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Since it's not out of the question to make a nice sum with a lucky prediction, many people believe just by being a little smarter with their picks they could have done very well. Maybe a little help could push them in the right direction?
Either way even if this is legit, and that's a huge if, it will be rather grindy, since you will most prob. be betting on favorites/laying outsiders a lot, and if you are not a gamblin' man your nerves will be on edge constantly. It's not so much a scam as a straightforward "I am asking you to bet your money. For me. If you win I win. If you lose, I lose nothing." If he makes some awesome predictions you might make something, I dunno, but for things like sports betting unless he's some kind of proven expert (who would just shut up and bet his own money anyway without making ads and stuff) I would say probably his guess is no better than yours. Maybe he did some amount of homework, but maybe he just picked a random game with a clear favorite.
As an aside perhaps he is telling 25% of the others to bet on the outsider and go on from there, so he'll have people to work with either way.
PS: Don't be surprised if he turns out to be 'right' and his prediction comes true, 1/4 odds is like, pretty obscenely clear that someone is gonna be raped. Roddick was like 3/1-ish to beat Murray last year, although that was the result of patriotism and a whole lotta hype. I still regret not putting money on that, having watched a lot of his games. Still, the risk is always there.
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On May 10 2010 21:19 Reason wrote:
Anyone ever seen anything like this?
I was looking on a website for work (I'm unemployed + seeking) and I though it was an add for bookmaker wanted someone who understood odds etc... anyway I emailed them and received this reply... is this a scam ?
Hi and many thanks for your reply to my advert.
The first point i would like to make is that these opportunities are 100% genuine and 100% secure-you will not be spammed or scammed in any way
I only read this far and I'm 99% sure it's a scam.
Alright, I read the rest. There are probably ways to make this work, but there's an information asymmetry. It's just too easy for him to freeroll you if you don't know what you're doing. I.e. you take all the risk and if it works out he gets his commission. If it doesn't he just says "sorry, it didn't work out this time".
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On May 10 2010 22:46 vGl-CoW wrote:
even if he's not trying to scam you (which he is, he's just letting you take risks with your money and mooching off the profits if it happens to work out), he's obviously a completely untrustworthy sleazebag because the job itself consists of scamming betting companies
Um, no, taking advantage of promotions to make money legally but against the intentions of the bookmaker is not scamming. It's called "bonus whoring". Bookmakers and poker sites hate it but it's perfectly legal. It's usually not worth the effort though.
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As hypercube said, it's bonus whoring. An individual can make a little EV by exploiting the bonuses a betting site offers but because it's a lot of work finding them and working out the ideal way of playing them it's not worth doing. What this guy is doing is basically getting a group of people to act as his proxies, he finds a good bonus and then his horde of minions multiply it into a respectable profit. For him that is, because he's taking 1/6th of the profit thousands of you make. You'll probably do a little better than break even but it won't be worth your time.
You're better off setting up a sc2 training school in Arizona for an undisclosed fee.
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details = bad
This is ridiculous..
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Yeah this is a scam. If his predictions are so amazing, why isn't he doing the betting himself?
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On May 10 2010 22:54 Reason wrote:
what's all this "for rela" business, did I miss a meme or something?
Ask chill
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Belgium8305 Posts
On May 10 2010 23:40 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2010 22:46 vGl-CoW wrote:
even if he's not trying to scam you (which he is, he's just letting you take risks with your money and mooching off the profits if it happens to work out), he's obviously a completely untrustworthy sleazebag because the job itself consists of scamming betting companies Um, no, taking advantage of promotions to make money legally but against the intentions of the bookmaker is not scamming. It's called "bonus whoring". Bookmakers and poker sites hate it but it's perfectly legal. It's usually not worth the effort though.
yeah i know it's legal and you're right, 'scamming' probably wasn't the right word. it's still completely gay and says a lot about the guy though (especially the way he's letting others do it for him)
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On May 10 2010 23:50 starfries wrote:
Yeah this is a scam. If his predictions are so amazing, why isn't he doing the betting himself?
Well I was thinking some bookies refuse bets if they don't like the look of you... something happened here recently some incredibly posh looking gentlemen tried to place a bet for like 4k for the exact date of a wedding of somebody in the royal family and was turned away because he was suspected to have insider information... also I think if you win all the time or the bookies catch on to what you are doing they just bar you/refuse to take your bets?
So if this guy is for real he probably needs mass anonymous people putting on small bets so the bookies don't know who is who instead of this same guy coming in every week always winning like hi I'l like to put 15k on this and 20k on that etc etc they'd be like fuck off we remember you from last week, and last week, and last week etc
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On May 11 2010 00:01 vGl-CoW wrote:it's still completely gay and says a lot about the guy though (especially the way he's letting others do it for him)
I don't know, sounds fair game to me. I wouldn't trust someone less for doing this. It's only gay because it takes so much time for little reward. Actually, I'd probably do it myself if it was possible to scale it up.
Anyway, this guy is a scammer obviously. You can't even do this with zero risk, unless you have accounts on multiple sites and use your bonus money to cover all outcomes.
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Thanks a lot for all responses, if anyone has anything further to add feel free.
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"For Rela" instantly came up in my mind, it would work so well for this situation. Wouldve got me grinning.
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On May 10 2010 23:47 KwarK wrote:
You're better off setting up a sc2 training school in Arizona for an undisclosed fee.
Hahaha.
But yeah dude, I wouldn't trust something like this. It's not worth it, honestly.
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Just do KGB, its legit and pretty easy and probably one of the only things on the internet that aren't a scam.
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On May 10 2010 21:19 Reason wrote:
Hi and many thanks for your reply to my advert.
The first point i would like to make is that these opportunities are 100% genuine and 100% secure-you will not be spammed or scammed in any way - neither will you be asked for any monies "up-front" although i do charge a commission of £10 for every £60 profit that you make(paid in arrears).
What i do is provide instructions/training enabling my agents to take money off the bookmakers each and every day-absolutely "risk-free" by playing them off against each other and taking advantage of the offers available.You can use it just to generate some spending money or come and work with me on an on-going basis-full support will be provided and no experience is required.
We start with the opening account offers and then move onto the on-going promotions that allow us to release monies for "free".
hmmmm already seems fishy after 100% genuine was used IMO but look at that shit!
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If one could check if it is his real phone number right there. I am not writing this off as a scam immediately (oh you untrusting humans) unlike what all of you are saying. Unfortunately, it could be one.
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he uses the word free way too often
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