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APM rising ever since playing SC2

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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 05:07:47
April 03 2010 01:59 GMT
#1
Well, I've been playing SC2 since around the 3rd opt-in invites and at first, I felt like I was having a lot of trouble with the game. Not only was I forced to use my brother's gear (my computer can barely run sc2 so I have to use his computer if I ever feel like playing competitively), but overall, the game felt much faster paced and I was just uncomfortable playing for the first couple of weeks. Now that the huge anticipation I had for SC2 has been satisfied (probably like 100 games or so), I decided to go back to BW.

My first game surprised the hell out of me. I had hit 242 APM with 190 EAPM which are numbers I've never been close to. My APM before usually ranges from 160-200 with EAPM at around 140-160 depending on the MU but an 80-40 rise in APM seems a bit ridiculous to me since I was stuck at the 160-200 range for the past year.

So anyways, I'm wondering has anyone else found a rise in their APM in BW after playing a bit of SC2?


Summary:My APM rose a hell of a lot after a couple weeks in SC2. What about you?

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Basically if you want to see an apm difference or a D level game lol.

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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
April 03 2010 02:00 GMT
#2
any time i go back to bw after having played sc2 i am like 20 apm slower than usual
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Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
April 03 2010 02:01 GMT
#3
it's probably increased because you can spend alot more time clicking things around since you dont need to change screens as much cause of mbs and automining and things, and if you're just able to spam click while using hotkeys without having to shift screens this will significantly increase your apm

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ketomai
Profile Joined June 2007
United States2789 Posts
April 03 2010 02:06 GMT
#4
Much lower for me. My APM was around 180-220 depending on the matchup in BW, but it's like..110 or something when i watch replays of myself. I guess because a lot of my BW actions went into macroing an army, but it's extremely easy to do that in sc2 and takes way less actions so those actions are just gone.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
April 03 2010 02:07 GMT
#5
much much lower. SC2 apm - 100
SC apm - 250
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lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
April 03 2010 02:09 GMT
#6
ya my apm is like 500 now, THANKS STAERCRAFT 2 U ROCK LOL
JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 02:12:36
April 03 2010 02:12 GMT
#7
Pics or it didn't happen. Seriously, 190 EAPM? Doubtful.

I guess APM increase is possible after playing SC2 but I see no real reason for it to occur.
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
April 03 2010 02:13 GMT
#8
No Key.. D:
Can you feel the rush?
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 02:17:17
April 03 2010 02:17 GMT
#9
oh yeah 190 eapm is pro level btw. i suggest u go to korea and practice with bisu
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
April 03 2010 02:18 GMT
#10
It feels really weird switching between the two because hotkeys are so easy to mix up ie hitting v for overlord in bw and then getting ovie capped because it never made.
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Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
April 03 2010 02:26 GMT
#11
i noticed mine was a bit higher too but my macro was a lot worse. So i guess sc2 makes me spam more.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 03 2010 02:31 GMT
#12
How much starcraft 2 have you been playing?
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 02:34:14
April 03 2010 02:33 GMT
#13
My apm has increased from around 180-220 (not EAPM) in Bw, but I find it very difficult to play BW now because I am getting adjusted to everything in SC2.
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Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States378 Posts
April 03 2010 02:47 GMT
#14
Not sure if my APM increased or not, but i notice I macro much better now but my micro seemed to get worse.
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
April 03 2010 03:23 GMT
#15
my apm went down.
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selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
April 03 2010 03:24 GMT
#16
On April 03 2010 11:00 Crunchums wrote:
any time i go back to bw after having played sc2 i am like 200 apm slower than usual

"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
April 03 2010 03:53 GMT
#17
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80
Hi.
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain353 Posts
April 03 2010 04:04 GMT
#18
On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80

lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66365 Posts
April 03 2010 04:16 GMT
#19
On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:
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On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80

lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D

lol;;;
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-03 04:48:27
April 03 2010 04:45 GMT
#20
On April 03 2010 13:04 SpaNiarD wrote:
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On April 03 2010 12:53 d(O.o)a wrote:
SC apm 120-150
SC2 apm 50-80

lol u noob. better start playing pokemon :D

I dont hink you're fit to be near technology. Better be safe and go play in traffic

OP: Maybe sc2 is just causing you to spam more. There is absolutely no need for more then like 100 apm in sc2 because there simply isnt very much to do, alos, since people now use less control groups (1-3 compared to 3-5+ in bw) this cuts down the apm pretty hard. Anyone who has above like 150 apm in sc2 is seriously spamming their little hearts out
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