue down the road they are going right now.
Just some thoughts.




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Sup
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
May 29 2010 20:12 GMT
#2
I don't agree with every detail, but very much with the general line of thought.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
May 29 2010 20:32 GMT
#3
I think that Blizzard has probably thought of everything you said here and probably tried over and over to form agreements and compromises, and that Kespa was simply unwilling to budge an inch. What we're seeing here is the mom yelling at and maybe smacking her kid who won't behave in the store, having missed seeing her be very patient trying to calm her kid down for the previous twenty minutes. Unwieldy Kespa has probably played the role of that brat kid and now mother blizzard is giving it a smack in the side of the head.
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 29 2010 20:34 GMT
#4
On May 30 2010 05:32 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I think that Blizzard has probably thought of everything you said here and probably tried over and over to form agreements and compromises, and that Kespa was simply unwilling to budge an inch. What we're seeing here is the mom yelling at and maybe smacking her kid who won't behave in the store, having missed seeing her be very patient trying to calm her kid down for the previous twenty minutes. Unwieldy Kespa has probably played the role of that brat kid and now mother blizzard is giving it a smack in the side of the head.


yah, too much korean pride? dunno. But it's entirely fucked up situation for everyone imo.
Sup
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10667 Posts
May 29 2010 21:00 GMT
#5
ummmm.........I don't know... GOM tv and blizzard with deal I think will be the beginning of SC2 pro gaming scene, don't worry =)

only bad thing is no chat channels or inter realm play but i'm sure hackers will fix that ^^
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IrT4nkz
Profile Joined May 2010
229 Posts
May 29 2010 22:20 GMT
#6
After reading the thread on the short history of ACTIVISION BLIZZARD, I can't help but think that all of this is done by CEO Robert Kotick.
Mickey
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2606 Posts
May 29 2010 22:47 GMT
#7
It all comes down to the money. I honestly feel the merger influenced these decisions to an extreme effect. Fuck Robert Kotnick!
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 29 2010 23:29 GMT
#8
Honestly, I think the idea that KeSPA owes Blizzard their lives is crap. The only thing KeSPA has ever done is make SC wildly popular and increase the loyalty of Blizzard's fanbase. Sure, they make great games, but lots of companies make great games. You still have to get lucky for someone to choose yours to become a hit.

Now Blizzard wants KeSPA to pay up? What a slap in the face.

ESPORTS isn't the most important thing in my life, so it doesn't affect me personally if Blizzard fucks everything up. I just feel sorry for a lot of people who have gone through tough years trying to make it what it is today. I feel like if Blizzard takes over, we can say good-bye to whatever legitimacy SC:BW had and say hello again to the days when randoms just played in tournaments without sponsored teams. Who knows? If I were KeSPA, I would just sell all the infrastructure to Blizzard and skedaddle, because it looks like they're gonna die either way.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8079 Posts
May 29 2010 23:49 GMT
#9
your US history is kinda off a bit but I appreciate the message behind it
I like starcraft
shurgen
Profile Joined October 2009
350 Posts
May 29 2010 23:58 GMT
#10
i agree like 95%.

Without Kespa/korean e-sports a significant portion of us here wouldn't be quite as loyal to blizzard in the first place.
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
May 30 2010 00:35 GMT
#11
On May 30 2010 05:32 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I think that Blizzard has probably thought of everything you said here and probably tried over and over to form agreements and compromises, and that Kespa was simply unwilling to budge an inch.

It just comes down to who you believe but from the list of blizzard's demands released by kespa I'd say they were probably the ones not willing to compromise.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 30 2010 02:05 GMT
#12
On May 30 2010 09:35 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2010 05:32 Nightmarjoo wrote:
I think that Blizzard has probably thought of everything you said here and probably tried over and over to form agreements and compromises, and that Kespa was simply unwilling to budge an inch.

It just comes down to who you believe but from the list of blizzard's demands released by kespa I'd say they were probably the ones not willing to compromise.


well, I am trying to make the point that regardless of who is right, regardless of which side are being little bitches, right now they are both being little bitches, and need to suck up their pride and work together.

I dun give a fuck "who is right" - I want e-sports to succeed like we all do
Sup
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