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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On May 25 2010 18:53 fishbowl wrote: Sitters aren't there to make your trip pleasant or unpleasant, they're there to make sure you don't break anything or hurt yourself. Of course that's what they are for. I never said anything to the contrary. I was merely pointing out that there are other dangers to be considered. | ||
RaGe
Belgium9947 Posts
On May 25 2010 13:46 SoManyDeadLings wrote: Those 3 hours were the worst of my life, I remember, with extremely vivid detail, about how my ex lied to his dad about taking a shower, about how her dad just sat there in front of the TV for an eternity, about how he FINALLY got up to use the washroom, and ultimately about my escape. Subconcious mindslip? | ||
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Skvid
Lithuania751 Posts
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WeSt
Portugal918 Posts
On May 25 2010 15:09 endy wrote: I tried x1, x5, x10 x20 extract, didn't feel anything. I heard some people are like "immune" to salvia. But I also heard that x40 is pretty strong shit, and your experience sounds awesome, so I'll probably give a try  Learn how to smoke before you waste the precious ska pastora There's no such thing as people being "immune" to salvia.As for the OP, nice you enjoyed your trip! I had pretty crazy ones too, involving super intelligent beings made of straws. Oh where they wise! | ||
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Pawsom
United States928 Posts
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meteorskunk
Canada546 Posts
I don't see any reason why if memories were coming back to you as vivid as reality why they shouldn't be just as if they had actually happened? I mean i know that memories are not completely accurate but they are usually pretty close. Also its sort of interesting for someone who believes in a subconscious to note how you called your girlfriend a guy a couple of times and also met her as the blue teletubbie...jus sayin | ||
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Skvid
Lithuania751 Posts
...guys i just realised something... we need to persuade day9 to smoke some of this so he can share his trips before his casts... oh man that would be awesome :| | ||
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meteorskunk
Canada546 Posts
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
alas, day9 will not do any drugs :c | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On May 25 2010 20:53 RaGe wrote: Nice read. Should post it up on erowid too. Subconcious mindslip? That and the fact that he imagined the blue Teletubby as his ex-girlfriend. Gay suspicion building... | ||
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LeperKahn
Romania1845 Posts
On May 26 2010 00:56 TheAntZ wrote: if day9 even just had some weed, that would make the cast 100x more hilarious, and seeing as its already so fucking good, that would probably kill anyone who watched it with sheer awesomeness alas, day9 will not do any drugs :c Wat I don't believe it. Day[9] looks so high for all of his casts. I just assumed he kept a bong right off camera or something. | ||
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Angel[BTL]
Romania345 Posts
I am awestruck by how many dismiss these experiences as nothing more than imagination. Until you experience them for yourself you're a believer or a disbeliever. The impact of the experience is so profound that you are and feel enlightened. I'm sure that if you were somehow stuck in a dream (like in a coma) you wouldn't be able to tell the difference from the real world. In dream time you can experience the same response as in physical world - you can smell, touch, breath, hear and see as well. Then how can you tell the difference? You judge the experience only because when you're here you relate you're experience with the physical one. If you're in dream time try to relate you're experience from the physical within the dream. Obviously it is much more difficult because you will be able to do this once you become conscious in dreaming. Just like if you wanted to reach B rank on iccup you need to train a lot that's why if you want to become an active participant in this awesome experience aforementioned you need to train. Open minded skepticism is key element here. Skepticism alone will drag you down. Be open minded and you'll see a whole new world opening before your eyes. | ||
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Lefnui
United States753 Posts
On May 26 2010 22:56 Angel[BTL] wrote: Then how can you tell the difference? Easy, you apply logic. You ask yourself "Was I high during that period of time? Was I asleep? Did I go way too long without eating?" | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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Angel[BTL]
Romania345 Posts
On May 27 2010 05:18 Lefnui wrote: Easy, you apply logic. You ask yourself "Was I high during that period of time? Was I asleep? Did I go way too long without eating?" Yes but it goes back to what I said about judging the experience only when you are here in the physical. Try to ask yourself these questions in your dream and see what you come up with. And that's is if you can have enough lucidity to ask yourself these questions. | ||
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Kim_Hyun_Han
706 Posts
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SoManyDeadLings
Canada255 Posts
On May 27 2010 19:21 Angel[BTL] wrote: Yes but it goes back to what I said about judging the experience only when you are here in the physical. Try to ask yourself these questions in your dream and see what you come up with. And that's is if you can have enough lucidity to ask yourself these questions. When you're tripping on Salvia (enough to cause hallucinations, not just altered perceptions), you won't be self-aware at all. It honestly hits you like a train and puts you out for a good half hour or so, I'm just amazed that the memories are somehow preserved when you become lucid. | ||
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Angel[BTL]
Romania345 Posts
On May 27 2010 21:28 SoManyDeadLings wrote: When you're tripping on Salvia (enough to cause hallucinations, not just altered perceptions), you won't be self-aware at all. It honestly hits you like a train and puts you out for a good half hour or so, I'm just amazed that the memories are somehow preserved when you become lucid. Yes because the impact of salvia is like extracting your teeth without anesthetic . It slams you in the face with the greater reality. You don't have much control. But I was saying the above in the context of learning to meditate or lucid dream in a slow process which is a lot different than what you've experienced. You can stop at any time if you feel frightened which is not the case when you're taking these kind of hallucinogenic plants. In your case the experience is so powerful that your mind can still remember a great part of what happened. That's why the shaman was needed in older times. He was there to prepare the ones who were taking plants to know beforehand some things about what was about to be experienced. It was a process and not all we're ready to take the test. The shaman had the knowledge and discernment to see if the student was able to handle the experience. Nowadays we don't have someone to tell us what to do . I would recommend you to read Terrence Mckenna who experimented with different hallucinogenic plants. Also you can take a look at the research on DMT. | ||
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XinRan
United States530 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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