ADD?

On April 25 2010 11:57 Sadistx wrote:
I think half the kids diagnosed with ADD don't actually have it, because some doctors are total quacks, way overeager to prescribe some pills to a 10 year old.

What do you mean by "fair"? If you actually need it then you take it.

On April 25 2010 11:52 Ursad0n wrote:
Okay we all know what ADD is (i hope)

On April 25 2010 12:17 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
What bothers me, but I use the term fairly loosely here... Is that people who are prescribed Adderall or other medications are done so to "normalize" them, so to speak. What about people who are on the higher end of the "normal" spectrum but don't qualify for ADD, or rather aren't prescribed medication? Now, the people who have been prescribed medication have an advantage, not just an even field.

I suppose, what I'm saying, is that working through a disadvantage is commendable; whereas being given an advantage is not. In other games there is often discussion about how using drugs such as these is ridiculously shunned, as it should be. Hell, even as a college student when I know people who use them to write papers or study tests it bothers me a little bit. Some things in live are meant to be challenging or time consuming.

On April 25 2010 12:06 dethrawr wrote:


The first part is correct, but the problem is (as I've been told by professionals in medical fields in Australia) that if doctors refuse to diagnose and medicate for ADD, and the kid has a fit or has a terrible physical accident somehow, parents can sue the doctor for malpractice.

They are actually covering their own asses to a certain extent.

I tend to think that ADD is a non-issue really, most of the time it is just kids acting out because of bad parenting/neglect or other issues, and ADD gets the blame as a scapegoat.

Also, these drugs should never be taken for progaming. It is clearly unfair unless everyone can take them, and I think it defeats the purpose of gaming because its really not the person whos winning necessarily, its the chemicals. Same sort of principles as apply in olympics with steroids etc.

On April 25 2010 13:02 d_so wrote:


a fit from ADD? Please. you're more likely to get a fit from the medication. what most ADD kids needs are parents, not drugs

On April 25 2010 13:12 sLiniss wrote:
Too many kids are diagnosed with ADD these days. It's easy for doctors to prescribe it. I've read articles that some doctors even get more money if they prescribe ADD pills (probably not likely).

On April 25 2010 13:12 micronesia wrote:

While you are probably right that a fair percentage of children diagnosed with ADD don't really have a biological problem, what evidence do you have to state so certainly that most ADD diagnosed kids don't need medication? Do you claim kids who legitimately have ADD can be virtually cured or the problem can be worked around through effective parenting?

On April 25 2010 13:22 micronesia wrote:

When were kids properly diagnosed with ADD? When did it become too much? How do you actually know this? So much stuff said about ADD seems to be the complete spread of uninformed misinformation which kinda bugs me.

On April 25 2010 13:47 d_so wrote:


http://www.news-medical.net/news/2008/01/23/34668.aspx

though rare, it is possible opinions espoused on the internet are actually well-informed ones. it might behoove you to actually do your own research if you really want to learn up on the topic, not just question the origins of others' opinions

On April 25 2010 14:16 micronesia wrote:

Well-informed opinions like "what most ADD kids needs are parents, not drugs"? You suggest that I research this instead of question others... but my questioning is what eventually drew some useful information into this conversation. I don't actually disagree with you though.

On April 25 2010 14:42 omninmo wrote:
ADD is nothing other than an excuse to sell speed to your maladjusted children.

Sorry to hurt your feelings but this "disorder" is just that and nothing more.

I am a teacher and parents are always calling "just to let me know" that their son has ADD and to ask if they "act up in class".

Usually it is the brightest kids in the class who far more intelligent than their peers but because of this are stifled and thus restless, fussy, and prone to distraction.

Growing up we always made pill-popping jokes about my younger cousin who was "diagnosed" with ADD and was therefore fed amphetamine salts (generic name for adderal) his entire young life. He turned out alright but the amphetamine merely white-washed his symptoms and made him speak twice as fast as other kids.


As far as the topic at hand is concerned.

How are you gonna monitor players and what they consume. Is RedBull disallowed as well? Coffee? Green Tea? Calisthenics before a match to get your pumped?

On April 25 2010 16:41 Emon_ wrote:
A recent study showed that children with ADD could improve their condition by playing video games where they resisted their impulses. This was said to have the same effect on the brain as prescription medicine. Perhaps this can lead to a decrease in medicine consumption long term.

As for the gaming perspective - there are plenty of ways to gain an advantage. Simply drinking coffee (or taking caffeine pills) is the most obvious one and will make you much more eager to win, though the overall quality of your play will diminish. A simple thing such as exercising regularly and working out can help your brain and body function better and indirectly effect your gameplay. I've tried both and exercise is way better. I'm fine with people taking whatever they want to gain an advantage in SC. At the end of the day it's a too complex game for the winner to be decided by one factor.

On April 25 2010 17:02 Ursad0n wrote:
Because with pretty much every mental disorder if you believe you can overcome it and you try to, then u can usually overcome it.

On April 25 2010 17:02 Ursad0n wrote:
Because with pretty much every mental disorder if you believe you can overcome it and you try to, then u can usually overcome it.

On April 25 2010 19:11 Divinek wrote:



okay, lets list some mental disorders

post traumatic stress disorder, manic depression, schizophrenia, anorexia, insomnia, dyspareunia (pain during sex), tourettes, dissociative identity disorder, substance dependence,amnesia, dementia,
etc etc

do you really think that for all of these that if most of these people believe they can overcome them and try to, they will succeed? And that this hasn't been tried before and failed in most cases?
Reeeally gotta learn what you're talking about before you make generalizations like that. You might have a case for ADD but yeah, not every mental disorder.

I gotta add more to that, like fuck have you personally gone through some of these things and 'overcome' them by believing in yourself or something? you sir must be a hero

I'm just speaking from experience of knowing people that have to struggle with mental disorders everyday and it's attitudes like this that shit all over everything they're trying to accomplish.