EPTkorea! the dirty dirtay~ - Page 14
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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hp.Shell
United States2527 Posts
On June 25 2010 13:15 Djzapz wrote: Interesting... Whatever happened to having to go to war and pillaging towns to get laid with girls who don't really feel like it... That still happens, apparently. I hear about it happening in Afghanistan and Iraq sometimes, but when I hear about it it's usually the story of "some american soldier got caught raping so-and-so, so now we're arresting him" type of thing. That leads me to believe it's happening more than we're aware of. That said, I feel that the prostitution "business" isn't necessarily sexist when you consider that there are also similar "houses" for females to partake in. However, I believe these institutions are largely established either directly or indirectly by the male population that typically forms the leadership and ownership class of any given country. I realize that females are gaining popularity on that front, in terms of leading countries, but at present it is largely dominated by males, and therefore society is influenced by wealthymale desires. | ||
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diggurd
Norway346 Posts
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FindingPride
United States1001 Posts
im just pondering over that picture of savior and xellos... haha | ||
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Rainmaker5
United States1027 Posts
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bnanaPEEL
Canada138 Posts
On August 10 2010 04:19 Rainmaker5 wrote: 5/5 interesting read and Foucault gets banned at the end. It's like dinner and a show. Correction: It's like dinner and the show of a lifetime. Do any of you guys visiting Korea go to these places or just the clubs? | ||
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DreamScaR
Canada2127 Posts
On August 10 2010 04:19 Rainmaker5 wrote: 5/5 interesting read and Foucault gets banned at the end. It's like dinner and a show. | ||
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TheGreatWhiteHope_
United States335 Posts
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
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stafu
Australia1196 Posts
..even though I've experienced all this I'm not some big whoring freak. I have a girlfriend which I love and loves me and part of loving her means not ever letting her find out about what my job forces me to do sometimes. Good thing she doesn't read forums nor does she speak english hehe Best part. | ||
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Lucid90
Canada340 Posts
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JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Z3kk
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antlu65
United States13 Posts
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
Damn. | ||
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CagedMind
United States506 Posts
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ffswowsucks
Greece2298 Posts
On August 10 2010 17:07 CagedMind wrote: I find this thread a bit disturbing. I find this thread informative. | ||
MightyAtom
Korea (South)1897 Posts
Just some points on some key things in the thread... Korea is a very extreme culture, there is this side, where someone in Dancewithdevil's job and making 8k a month in korea is really the extreme case. A lot of what Dancewithdevil is accurate in what he writes, but there are very few Koreans who actually could confirm that all to the degree that he has written and yes, its quite accurate via the prices he quotes. Most Koreans who are not affluent will maybe go to an affluent night club 3 times in their life, if even that, and they will never get to step inside a 10pro or .5 place; never. The entry wage for someone at a great company like Samsung is only 2.1k a month. Of course this goes up some what, but if you are making 5k a month in Korea, you're pretty up there (taxes are extremely low), but most people will never make more that 2.6-3k a month, never. No aside from doctors, professionals, accountants and from wealthy families or chaebol executives or language school owners, the majority of Korean can't ever dream of making 8k a month. The average age of the regular clients at a real 10 pro room salon is about late 40's early 50's, cause its that damn expenses. Again, DancewiththeDevil is in a very unique situation. The only way that most of you visiting Korea will ever see the inside of one of these places is if Dancewiththedevil treats you with his clients or if Rekrul has pity on you or really likes you, personally I'll buy you some beers, lots of beer and soju ^^. In terms of the girls, for the lower end places, you'd be surprised how many are doing it because of the 'loan sharks' and how they are locked into it because they wanted to help their family. In Korea, we do not have a strong consumer lending system, easy to get credit cards and bank loans for homes in high resell areas, but these loans are based on short term payments and high % of deposits. Korea is like this, they don't have 20 year mortgages, while the taxes are low, there are a lot of 10-50k