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wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 01:36:05
May 29 2010 01:32 GMT
#1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2032280010&bop=And&ActiveSearchResult=True&CompareItemList=10|83-227-241^83-227-241-TS,83-113-124^83-113-124-TS


Poll: Left or right?

Right (iBUYPOWER) (12)
 
57%

Left (Gateway) (9)
 
43%

21 total votes

Your vote: Left or right?

(Vote): Left (Gateway)
(Vote): Right (iBUYPOWER)






It seems to me that the one on the left has better traits overall... except for the graphics card. Do you think that this is bad enough of a failing point to warrant going with the right instead?

Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
May 29 2010 01:38 GMT
#2
If you aren't going to buy a video card for the intel go for the amd or it probably won't run sc2 at all
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 29 2010 01:38 GMT
#3
The thing says Integrated Video... which makes me think that it doesn't allow for a replacement card. That might explain why its built for Office use.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
May 29 2010 01:39 GMT
#4
Well what will you be using it for?

Seems like the iBUYPOWER is a better buy because you can actually run decent games such as... sc2 on it.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
May 29 2010 01:39 GMT
#5
On May 29 2010 10:38 wanderer wrote:
The thing says Integrated Video... which makes me think that it doesn't allow for a replacement card. That might explain why its built for Office use.


Well it has a PCI-e x16 expansion slot so I'm pretty sure it'd support a video card. I think it's funny that the office pc has 6GB RAM though, seems excessive.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 29 2010 01:40 GMT
#6
wanderer: you can replace it with a dedicated card, it just means the GPU it comes with is on the mobo.
Ursad0n
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States523 Posts
May 29 2010 01:40 GMT
#7
Build one yourself, its easy and for that money you could get a computer better than either one of those.
You make it sound like there's a correlation between what should happen and what actually happens. I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. I know it is for me.
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 29 2010 01:41 GMT
#8
The only real shortcoming that I can see between the left computer is the video card, or lack thereof.

The one on the right looks setup and ready to go, but the one on the left is better in almost every category... its just the video card.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
May 29 2010 01:43 GMT
#9
On May 29 2010 10:40 Ursad0n wrote:
Build one yourself, its easy and for that money you could get a computer better than either one of those.

Agreed. You can build better on this budget.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 29 2010 01:51 GMT
#10
But I don't know how! ":D
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Ursad0n
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States523 Posts
May 29 2010 02:10 GMT
#11
On May 29 2010 10:51 wanderer wrote:
But I don't know how! ":D

I just built mine with 0 knowledge, look at fragkrag's thread and the "ultimate computer build thread." They are both very helpful
You make it sound like there's a correlation between what should happen and what actually happens. I mean, life is chaotic and it's often unfair. I know it is for me.
SoManyDeadLings
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada255 Posts
May 29 2010 02:21 GMT
#12
You won't be able to play any games on the Integrated Intel Chipset, at least not on any decent settings.

On the other hand, the i3 + 6 GB of RAM beats the A II 250 + 4 GB any day.
wsrgry
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 29 2010 02:25 GMT
#13
If I bought a graphics card, say this one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125238&, which has the highest price rating on that newegg widget, would it work? The power supply is like 220W and I'm certain that the graphics card will require more than that.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
May 29 2010 02:43 GMT
#14
Give the money to charity imo.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
May 29 2010 03:10 GMT
#15
On May 29 2010 11:43 Saturnize wrote:
Give the money to charity imo.

That's like telling a person living in poverty to give his paycheck to the Red Cross.
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
Raydog
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States632 Posts
May 29 2010 03:50 GMT
#16
The one on the right IBUYPOWER has a radeon 5450, the other one has integrated graphics..

so if its for sc2 then the right i think would be better? forumers help me out on this one
Shew
wanderer
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States641 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-29 05:20:47
May 29 2010 05:20 GMT
#17
Bump for the sake of a more decisive answer to the question.

PS: gogo jaedong!
Fuck you, I have a degree in mathematics and I speak 12 languages. (I called the World Cup final in 2008 btw)
AyeH
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States534 Posts
May 29 2010 05:54 GMT
#18
oops i voted for the gateway on accident. i meant to vote for the ibuypower one.
Is it in you?
Zhek
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada342 Posts
May 29 2010 06:06 GMT
#19
iBUYPOWER, obviously. I'd rather have a ATI graphic card than an Intel.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 29 2010 06:22 GMT
#20
THESE COMPUTERS WILL NOT BE CAPABLE OF PLAYING MUCH OF ANYTHING.

go into one of the many build thread and ask for some help putting together your own comp.

its REALLY easy, all you do is connect like 5 components, if you can dress yourself, you can put together a computer...there is no soldering or hacking involved..lol

if you build your own it will be 3x better for the same cost.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
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