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Well, I've been playing SC2 since around the 3rd opt-in invites and at first, I felt like I was having a lot of trouble with the game. Not only was I forced to use my brother's gear (my computer can barely run sc2 so I have to use his computer if I ever feel like playing competitively), but overall, the game felt much faster paced and I was just uncomfortable playing for the first couple of weeks. Now that the huge anticipation I had for SC2 has been satisfied (probably like 100 games or so), I decided to go back to BW.
My first game surprised the hell out of me. I had hit 242 APM with 190 EAPM which are numbers I've never been close to. My APM before usually ranges from 160-200 with EAPM at around 140-160 depending on the MU but an 80-40 rise in APM seems a bit ridiculous to me since I was stuck at the 160-200 range for the past year.
So anyways, I'm wondering has anyone else found a rise in their APM in BW after playing a bit of SC2?
Summary:My APM rose a hell of a lot after a couple weeks in SC2. What about you?
Poll: Has your APM risen in BW after playing enough of SC2?
(Vote): Yes
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any time i go back to bw after having played sc2 i am like 20 apm slower than usual
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it's probably increased because you can spend alot more time clicking things around since you dont need to change screens as much cause of mbs and automining and things, and if you're just able to spam click while using hotkeys without having to shift screens this will significantly increase your apm
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Much lower for me. My APM was around 180-220 depending on the matchup in BW, but it's like..110 or something when i watch replays of myself. I guess because a lot of my BW actions went into macroing an army, but it's extremely easy to do that in sc2 and takes way less actions so those actions are just gone.
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
much much lower. SC2 apm - 100
SC apm - 250
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ya my apm is like 500 now, THANKS STAERCRAFT 2 U ROCK LOL
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Pics or it didn't happen. Seriously, 190 EAPM? Doubtful.
I guess APM increase is possible after playing SC2 but I see no real reason for it to occur.
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oh yeah 190 eapm is pro level btw. i suggest u go to korea and practice with bisu
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United States11393 Posts
It feels really weird switching between the two because hotkeys are so easy to mix up ie hitting v for overlord in bw and then getting ovie capped because it never made. 
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i noticed mine was a bit higher too but my macro was a lot worse. So i guess sc2 makes me spam more.
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How much starcraft 2 have you been playing?
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My apm has increased from around 180-220 (not EAPM) in Bw, but I find it very difficult to play BW now because I am getting adjusted to everything in SC2.
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Not sure if my APM increased or not, but i notice I macro much better now but my micro seemed to get worse.
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On April 03 2010 11:00 Crunchums wrote:
any time i go back to bw after having played sc2 i am like 200 apm slower than usual
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SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80
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On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80
lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D
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konadora
Singapore66359 Posts
On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D
lol;;;
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On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D
I dont hink you're fit to be near technology. Better be safe and go play in traffic
OP: Maybe sc2 is just causing you to spam more. There is absolutely no need for more then like 100 apm in sc2 because there simply isnt very much to do, alos, since people now use less control groups (1-3 compared to 3-5+ in bw) this cuts down the apm pretty hard. Anyone who has above like 150 apm in sc2 is seriously spamming their little hearts out
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On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D
SC APM: 40
SC2 APM: Not in beta
I have been playing Pokémon lately...
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On April 03 2010 13:45 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80
lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D I dont hink you're fit to be near technology. Better be safe and go play in traffic OP: Maybe sc2 is just causing you to spam more. There is absolutely no need for more then like 100 apm in sc2 because there simply isnt very much to do, alos, since people now use less control groups (1-3 compared to 3-5+ in bw) this cuts down the apm pretty hard. Anyone who has above like 150 apm in sc2 is seriously spamming their little hearts out
Faced with this reality, I honestly do not see any way that anyone can possibly defend SC2 as a potentially competitive Esport. I mean come on guys, 100 APM? Let's be real here.
And don't give me this "it's just beta" crap. Is it honestly even remotely possible that patching and metagame evolutions will bring about a game that is even mechanically close to BW? Oh, wait, let me answer that for you...NOPE!
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On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D
I didn't lose a single game of SC2 went 5-0 in qualifiers then got bored and went back to BW.
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On April 03 2010 14:17 d(O.o)a wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80
lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D I didn't lose a single game of SC2 went 5-0 in qualifiers then got bored and went back to BW.
wat, can i play on our account? lol
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On April 03 2010 14:09 JadeFist wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2010 13:45 TheAntZ wrote:On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80
lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D I dont hink you're fit to be near technology. Better be safe and go play in traffic OP: Maybe sc2 is just causing you to spam more. There is absolutely no need for more then like 100 apm in sc2 because there simply isnt very much to do, alos, since people now use less control groups (1-3 compared to 3-5+ in bw) this cuts down the apm pretty hard. Anyone who has above like 150 apm in sc2 is seriously spamming their little hearts out Faced with this reality, I honestly do not see any way that anyone can possibly defend SC2 as a potentially competitive Esport. I mean come on guys, 100 APM? Let's be real here. And don't give me this "it's just beta" crap. Is it honestly even remotely possible that patching and metagame evolutions will bring about a game that is even mechanically close to BW? Oh, wait, let me answer that for you...NOPE!
Its POSSIBLE, definitely, to rule it out as impossible is pretty dumb. There may be yet undiscovered apm-sinks that differentiate the good players from the bad, maybe in the future the GOOD players will use hotkeys 1-0 to take micro to new heights, because if BW's greatest apm-sink really was macro, it would not be as demanding a game as it is. Lets face it, almost anyone can macro well if they put their mind to it. Its a combination of macroing and doing other shit to optimize your play that brings out the true skill requirements in sc, and as of yet, there is nothing like that in sc2 (nothing that requires a huge amount of multitasking)
keep in mind though, that a lot of that the current bw greats spend their apm on were not well known when bw first started off.
I say, give sc2 a chance to grow, if it turns out to not evolve and just stagnate, so that everyone could become 'good' or close to the best without a huge amount of work, then sure, it will fail.
But if that happens, we still have BW. When wc3 came out, a ton of players proclaimed the death of competitive bw. Many switched over. But yet here we are.
IF sc2 fails, we will always have bw to fall back on
IF it doesnt, we have another awesome game to play
WIN/WIN to me either way
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