• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:02
CEST 09:02
KST 16:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon100Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)9
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 542 The Ascended Mutation # 541 Binary Choice
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder Working 1v1, 2v2, 3v3 Ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot Syncronization issues and can't find games BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro16 Group D [BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group C
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Post Your Watch!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8468 users

Brief Survey Request/Criticism

Blogs > samachking
Post a Reply
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 18 2010 19:18 GMT
#1
I am working on a research project assigned to us by one of our teachers. We were asked to do some basic scientific research in the medical/health sciences through the use of a survey. It's mainly busy work and the subject itself is basically busywork.

I am doing a survey on Environmental Factors that will lead to Smoking recreational drugs and the Continuation of their use. I will look at a couple of factors and correlate them between smoking and non smoking groups. I basically used the non smoking group as a control and the smoking group as the main target of the study. However, the main problem with that is the fact that our sample of smokers is ridiculously small due to the nature of the university, we have plenty of non smokers in our study so far and a small percentage of smokers which is no good for a proper statistical study. And I would love if people on TL would please out and fill out the survey which will not take up a lot of your time. It's basically a brief data based survey(a horrible one at that) that will only take up 2-4 minutes of your time. Here is the link:

Anonymous Smoking Survey

I do realize that the methodology and distribution of this survey is basically flawed- it's online only.
The questions are horrible, especially:
The first question which lumps many kinds of recreational drugs into one group. Whereas each group is generally different, marijuana smokers are a different demographic than tobacco smokers who start up in different ways.
The socioeconomic and family views questions on the survey are terribly vague and pretty general( wont do much in a data based survey). There are many other flaws that were criticized by one of the psych prof in our university.

But I do hope you people can help with filling out the survey. And I do realize that this might be against the site rules but I would love a bit of TL manpower. And if this works out I have a pretty good project/post that will come up.

Thank you.

tl;dr I am doing a survey on smoking recreational drugs and I hope you can fill it out.

"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2762 Posts
April 18 2010 19:28 GMT
#2
Lol, grouping cigarettes and marihuana into one.. gl!
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 19:36:15
April 18 2010 19:33 GMT
#3
On April 19 2010 04:28 Navane wrote:
Lol, grouping cigarettes and marihuana into one.. gl!


Thanks, I know that was pretty dumb. But at the time it didn't seem to be that dumb. The groups who tend to smoke pot here(middle east) tend to start up from cigarettes. And I had to start somewhere with the survey I suppose, the problem is where to stop, do you stop at tobacco cigarettes or do you encompass all neurodrugs(where you are pretty much including every single person in this planet). But yeah that is dumb.

In hindsight smoking was a really arbitrary and stupid thing to pick, as it is the chemicals and not the method of ingestion that really affects the people, but again it's the most popular form that people use(other than drinking coffee ofc).
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
April 18 2010 19:36 GMT
#4
Survey completed.

The questions were very generalized.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
April 18 2010 19:43 GMT
#5
ya dude, those questions are far too generic. But I'ma heavy smoker, and I filled it out.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11601 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 19:45:35
April 18 2010 19:45 GMT
#6
done. ez pz.

god i think i should quit smoking rofl but i just bought a carton...................
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 18 2010 19:53 GMT
#7
Putting pot in with tobacco really fucks with the survey imo. They are 2 completely different things.
I am trying to fill out the survey, but what do you mean by environment near the end of the survey? I'm not sure how to answer those 2 questions.
k20a
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada412 Posts
April 18 2010 19:57 GMT
#8
Grown up in a smoking environment, i.e; parents smoke at home when you're young etc.... at least that's how I interpreted it.
"It's like that one time Luke Skywalker threw the ring in to Mordor to kill Hitler, or something" - Tasteless
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 20:05:57
April 18 2010 20:00 GMT
#9
On April 19 2010 04:57 k20a wrote:
Grown up in a smoking environment, i.e; parents smoke at home when you're young etc.... at least that's how I interpreted it.

ya, that seems reasonable, but what about current environment? Does me smoking pot count as living in a smoking environment? or do others around me also have to be smoking for that to count?
edit: also if the smoking is occurring outside does that count as living in a smoking environment? Are we talking about a physical environment or a social environment?
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
April 18 2010 20:08 GMT
#10
On April 19 2010 04:53 Mastermind wrote:
Putting pot in with tobacco really fucks with the survey imo. They are 2 completely different things.
I am trying to fill out the survey, but what do you mean by environment near the end of the survey? I'm not sure how to answer those 2 questions.


