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Shade692003
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada702 Posts
May 02 2010 20:46 GMT
#41
Titan's Quest's sequel? Ironlore shut downed not very long after TQ no?
I hate the post below mine because it feels War3-ish.
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
May 02 2010 20:49 GMT
#42
Great post, very informative.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8148 Posts
May 02 2010 20:51 GMT
#43
great post man, I feel your pain :\
Free Palestine
IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
May 02 2010 20:53 GMT
#44
On May 03 2010 05:46 Shade692003 wrote:
Titan's Quest's sequel? Ironlore shut downed not very long after TQ no?


They reformed and have another game coming out in the future that is supposedly very similar to TQ. I forget what it was called.
Censured
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1061 Posts
May 02 2010 20:53 GMT
#45
Good read, agree with most of parts... SC2 sounds are really terrible, I didn't know that blizzard is not working on unit sounds anymore. Makes me a sad panda
Occupation: Legend
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
May 02 2010 20:57 GMT
#46
excellent post 5/5
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
May 02 2010 20:57 GMT
#47
I havent started reading but i agree with you i dont like sc2... but i dont think its terrible.

Alright on to reading now.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 02 2010 20:57 GMT
#48
Critics of SC2 critics will likely pounce on your gameplay and audio criticisms as they've been raised many times. Still, better to address them than not, though they most likely won't be fixed. Your discussion of SC2's modding issues was very educational, and your voice acting samples were pretty impressive as well. The first clip was really reminiscent of good 'ole BW Protoss voices.

Hopefully you find a more robust modding community. Perhaps excellent 3rd-party tools will be developed for SC2.

If I were you I'd finish the novel, though. Theoretically the writer has absolute control over his manuscript, especially if you have no intention to publish (as I seem to recall was the case.)
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
May 02 2010 20:58 GMT
#49
I clicked on this expecting another one paragraph whine post by some nobody idiot. Instead I was really surprised to see an in depth and well thought out points with several really good points that you brought up. I haven't read through the whole thing yet, but I wanted to comment for now saying how well you expressed yourself.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
May 02 2010 21:02 GMT
#50
this blog post should be in the spotlight it's that good.
Olorin.SVK
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia136 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 21:05:01
May 02 2010 21:02 GMT
#51
Some very good points (colossus, vulture, voices) and nice read altogether. Personally I dont think about the modding as something that should be in the spotlight but I can see how it can bring new great things to a game. Also it gives you better, out of the box point of view on the game, which we average players dont have. GL in getting some of your ideas across to blizz.

Edit: Also, I dont think that SC2 is terrible, but I definetly think is not as good as it could be. But hey, we are getting 2 datadiscs in the future...
IskatuMesk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada969 Posts
May 02 2010 21:02 GMT
#52
On May 03 2010 05:57 EchOne wrote:
If I were you I'd finish the novel, though. Theoretically the writer has absolute control over his manuscript, especially if you have no intention to publish (as I seem to recall was the case.)


If I could focus on writing I wouldn't be worried about modding.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
May 02 2010 21:02 GMT
#53
yeah I guess. but there's alot about sc2 in general in here too not just modding.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
May 02 2010 21:10 GMT
#54
I 100% agree with this of what you said ->

"The reluctance of change.

Browder is a great man at PR but I've yet to see any indication of him being any good at game design. Although he boasts the willingness to add and remove units at a whim, we get answers like this -

Q: With the large discussion on Zerg changes, is there any planned? Or do you believe that they're not being used fully?
A: We are looking at changes to the Corruptor. We are looking at the balance on Ultralisk and Infestor. We are not planning to introduce new units at this time, though we shall see as Beta progresses. =)


While this is indeed a beta, as I well know, it seems to me that Blizzard from the start has been unwilling to make change where change is necessary. They have insisted to keep the Mothership in the game from the very beginning - doing absolutely everything in their power to keep this unit in multiplayer where it does not belong. This tells me that Blizzard is, in fact, unwilling to make change."

Pretty much QFT. Browder talks the talk, but never have I ever seen him willing to do as he says. Easiest example is not removing the mothership, and the hard counter system. IT's a command and conquer counter system, not a starcraft 2 counter system
Sup
HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
May 02 2010 21:16 GMT
#55
great post! i loved your voice actingg.. its way better than the current voice actors in sc2
Long live BroodWar!
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3420 Posts
May 02 2010 21:18 GMT
#56
I rarely post on TL but this time I must do so and tell you: thank you!

thank you for a nice post, very well written and presented, and that gives a very interesting insight of a part of a community that isnt very known. But as a modder you bring up points that would have remained hidden to most players (including myself).

I read it all and I hope Blizzard will do the same.

Horang2 fan
jonnyp
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States415 Posts
May 02 2010 21:19 GMT
#57
I think that, whatever happens, you should blog more. And that was an amazing voice for the second clip lol.

5/5
The number of years it takes for the Internet to move past anything is way, way over 9000.
AngryAsian
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada68 Posts
May 02 2010 21:22 GMT
#58
i get so sick and tired of sc2, it has almost NOTHING good compared to sc1. sc1 is just so perfect, making sc2 was a business move rather trying to make the game better. nothing will get better with 3d engine. 2d fighter is still the best, 2d rts will always be the best.
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
May 02 2010 21:34 GMT
#59
On May 03 2010 06:22 AngryAsian wrote:
i get so sick and tired of sc2, it has almost NOTHING good compared to sc1. sc1 is just so perfect, making sc2 was a business move rather trying to make the game better. nothing will get better with 3d engine. 2d fighter is still the best, 2d rts will always be the best.

completely agreed
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-02 21:41:14
May 02 2010 21:40 GMT
#60
i was really hyped for SC2 all they way up until I got my beta in the first wave. i was the guy in every thread telling people to stop crying about how SC2 is different.

and now I have not touched my beta in almost 2 months. i don't even know why either..

i'm afraid to admit that i may not be enjoying the game, and now the thought of saving hundreds on not buying this trilogy is very tempting to me.

maybe if i switch races it will be better.

more on topic:

those VA vids were really cool, and i'd have to agree that the SC2 units lack a lot of personality.
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