lump payments for housing deposits, cars, marriage costs. You can't believe how difficult it is to live in Korea if you are not affluent and your parents do not own their own house. If your parents were to make a single money mistake or someone was to have an illness in the family, the stress on your parents to provide for you is crazy as it is your parent's obligations to take care of the children until marriage (or else you won't be able to marry at our above your status). Now a lot of lower income families can't get access to the banks for large payment sums, its not like in the US where you borrow 10-20k, if they want to get out the shitter, they will likely borrow 100-200k in order to buy a property and try to flip it. So, they don't tell their kids they did this and if the investment is fucked, they start to borrow money between loan sharks to pay for the interest. Thus steps in the daughter who takes on a loan of her own and assists to pay off the loan on behalf of their family which nearly 100% done in secret from her parents. This is not an isolated case, and I know a lot of you will call bs on it, but I'd say, most native Koreans and American Koreans will have a narrow range of experience and honestly won't be able to confirm it, but is quite prevalent. I don't have statistics on it, but its spoken and confirmed enough for me to say so. Now the terms of the deal obviously are totally fucked, and so that's how it goes. And these girls will be working on all different levels. I work with casinos, a lot of casinos all across Asia from Macau, Singapore to Aus. One Korean executive of Walkerhill has a baby daughter and I say to him, congratulations and he says to me, 'you're so lucky you don't have a daughter' and I'm like 'what's wrong with a daughter, this is the modern time' and he's like, 'oh I know, that's not what I meant, I love her so much and that is the problem, I can't enjoy myself at these girly places now, all I can think about is my daughter and what these girls go through now, its completely destroyed my recreation' and I'm like, 'uh ok, I'll keep that in mind...' But when I'm in Korea, I don't tell people that I work with casinos or anything, I just say I work overseas or they know I was a consultant at PwC and left for a UK company. Because, again, this isn't the norm of a lot of Koreans and for the most part, someone at DancewiththeDevil position, this really is worked related, even at 8k a month, its not possible to do this every week. And its not something that many Korean men would mention openly and it's not like we are all sex fiends. Unless it's work related a lot of men need to pay for their kids afterschool tuition and most of their money is managed by their wife. NOT TO SAY THAT ITS NOT A THRIVING 24/7 THING. It is, but with 12 M population in Seoul, there can be this level of activity, but I'd say the majority of Korea guys like to simply get drunk with the guys. My normal night out with close friends back in university would be going for drinks from 7pm to 4 am then going to a man's only bathing house, go to the sauna and pass out in the sleep couch looking for mat with 100 other drunk snoring guys, then wake up at 10am take a sauna again and go to class. I understand LilSusie point as well, because DancewiththeDevil is so damn accurate and viseral in his descriptions and while some people will take it as just that is how Korea is. Well, its not, but it also is part of the extreme. Actually what is super uber popular is mountain trail hiking and even Seoul has tonnes of them and its super fun, for older people, but breath taking, but while a lot of people in Korea hike (I mean a lot, more than go to ama), it's again just a part of the Korean mentality of being part of nature while living in the most urban place in world and having to go back to your home town twice a year when nearly 45% of the entire population of Korea lives nearby Seoul, resulting in 15 hour road trips in a country smaller than Michigan. There is an old saying about Korea, Japan and China, in a comparison about the character. In China, people are ONE, one group, one people regardless of differences; In Japan: harmony, we live on a freaking small island, and we are bound by our land's own boarders most of the time, lets make the best of it: and in Korea: Extreme, extremely kind/angry, honest/deceitful, pure/sexual and always emotional and always lots of fun, if we're friends ^^ Again, a lot of people will say, Korea is the same like everywhere else, but I'll say, when your people are defined by the trait, extreme, trust me, it really is like that, you'll have these sexual options and sexy kittens running around catching the same bus as attractive 30 year old Christian virgin ladies still waiting for the right guy to marry. Cheers. | ||
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theobsessed1
United States576 Posts
i cant believe this was bumped, mad props to whoever initially bumped it and foucault definitely made this thread more interesting to read. lols. bleh i wanna go back to korea even more now. i keep finding reasons to go back there but never a reason why i wouldnt wanna go back. T_T i need moneyyyyyyyy | ||
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