By environment, I mean for example: is your high school/neighborhood filled with smokers, or is there plenty of second hand smoking in your household environment and family gatherings and what not. Well it's your environment if it has an effect on you, which is just as vague as the question itself. I would say it's both physical and social in some way.

I agree with them being separated ruining the survey, but generally where I come from pot doesn't come by as easily as cigarettes, and most of the people who do pot started from cigarettes. It is quite different in different countries, but when I was doing the survey I messed that part up and I guess I cant do much about it now.

As for the questions being too generalized criticism, I agree with that completely, however, It makes data gathering much easier and easier to correlate( this isn't that proper of a study). And there is a spectrum of vagueness or tl;drness that you want to avoid when going with specific questions such as psychological factors and what not. I could collect a survey on smokers only and I probably should have.

Thanks for the criticism so far
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
April 18 2010 20:12 GMT
#11
I smoke neither.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
April 18 2010 20:13 GMT
#12
Ya, it is much different where I live. Here in Canada most young people smoke pot, but do not smoke cigarettes. If someone young(under 30) smokes cigarettes then you can guarantee they smoke pot, but not the other way around, which is probably the opposite of what you are use to in Bahrain.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24799 Posts
April 18 2010 20:36 GMT
#13
I don't think grouping cigs/weed/etc together is that unreasonable.... there are most likely similarities between what leads people to smoke cigs with what leads them to smoke other things the same way I don't use either of them.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Korynne
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada990 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 21:09:37
April 18 2010 21:07 GMT
#14
I don't know if you took this into consideration, but you should be careful with the age/education thing.

My current education level is not the same as the education level I will have in 10 years. I'm in undergrad at the moment, which isn't too bad, but if you have someone answering your survey that is in middle school and they check the Elementary School box, they are very different from people who say, due to wars or gender inequality etc. were not able to complete any education after elementary school.

So basically just saying be careful with how you use the education data in your survey (as in you should probably not include people who are currently completing the highest possible level of education possible for their age group when looking at the effects of education on smoking).

Just a chart (Assuming normal education patterns in North America and not years skipped or repeated):
12 and 15:
Unusable because they could be in middle school so their highest level of completed education would be elementary school.
16-18:
So people should definitely be in high school (what you put as secondary school) so if someone answers elementary school you can use that data because they stopped pursuing an education.
19-22:
19 year olds can still be in their last year of high school, so again, if they said elementary school you can include them, but "normal" people could still be in high school.
23-28:
Anyone who has only completed elementary or middle school can be used. There are many 5 or more year programs (I'm in co-op so it's 5 years) so people can be 23 and still in undergrad. So if someone says elementary school or middle school, then they are usable data.
29-40:
This age group shouldn't be a problem, most master's are only 2 years or so, so data from this age group should be completely valid.
41+:
Same as above.


So if I were you, I would probably rephrase that question as, if you have stopped pursuing an education, what is the last level of education you completed.

Also, wondering why you picked the specific ranges for age group and age started smoking.

Edit:
You should probably also use years of education instead of elementary middle and secondary, just to cover any cases where schooling systems are different. (I know in Quebec they sometimes have a 13th year before University)
Also consider whether you want to differentiate between a "real" undergrad of 4 years compared to a 2 year degree. xD
TL Mawfyah~ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Pyro.699
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 21:51:01
April 18 2010 21:50 GMT
#15
No 19 option for start age. :o
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-19 04:38:51
April 19 2010 04:26 GMT
#16
Thanks for all the responses/criticisms guys.

Yeah I actually edited 19 in a while ago but it did not register. Welcome to TL Pyro699

Yes Koynee I agree with your criticisms, but overall in a large enough sample anomalies won't matter as much. Undergrad degrees are messy too as they can take 3-5 to 5 years to complete, but I'm generalizing all of this in the study to make it easier to collect the data. I dont think the study is proper at all in the first place.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 1147
Horang2 1072
Leta 592
Barracks 440
PianO 177
Noble 13
League of Legends
JimRising 604
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr54
Other Games
summit1g14402
WinterStarcraft636
Livibee252
XaKoH 192
ViBE117
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream2935
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream441
Other Games
gamesdonequick433
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH380
• Adnapsc2 5
• Letter145
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2261
League of Legends
• Stunt429
Upcoming Events
GSL
3h 58m
Shopify Rebellion Sundays
7h 58m
Spirit vs Mixu
BSL
11h 58m
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
Replay Cast
16h 58m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 2h
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Light vs EffOrt
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.